MailHop Relay, alternate port, worth the trouble?

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by Jim G, Mar 28, 2008.

  1. Jim G

    Jim G Guest

    I can sign up for MailHop Relay from DynDNS for an additional $10 per year,
    per domain versus MailHop Backup MX. Is it worth the effort to stop using
    port 25 and use an alternate port?

    I have IMF and Trend working to eliminate approximately 99% (guestimate) of
    all offensive email. The volume of rejected email is considerable but I have
    not looked at it or measured it in a long while, so I don't really know.

    I'm using my ISP as a SmartHost. Does that cause a problem with MailHop
    Relay?

    Jim G.
     
    Jim G, Mar 28, 2008
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  2. Jim G

    Jim G Guest

    I'm thinking that MailHop Relay will lessen the strain on my modem, router,
    and server by preventing a bunch of stuff from even coming in. According to
    the DynDNS site, MailHop Relay has: spam scanning and auto-discarding with
    SpamAssassin (including user-configurable thresholds), Sender whitelisting
    and blacklisting with pattern matching, Virus elimination with ClamAV, and
    DNSBL filtering and discarding.

    Isn't this basically what Vlad's Exchange Defender does? What does Vlad
    charge? His site does not have a hint of pricing info. I tend to assume, if
    you have to ask, you probably can not afford it.

    Jim

    message Are you proposing to use MailHop Relay in a hope to eliminate the rest of
    it?
    Spam is always going to be an issue...sounds like you've done a reasonably
    good job if you're getting that much eliminated...probably better than most

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
    -------------------------------------------------
    Microsoft MVPs
    Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
    Real World Answers
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    Please do not contact me directly regarding issues

    I can sign up for MailHop Relay from DynDNS for an additional $10 per year,
    per domain versus MailHop Backup MX. Is it worth the effort to stop using
    port 25 and use an alternate port?

    I have IMF and Trend working to eliminate approximately 99% (guestimate) of
    all offensive email. The volume of rejected email is considerable but I have
    not looked at it or measured it in a long while, so I don't really know.

    I'm using my ISP as a SmartHost. Does that cause a problem with MailHop
    Relay?

    Jim G.
     
    Jim G, Mar 29, 2008
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  3. Jim G

    SuperGumby Guest

    Nah Cris, not free, but a known cost, plainly stated on the dyndns site.
    ExchDef has no indication of costs (last I looked), you must ask for a
    quote.

    Not quite the same as Jim but I also tend to use services I can most easily
    establish the cost of, tending to ignore products (rather than simply
    expecting unreasonable cost) which do not have easily available pricing
    information.

    message I don't and none of my customers use external services, and our routers,
    modems and servers are doing just fine.

    And you're saying that MailHop Relay is free??
    As far as I know, Exchange Defender is pretty reasonably priced

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft
    Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
    I'm thinking that MailHop Relay will lessen the strain on my modem,
    router,
    and server by preventing a bunch of stuff from even coming in. According
    to
    the DynDNS site, MailHop Relay has: spam scanning and auto-discarding with
    SpamAssassin (including user-configurable thresholds), Sender whitelisting
    and blacklisting with pattern matching, Virus elimination with ClamAV, and
    DNSBL filtering and discarding.

    Isn't this basically what Vlad's Exchange Defender does? What does Vlad
    charge? His site does not have a hint of pricing info. I tend to assume,
    if
    you have to ask, you probably can not afford it.

    Jim

    message Are you proposing to use MailHop Relay in a hope to eliminate the rest of
    it?
    Spam is always going to be an issue...sounds like you've done a reasonably
    good job if you're getting that much eliminated...probably better than
    most

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
    -------------------------------------------------
    Microsoft MVPs
    Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
    Real World Answers
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    Please do not contact me directly regarding issues

    I can sign up for MailHop Relay from DynDNS for an additional $10 per
    year,
    per domain versus MailHop Backup MX. Is it worth the effort to stop using
    port 25 and use an alternate port?

    I have IMF and Trend working to eliminate approximately 99% (guestimate)
    of
    all offensive email. The volume of rejected email is considerable but I
    have
    not looked at it or measured it in a long while, so I don't really know.

    I'm using my ISP as a SmartHost. Does that cause a problem with MailHop
    Relay?

    Jim G.
     
    SuperGumby, Mar 29, 2008
    #3
  4. Jim G

    Jim G Guest

    So, is it worth the trouble?


    message Pricing is not listed on the Website because Vlad doesn't sell directly to
    end users, only available throught VARs, System Integrators, etc, so prices
    can somewhat vary

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft
    Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
    Nah Cris, not free, but a known cost, plainly stated on the dyndns site.
    ExchDef has no indication of costs (last I looked), you must ask for a
    quote.

    Not quite the same as Jim but I also tend to use services I can most easily
    establish the cost of, tending to ignore products (rather than simply
    expecting unreasonable cost) which do not have easily available pricing
    information.

    message I don't and none of my customers use external services, and our routers,
    modems and servers are doing just fine.

    And you're saying that MailHop Relay is free??
    As far as I know, Exchange Defender is pretty reasonably priced

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft
    Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
    I'm thinking that MailHop Relay will lessen the strain on my modem,
    router,
    and server by preventing a bunch of stuff from even coming in. According
    to
    the DynDNS site, MailHop Relay has: spam scanning and auto-discarding with
    SpamAssassin (including user-configurable thresholds), Sender whitelisting
    and blacklisting with pattern matching, Virus elimination with ClamAV, and
    DNSBL filtering and discarding.

    Isn't this basically what Vlad's Exchange Defender does? What does Vlad
    charge? His site does not have a hint of pricing info. I tend to assume,
    if
    you have to ask, you probably can not afford it.

    Jim

    message Are you proposing to use MailHop Relay in a hope to eliminate the rest of
    it?
    Spam is always going to be an issue...sounds like you've done a reasonably
    good job if you're getting that much eliminated...probably better than
    most

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
    -------------------------------------------------
    Microsoft MVPs
    Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
    Real World Answers
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    Please do not contact me directly regarding issues

    I can sign up for MailHop Relay from DynDNS for an additional $10 per
    year,
    per domain versus MailHop Backup MX. Is it worth the effort to stop using
    port 25 and use an alternate port?

    I have IMF and Trend working to eliminate approximately 99% (guestimate)
    of
    all offensive email. The volume of rejected email is considerable but I
    have
    not looked at it or measured it in a long while, so I don't really know.

    I'm using my ISP as a SmartHost. Does that cause a problem with MailHop
    Relay?

    Jim G.
     
    Jim G, Mar 30, 2008
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