Long Goodbye & Magically Vanishing Hard Drive

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Robert Robinson, May 22, 2007.

  1. There have been multiple reports of disk copy problems with
    Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn).
    The "Long Goodbye" is The Register's moniker for inexplicably slow file
    copying including system hangs.
    See: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/15/vistas_long_goodbye_continues/

    The "Vanishing Hard Drive" is a bizarre problem in which copying large
    amounts of data from one SATA II hard drive to another results in a
    system hang and the complete disappearance of any reference to the SATA
    drive from which information is being copied. We have repeatedly
    encountered this problem with copying of 5+GB of data from one SATA II
    drive to another or by using Microsoft's "Backup" application program.

    In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA
    II to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
    motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system. The problem
    also occurs with copying of data from an "on-board" controlled SATA
    drive to one that is attached to a SIIG PCIe controller. It does not
    happen with a copy from a SATA II drive on the on-board controller to
    one that is attached by a USB 2.0 connection. This is an interesting
    finding because one important difference is that there is a slower data
    transfer rate suggesting that a source of the problem may be timing
    errors. Changing SATA II drives hasn't corrected the problem nor has
    installing the latest BIOS and driver updates. Interestingly, there have
    been no copy failures using while running SATA II drives with the same
    operating system on a Dell PowerEdge 1800.

    The problem appears to be due to some combination of hardware and driver
    problems that occur with prolonged, high speed SATA II transfers. The
    operating system appears to inappropriately respond to the condition by
    completely disconnecting the drive and coming to a dead stop. The drive
    can only be re-attached after a cold start.
     
    Robert Robinson, May 22, 2007
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  2. Robert as your problems are related to the beta of Windows Server 2008 you
    have posted to the wrong newsgroup.
    This is the general peer to peer support newsgroup for Windows Vista.
    Pleas repost to microsoft.public.windows.server.prerelease
     
    Mike Brannigan, May 22, 2007
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  3. Robert Robinson

    DX Guest

    No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)." take
    note of the "Vista".
     
    DX, May 22, 2007
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  4. The Vista reference is only to the short "Long Goodbye" mention

    He then said about the lengthy description of his problem the "Vanishing
    Hard Drive"

    Quote "...
    In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA II
    to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
    motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system ..."

    Take note of the "Windows Server 2008"
     
    Mike Brannigan, May 22, 2007
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  5. Robert Robinson

    DX Guest

    I assume you did not read the article he is referring to then, that quotes
    "Vista" and funnily enough my "Vista" ultimate has experienced a lot of the
    issues of the article when it comes to file copying/deleting etc...

    maybe i need to go a get help from the "Windows 2008 Server also then ???"
     
    DX, May 22, 2007
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  6. yes I am aware of the article about the Long Goodbye ( a Vista issue) BUT
    the body of the original poster referred to the vanishing hard drive under
    Windows Server 2008.

    As an aside I wonder if those experiencing delays in file copy have disabled
    both the IPv6 and Windows Differential Compression features as doing so
    increases file copy speed.
     
    Mike Brannigan, May 22, 2007
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  7. Robert Robinson

    DX Guest

    Mike,

    Thanks for the tip will try that, the thing is why should a user have to
    disable 2 features to have there computer perform the basics, surely this
    should of been top of the list of things to work before release!!!!
     
    DX, May 22, 2007
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  8. Actually both bits work really well and increase the speed of file transfer
    over what you see today IF you are working in an IPv6 environment against
    Windows Server 2008 or a 2003 R2 system where you are communicating with the
    remote differential compression on both sides of the transfer.

    One can only speculate why this is the default setting prior to wide
    availability or adoption of both.
    Maybe it will just look great when all of a sudden your system goes into
    light speed the day your network switches to IPv6 and you rae transferring
    files to a Windows Server 2008 file server
     
    Mike Brannigan, May 22, 2007
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  9. Robert Robinson

    Guest Guest

    No Problem's Here (I Am Currently Running A MSDN Subscriber Download's Copy
    Of Windows Server 2008 Beta 3 Web Server Edition), Just FYI.

    Kevin John Panzke (MSDN Operating Systems Level Subscriber)

    P.S. Now If Microsoft Would Fix The MSDN Product Key Activation System So
    That MSDN Subscriber Download's Copies Of Windows Server 2008 Web Server
    Edition Would Activate On More Than Just One Computer, I Would Be Very Happy
    (I Had To Use Tele-Phone Activation Support In Order to Get It Activated On
    A Second Computer, Which Was A Real Pain In The A** Type Process To Go
    Through, Level One Tele-Phone Support Is Completely Hopeless), Just FYI.
     
    Guest, May 23, 2007
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