Live Mail Help ???

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Hägar, Apr 7, 2013.

  1. Hägar

    Hägar Guest

    Somehow, during one of those mysterious system upgrades, which I thought I
    had disabled, my Live Mail got upgraded to version 12.

    Is there any help file available ??? I know manuals fell by the wayside a
    long tie ago, but there used to be on-line help ... has Microsoft finally
    dropped all pretense of being user friendly, or is it just my age.

    Surely there is a Help File available somewhere ... or am I expecting too
    much ??

    TIA,

    Hagar
     
    Hägar, Apr 7, 2013
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  2. Hägar

    Dicky Guest

    Hit F1 while in Windows Live Mail

    "Hägar" wrote in message

    Somehow, during one of those mysterious system upgrades, which I thought I
    had disabled, my Live Mail got upgraded to version 12.

    Is there any help file available ??? I know manuals fell by the wayside a
    long tie ago, but there used to be on-line help ... has Microsoft finally
    dropped all pretense of being user friendly, or is it just my age.

    Surely there is a Help File available somewhere ... or am I expecting too
    much ??

    TIA,

    Hagar
     
    Dicky, Apr 7, 2013
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  3. Hägar

    Hägar Guest

    Dear Dickey,

    Not trying to be ungrateful for your reply, but I did hit F1 before I
    posted the request and it popped up a Windows Essentials screen, with a Mail
    option, which, when selected, brings up 9 FAQs. I don't know about you, but
    to me, that is not a Help File by any stretch of the imagination.

    Hagar

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    "Dicky" wrote in message
    Hit F1 while in Windows Live Mail

    "Hägar" wrote in message

    Somehow, during one of those mysterious system upgrades, which I thought I
    had disabled, my Live Mail got upgraded to version 12.

    Is there any help file available ??? I know manuals fell by the wayside a
    long tie ago, but there used to be on-line help ... has Microsoft finally
    dropped all pretense of being user friendly, or is it just my age.

    Surely there is a Help File available somewhere ... or am I expecting too
    much ??

    TIA,

    Hagar
     
    Hägar, Apr 7, 2013
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  4. Hägar

    StephenB Guest

    StephenB, Apr 8, 2013
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  5. Hägar

    Hägar Guest

    "StephenB" wrote in message

    < snipped to conserve virtual paper >

    Once again my original question was evaded. I am posting this at a "FORUM".
    I expected that Microsoft would at a minimum have a real-time location where
    I could post key words and have them return an answer, sort of like Word or
    Excel, or Power Point has. Secondly, thanks for giving me the low credit
    marks you all apparently think I deserve for posting here without having
    exhausted all other options.

    If you have a link to a real "Help File", please post it
    If all you have is a FAQ or join the long line at the MS Forum, don't
    bother.
    I can't really complain, because no matter how bad it is, it is free. If,
    on the other hand, there were a Windows 7 Outlook Express version
    alternative to this Live Mail abortion, I'd gladly pay for it.
     
    Hägar, Apr 8, 2013
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  6. Hägar

    Bruce Hagen Guest




    I don't know of any help option that you're looking for. I went to
    Thunderbird in Win7 myself. Can't even stand to look at WalMail. I can only
    offer you this.



    You can hack in Vista's Windows Mail.

    The easiest way to enable Windows Mail in Windows 7 is if you have access to
    a Vista machine. If not, see the links at the bottom.

    On the Win7 machine, find the "Windows Mail" folder in Program Files. Rename
    it to "OldWindows Mail" as a precaution.

    Using a Flash or CD, copy the "Windows Mail" folder in its entirety from the
    Vista machine.

    Go back to the Win7 machine and copy the "Windows Mail" from the Flash or CD
    to a location in Program Files.

    Open it and right click on the WinMail.exe file and send a shortcut to the
    Desktop. Done.



    See these if you do not have access to a Vista machine.

    How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7
    http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html

    How to enable Windows Mail app in Windows 7
    http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic137494.html



    If you have Pro or higher, you can use Outlook Express in XP Mode.

    How to use Outlook Express in Windows 7
    http://www.oehelp.com/OEnWin7.aspx


    And then there is................

