Logging on taking a very long time

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by Abby, Dec 16, 2004.

  1. Abby

    Abby Guest

    Hi,

    I have set up a small network with a server running SBS Premium 2003.
    When I add a machine to the domain it takes ages to log on.
    I had the impression there may be DNS issues, however the servers A record
    does exist and I can do nslookups from host and server.

    Any ideas what may be causing the problems, or what steps I should take to
    troubleshoot the problem?

    Regards

    Abby
     
    Abby, Dec 16, 2004
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  2. Frank McCallister SBS MVP, Dec 16, 2004
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  3. Abby

    Fred Guest

    Abby,
    make sure you use the http://servername/connectcomputer wizard. Also check
    the TCP/IP settings and make sure the servers LAN IP Address is set as the
    DNS server.

    Fred
     
    Fred, Dec 16, 2004
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  4. Abby

    Fred Guest

    Check the TCP/IP settings on the "workstations"... sorry I left that out.
     
    Fred, Dec 16, 2004
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  5. It copies all the settings from the users login and creates one for the
    domain with the user's original settings..but changes the necessary ones for
    access to the server..... The computers I have used "connectcomputer" I
    never have problems with.....ones from Control Panel I constantly have
    problems....
     
    Michael Patrick, Dec 16, 2004
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  6. Hi Eric

    Someone posted a list that was extremely long but it does a tremendous
    amount of work in ALL of the modules of SBS. It adds all the users you want
    to use that WS and gives them RWW access. It runs setup and installs the
    programs you selected when you added Computers in todo list most notably
    Outlook 2003 and configures it for Exchange. It sets up the WS to run with
    ISA if installed. You need to learn to use the Wizards to do everything you
    can in SBS. If you start going outside the Wizards you look for trouble
    unless you are an extremely skilled AD person
     
    Frank McCallister SBS MVP, Dec 16, 2004
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  7. Abby

    Abby Guest

    Hi Frank,

    Apologies for the delay.

    The workstation that I was trying to connect to the domain was a Windows
    2000 Pro Laptop so I used the standard Network Properties tab to join the
    domain.

    I did try once with the wizard to join th edomain but got the same results.

    Here are the IPconfig settings:

    Many Thanks

    Abby

    IPCONFIG /ALL


    SERVER SETTINGS

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>IPCONFIG /All


    Windows IP Configuration



    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ATECSBS01

    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : AtecAssociates.local

    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : AtecAssociates.local



    Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:



    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection

    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-43-5B-F2-1E

    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2



    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>





    LAPTOP SETTINGS

    Windows 2000 IP Configuration



    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : atec004lt

    Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : AtecAssociates.local

    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : AtecAssociates.local



    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Networ

    on

    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-1F-CF-66-92

    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13

    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 21 December 2004 18:10:51

    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 29 December 2004 18:10:51
     
    Abby, Dec 22, 2004
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  8. Abby

    jassen Guest

    Hi
    This problem happened with me, and it has been solved by making the DN
    of the clients to be the local NIC of the server not the ISP DNS.

    Best regards,
    Moh'd Yassi


    -
    jasse
     
    jassen, Dec 22, 2004
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  9. Hi Abby,

    If you only have one nic in the server, the gateway cannot be the same as
    the IP. To what is the sbs connecting for the internet?

    The clients should have a gateway though.
     
    Marina Roos [SBS-MVP], Dec 22, 2004
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  10. Abby

    Eric Roberts Guest

    Do you have Roaming profiles enabled?

    A large profile(large My Documents, Desktop) will be very slow because the
    profile is being copied down from the server during every login.
     
    Eric Roberts, Dec 22, 2004
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  11. Abby

    Abby Guest

    Hi Marina,

    Thank you very much for all your assistance.
    I think I should provide a bit more background to the setup.
    Basically its a new Network that has not been connected to the Internet yet.
    It will be following a move to new office premises, however at present I
    need the local staff to be able to access files and printers.
    Following the move I will be setting up the eventual firewall as the gateway.
    So at present there isnt really a need for a gateway.

    Thanks again
    Rashid
     
    Abby, Dec 22, 2004
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  12. Abby

    Abby Guest

    Hi Eric,

    Thanks for your response.
    Sorry I dont have roaming profiles, infact the problem effects any account,
    whether or not they a small or large profile.
    It seems to be a problem with actually authenticating.
    be it DNS or something like that.

    Hope that clarifies things

    Abby
     
    Abby, Dec 22, 2004
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  13. Hi Rashid,

    Whatever you want, but remove the gateway from the server's nic.

    --
    Regards,

    Marina
    Microsoft SBS-MVP
     
    Marina Roos [SBS-MVP], Dec 22, 2004
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  14. Abby

    Abby Guest

    Hi,

    I have removed the default gateway and am still getting the same problem.
    Are there any logs in Event viewer I need to be aware of, or is there any
    other I need to consider?

    I have a sneaking suspicion there is a problem with DNS any ways of testing
    this setting?

    Regards

    Abby
     
    Abby, Dec 23, 2004
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  15. Hi Abby,

    Please post the fresh ipconfig/all from the server and the client.

    --
    Regards,

    Marina
    Microsoft SBS-MVP
     
    Marina Roos [SBS-MVP], Dec 24, 2004
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