Live essentials 2011

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Drew, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. Drew

    Drew Guest

    I am seeing a lot of problems here with certain aspects of Live 2011. Is it
    possible to just download maybe messenger 2011 and leave live mail as 2009?
    I use messenger quite a bit for video chat with family and was curious.

    T.i.a.

    Drew
     
    Drew, Oct 21, 2010
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  2. Drew

    Duane Hebert Guest

    Or is it possible to uninstall this update? My system ran it's auto updates, now I have a mail reader that looks like
    MS Word and can handle replies!

    If not, does anyone know how I can turn of this auto complete, this not adding > for content I'm replying to
    and to get rid of some of this toolbar crap (like why would I need a word count in a news post?)
    Unless they were around McGill
    where the roads are pretty wide and the traffic pretty tame.




    "Drew" wrote in message
    I am seeing a lot of problems here with certain aspects of Live 2011. Is it
    possible to just download maybe messenger 2011 and leave live mail as 2009?
    I use messenger quite a bit for video chat with family and was curious.

    T.i.a.

    Drew
     
    Duane Hebert, Oct 21, 2010
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  3. Drew

    Duane Hebert Guest

    Should read can't handle replies.
     
    Duane Hebert, Oct 21, 2010
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  4. Drew

    ...winston Guest

    No,
    Mix and match of two versions is not supported.


    ....winston
    msft mvp mail

    "Drew" wrote in message
    I am seeing a lot of problems here with certain aspects of Live 2011. Is it
    possible to just download maybe messenger 2011 and leave live mail as 2009?
    I use messenger quite a bit for video chat with family and was curious.

    T.i.a.

    Drew
     
    ...winston, Oct 21, 2010
    #4
  5. Drew

    ...winston Guest

    No,
    Mix and match of two versions is not supported.

    The ability to auto insert a '>' in front of previous responders text was
    removed from the product.

    The items on each Ribbon tab are not removable. The Ribbon can be mimized,
    and almost any item any ribbon tab can be added(icon only) to a Quick
    Access Toolbar.


    ....winston
    msft mvp mail

    "Drew" wrote in message
    I am seeing a lot of problems here with certain aspects of Live 2011. Is it
    possible to just download maybe messenger 2011 and leave live mail as 2009?
    I use messenger quite a bit for video chat with family and was curious.

    T.i.a.

    Drew
     
    ...winston, Oct 21, 2010
    #5
  6. Drew

    Duane Hebert Guest

    "...winston" wrote in message
    No,
    Mix and match of two versions is not supported.

    The ability to auto insert a '>' in front of previous responders text was
    removed from the product.


    Why would they do that?

    See how stupid it is?
     
    Duane Hebert, Oct 21, 2010
    #6
  7. Drew

    Magnus Guest

    If you're on Vista, you can uninstall live mail 2011, keep messenger 2011
    and use Windows Mail.
     
    Magnus, Oct 21, 2010
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  8. It seems that Microsoft is intent on killing off the usability of NNTP in favor of web-based forums.

    Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
    ------------------------------------------------------

    "Duane Hebert" wrote in message
    Why would they do that?

    See how stupid it is?
     
    Gary VanderMolen, Oct 21, 2010
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  9. Drew

    Duane Hebert Guest

    "Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
    MS is going to kill off using their product to access NNTP. I'll install something else.
    And of course, once people get used to other suppliers mail products, they'll start investigating
    their other products...
     
    Duane Hebert, Oct 21, 2010
    #9
  10. Drew

    ...winston Guest

    Its not nntp only..its also applies to Mail.

    Why....it wasn't working during the beta test..rather than fix it, the code
    was bypassed/removed to prevent complaints of it not working..thus a
    response to anyone complaining about the lack of that feature falls into
    the 'design intent' category....i.e..wysiwyg.

    ....winston

    "Duane Hebert" wrote in message

    "...winston" wrote in message

    No,
    Mix and match of two versions is not supported.

    The ability to auto insert a '>' in front of previous responders text was
    removed from the product.


    Why would they do that?

    See how stupid it is?
     
    ...winston, Oct 22, 2010
    #10
  11. Drew

    Duane Hebert Guest

    "...winston" wrote in message
    Its not nntp only..its also applies to Mail.

    So the idea is that I top post replies and the result is like this?