    Top 11 Free Email Programs for Windows
    http://email.about.com/od/windowsemailclients/tp/free_email_prog.htm
     
    Bruce Hagen, Apr 8, 2013
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  7. Hägar

    ...winston Guest

    "Hägar" wrote in message If you have a link to a real "Help File", please post it
    If all you have is a FAQ or join the long line at the MS Forum, don't
    bother.
    I can't really complain, because no matter how bad it is, it is free. If,
    on the other hand, there were a Windows 7 Outlook Express version
    alternative to this Live Mail abortion, I'd gladly pay for it.
    There is not a 'real Help File'. The online link that Stephen B provided is the resource provided and intended for use by MSFT.

    There is not a Windows 7 Outlook Express version (just like there was not a Vista Outlook Express version or Windows 8 Outlook
    Express version)....development on OE ceased over 7 years ago.

    As you've noted..it's free, it works, and wysiwyg....and do note...the primary and design intent regardless of WLM's program
    feature set and/or capabilities is to use it for Hotmail type accounts (Hotmail, Live, MSn, Outlook.com) using the Http protocol
    (not POP3) with a Microsoft Account sign-on (fka Live ID) to Windows Live servers to sync contacts and calendar with the Hotmail
    type account's online services (contacts, calendar) in addition to (integration local and online) with the other Live
    Essentials/Windows Essentials programs included in the suite (Photo Gallery, Movie Maker, SkyDrive).

    Even if the above is not your cup of tea...don't worry about...the private beta testers for Live Essentials didn't understand that
    either (and a good reason they are no longer beta testers).

    Fyi...System Upgrades don't update the Live Essentials suite of programs. For Windows 7 and Windows 8 if you were using Live
    Essentials 2011...the program is capable of mandatorily upgrading to Windows Essentials 2012 (Build **version** 16 - your current
    version based on your posting properties).
     
    ...winston, Apr 9, 2013
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  8. Hägar

    StephenB Guest


    So true, so true! ;-)

    -steve
     
    StephenB, Apr 9, 2013
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  9. Hägar

    StephenB Guest

    No, you're posting this to a dead newsgroup that only exists because of the
    nature of nntp in that many ISPs ignore the Remove Group message.
    I posted the link to the "Forum" which is web based and the place Microsoft
    supports the Mail program.
    There is no "Help File" for Windows Live Mail other than that which has already
    been posted and you found on your own already.
    -steve
     
    StephenB, Apr 9, 2013
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  10. Hägar

    Hägar Guest

    Thank you Steve ... I like the News Groups, because of the personal
    interaction, like this one. I post a question and you guys reply, going out
    of your way to be helpful. I also notice that a lot of you have ties to MS.
    All I am saying is that MS once cared about what the public thought. You
    can only put so many bells and whistles into a program, in which 90% of the
    users only use 10% of the stuff that's being crammed into them. It is
    change for the sake of change, without any regard for the end user and the
    cost of unnecessary retraining and configuring of something that worked
    perfectly fine. That sort of arrogance precipitated the decline of the
    American auto industry, Harley Davidson and from the grumblings I hear at
    the office, Microsoft is next.

    Sure, Outlook Express did have a few shortcomings, but most of us figured
    out work-arounds, mostly grass-roots advice via the "outdated" News Groups.

    Those who didn't like OE, there were alternatives. But once you guys thought
    you had cornered the market niche, no more Mr. nice guy ... here's some new
    stuff, no instructions, take it or leave it.

    More and more of us are leaving it.
    Thanks for lending an ear.
     
    Hägar, Apr 9, 2013
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  11. Hägar

    Magnus Guest

    On 4/7/2013 9:26 PM, Hägar wrote:

    [elongated "complaining" deleted]
    Clearly you need "Help".
     
    Magnus, Apr 9, 2013
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  12. Hägar

    StephenB Guest

    I like newsgroups, too, but they are dying. I suppose the benefit for those who
    still have access to them and in need of help or an answer is that there are a
    bunch of us still watching and willing to help. ;-)

    You won't get any disagreement from me that Windows Live Mail could use further
    tweaking, but I doubt that we'll see any. Windows 8 is here and Mail (as crappy
    as that may still be) is the program of choice. The Windows Live products are
    now legacy add-on products for aging versions of Windows, though they will
    (mostly) install and run fine on Windows 8.

    In my opinion, Microsoft made a big bet with Windows 8 and only time will tell
    how that went. So far, it looks like it was mostly the right direction to take.
    Of course, there are those who will always cling to what they know and there are
    parts of Windows 8 that are unknown.

    Take care,

    -steve
     
    StephenB, Apr 10, 2013
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  13. Hägar

    gufus Guest

    "Magnus" wrote in message
    VBG
     
    gufus, Apr 27, 2013
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