MAK Activation keys

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Installation' started by ChielV, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. ChielV

    ChielV Guest

    My company has a Volume license and I have created a MAK for Vista
    Enterprise. If I have activated a test PC and afterwards format the PC, will
    the the activation count still show this activation? In other words, how can
    I disable the activations for PC which are no longer operational?

    And does my company have to pay for each activation seperately? We have an
    Enterprise agreement level A.

    Regards,
    Chiel Varkevisser
    The Netherlands
     
    ChielV, Feb 14, 2007
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  2. I bet you wanted to say ".. I created a KMS for Vista Enterprise".

    MAKS are Multiple Activation Keys for use against the normal MS-Activation
    over the internet, comparable to the Volumekeys on XP,only that MAK now need
    to be activated too.

    KMS is a Key Management Server, running on A Vista Workstation or a Server
    2003.

    If you set up like you told here, then your VistaClients can activate
    against the KMS, local and "offline" (not via Internet, but via intranet)
    and the KMS is counting the activated clients.

    Activated clients do only have 180 days then need to be activated again on
    the KMS.

    A KMS needs at least 25 vista clients, and the clients must be on the same
    network, the Server checks if the clients do answer periodical.

    If no answers from enough machines come in, the count substracts the missing
    client.

    If the count goes under 25, then the KMS cannot activate anymore.

    "A KMS host must have at least 25 physical Windows Vista clients connected
    to it before any of them will activate. Systems operating in virtual
    machine (VM) environments can also be activated using KMS, but they do not
    contribute to the system count.
    Clients must renew their activation by connecting to the KMS Host at least
    once every 180 days. Clients not yet activated will attempt to connect with
    the KMS host every two hours (value configurable). Once activated, they will
    attempt to connect to the KMS host every seven days (value configurable) and
    if successful will renew their 180-day activation life span"


    Very confusing stuff, and all because of piracy. but one can manage it..
    somehow..

    For a "official" description go here :

    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/plan/volact1.mspx

    SJ / germany
     
    Sascha Benjamin Jazbec, Feb 14, 2007
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  3. ChielV

    ChielV Guest

    No, I meant MAK. I don't use a KMS server here, because we are only testing
    and do not have 25 Vista PCs running here.

    So my question is: if several Vista clients are activated over the internet,
    and they all use this MAK (which can have up to 500 activations), is there a
    way to decrease the numer of activations in case a PC is formatted again?
     
    ChielV, Feb 15, 2007
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  4. ChielV

    AJR Guest

    Probably not - since the number of activations is incremented - there is no
    "decrementation" (such a word?). However Microsoft does provide additional
    keys upon request - do not know documentation required though.
     
    AJR, Feb 15, 2007
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  5. Hello,
    No the count is not decremented. Only activations are counted so each
    activation counts as one.
    increasing the number of activations can be done as per your licensing
    agreements. There should be instructions as to how to increase the number
    of activations on your MAK if you find you need more MAK activations. You
    would need to contact you licensing contact to get details on how to
    accomplish this.
    Thanks,
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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    |>No, I meant MAK. I don't use a KMS server here, because we are only
    testing
    |>and do not have 25 Vista PCs running here.
    |>
    |>So my question is: if several Vista clients are activated over the
    internet,
    |>and they all use this MAK (which can have up to 500 activations), is
    there a
    |>way to decrease the numer of activations in case a PC is formatted again?
    |>
    |>"Sascha Benjamin Jazbec" wrote:
    |>
    |>> I bet you wanted to say ".. I created a KMS for Vista Enterprise".
    |>>
    |>> MAKS are Multiple Activation Keys for use against the normal
    MS-Activation
    |>> over the internet, comparable to the Volumekeys on XP,only that MAK now
    need
    |>> to be activated too.
    |>>
    |>> KMS is a Key Management Server, running on A Vista Workstation or a
    Server
    |>> 2003.
    |>>
    |>> If you set up like you told here, then your VistaClients can activate
    |>> against the KMS, local and "offline" (not via Internet, but via
    intranet)
    |>> and the KMS is counting the activated clients.
    |>>
    |>> Activated clients do only have 180 days then need to be activated again
    on
    |>> the KMS.
    |>>
    |>> A KMS needs at least 25 vista clients, and the clients must be on the
    same
    |>> network, the Server checks if the clients do answer periodical.
    |>>
    |>> If no answers from enough machines come in, the count substracts the
    missing
    |>> client.
    |>>
    |>> If the count goes under 25, then the KMS cannot activate anymore.
    |>>
    |>> "A KMS host must have at least 25 physical Windows Vista clients
    connected
    |>> to it before any of them will activate. Systems operating in virtual
    |>> machine (VM) environments can also be activated using KMS, but they do
    not
    |>> contribute to the system count.
    |>> Clients must renew their activation by connecting to the KMS Host at
    least
    |>> once every 180 days. Clients not yet activated will attempt to connect
    with
    |>> the KMS host every two hours (value configurable). Once activated, they
    will
    |>> attempt to connect to the KMS host every seven days (value
    configurable) and
    |>> if successful will renew their 180-day activation life span"
    |>>
    |>>
    |>> Very confusing stuff, and all because of piracy. but one can manage
    it..
    |>> somehow..
    |>>
    |>> For a "official" description go here :
    |>>
    |>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/plan/volact1.mspx
    |>>
    |>> SJ / germany
    |>>
    |>> |>> > My company has a Volume license and I have created a MAK for Vista
    |>> > Enterprise. If I have activated a test PC and afterwards format the
    PC,
    |>> > will
    |>> > the the activation count still show this activation? In other words,
    how
    |>> > can
    |>> > I disable the activations for PC which are no longer operational?
    |>> >
    |>> > And does my company have to pay for each activation seperately? We
    have an
    |>> > Enterprise agreement level A.
    |>> >
    |>> > Regards,
    |>> > Chiel Varkevisser
    |>> > The Netherlands
    |>>
    |>>
    |>
     