    Why....it wasn't working during the beta test..rather than fix it, the code
    was bypassed/removed to prevent complaints of it not working..thus a
    response to anyone complaining about the lack of that feature falls into
    the 'design intent' category....i.e..wysiwyg.

    ....winston

    "Duane Hebert" wrote in message

    "...winston" wrote in message

    No,
    Mix and match of two versions is not supported.

    The ability to auto insert a '>' in front of previous responders text was
    removed from the product.


    Why would they do that?

    See how stupid it is?
     
    Duane Hebert, Oct 22, 2010
    #11
  12. Drew

    ...winston Guest

    "Duane Hebert" wrote in message

    "...winston" wrote in message

    Its not nntp only..its also applies to Mail.

    So the idea is that I top post replies and the result is like this?



    ALT F/Options/Mail/<Advanced> tab
    - click 'Reply on Botttom of a message
     
    ...winston, Oct 22, 2010
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  13. “...response to anyone complaining about the lack of that feature falls into
    the 'design intent' categoryâ€

    .....or.. IMO it falls into the ‘too incompetent to fix it’ category. How hard could it have been to
    fix the code. Another ‘too incompetent to fix’ is the bug that causes the line to jump down one line
    when entering the quotation mark (“) and then pasting a quote, necessitating moving the quoted text
    up one line.

    Art [artfudd] Folden
    I'm a PC and Windows 7 sux less!
    ): !tol a xus llits liaMLW tub..
    ----------------------------------------------
    Its not nntp only..its also applies to Mail.

    Why....it wasn't working during the beta test..rather than fix it, the code
    was bypassed/removed to prevent complaints of it not working..thus a
    response to anyone complaining about the lack of that feature falls into
    the 'design intent' category....i.e..wysiwyg.

    ....winston

    "Duane Hebert" wrote in message

    "...winston" wrote in message

    No,
    Mix and match of two versions is not supported.

    The ability to auto insert a '>' in front of previous responders text was
    removed from the product.


    Why would they do that?

    See how stupid it is?
     
    Art [artfudd] Folden, Oct 22, 2010
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  14. Drew

    Duane Guest

    Or just use a tool that knows how to handle it.
    Seriously, if I can't reply to specific sections, it's not
    useful for me.

     
    Duane, Oct 22, 2010
    #14
  15. For me that problem is not so noticeable in mail mode because I always use HTML there.

    For newsgroup posts I use a line of dashes under my signature, so it is more apparent where my new text ends and quoted text
    begins.

    Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
    ------------------------------------------------------

    "...winston" wrote in message
    Its not nntp only..its also applies to Mail.

    Why....it wasn't working during the beta test..rather than fix it, the code
    was bypassed/removed to prevent complaints of it not working..thus a
    response to anyone complaining about the lack of that feature falls into
    the 'design intent' category....i.e..wysiwyg.

    ....winston

    "Duane Hebert" wrote in message

    "...winston" wrote in message

    No,
    Mix and match of two versions is not supported.

    The ability to auto insert a '>' in front of previous responders text was
    removed from the product.


    Why would they do that?

    See how stupid it is?
     
    Gary VanderMolen, Oct 23, 2010
    #15
  16. Drew

    ...winston Guest

    That works for me <g>

    ....winston

    ============

    "Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message

    For me that problem is not so noticeable in mail mode because I always use
    HTML there.

    For newsgroup posts I use a line of dashes under my signature, so it is
    more apparent where my new text ends and quoted text
    begins.

    Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
    ------------------------------------------------------
     
    ...winston, Oct 23, 2010
    #16
  17. I usually use whatever mode the mail was received in. I stopped
    fighting the HTML mode though. In those cases, I usually just top
    post the reply. Takes less time.
    That takes care of top posting but I prefer to reply to each section of
    a post separately. (Like this) It makes things easier to follow.

    Looks like I'll be using Thunderbird. Only problem with that was that
    it didn't import WLM. But my IT guy had installed Outlook that I never
    used. So I launched Outlook and had it import from OE (which I don't
    have but it seemed to find everything anyway) and then Thunderbird can
    import from Outlook.

    I'm not wild about Thunderbird so I may try WLM again if things change.
    For me, the two big things are the ability to quote properly and the
    ability to handle muli-part messages without showing them as a text
    attachment. For the moment, Thunderbird handles both of these problems.
     
    Duane Hébert, Oct 25, 2010
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