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT], Feb 16, 2007
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  6. ChielV

    ChielV Guest

    When having a Enterprise Volume License Agreement, are we charged for the
    number of activations?

     
    ChielV, Feb 16, 2007
    #6
  7. Hello,
    No your agreement should spell out how may licenses you are charged for.
    You then get a MAK key for that number of activation plus some additional
    activations for rebuilds\replacement. If those are activations are all
    consumed, you can call to have the number of activations increased. You
    may be asked why you need the increase but there isn't an additional cost
    for this.
    Now if you have 10 licenses and you ask for 200 additional activations,
    that may raise some additional questions<G>
    Thanks,
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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    |>When having a Enterprise Volume License Agreement, are we charged for the
    |>number of activations?
    |>
    |>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" wrote:
    |>
    |>> Hello,
    |>> No the count is not decremented. Only activations are counted so each
    |>> activation counts as one.
    |>> increasing the number of activations can be done as per your licensing
    |>> agreements. There should be instructions as to how to increase the
    number
    |>> of activations on your MAK if you find you need more MAK activations.
    You
    |>> would need to contact you licensing contact to get details on how to
    |>> accomplish this.
    |>> Thanks,
    |>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    |>>
    |>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights
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    |>> |>Thread-Topic: MAK Activation keys
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    |>> |>
    |>> |>No, I meant MAK. I don't use a KMS server here, because we are only
    |>> testing
    |>> |>and do not have 25 Vista PCs running here.
    |>> |>
    |>> |>So my question is: if several Vista clients are activated over the
    |>> internet,
    |>> |>and they all use this MAK (which can have up to 500 activations), is
    |>> there a
    |>> |>way to decrease the numer of activations in case a PC is formatted
    again?
    |>> |>
    |>> |>"Sascha Benjamin Jazbec" wrote:
    |>> |>
    |>> |>> I bet you wanted to say ".. I created a KMS for Vista Enterprise".
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> MAKS are Multiple Activation Keys for use against the normal
    |>> MS-Activation
    |>> |>> over the internet, comparable to the Volumekeys on XP,only that MAK
    now
    |>> need
    |>> |>> to be activated too.
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> KMS is a Key Management Server, running on A Vista Workstation or a
    |>> Server
    |>> |>> 2003.
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> If you set up like you told here, then your VistaClients can
    activate
    |>> |>> against the KMS, local and "offline" (not via Internet, but via
    |>> intranet)
    |>> |>> and the KMS is counting the activated clients.
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> Activated clients do only have 180 days then need to be activated
    again
    |>> on
    |>> |>> the KMS.
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> A KMS needs at least 25 vista clients, and the clients must be on
    the
    |>> same
    |>> |>> network, the Server checks if the clients do answer periodical.
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> If no answers from enough machines come in, the count substracts
    the
    |>> missing
    |>> |>> client.
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> If the count goes under 25, then the KMS cannot activate anymore.
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> "A KMS host must have at least 25 physical Windows Vista clients
    |>> connected
    |>> |>> to it before any of them will activate. Systems operating in
    virtual
    |>> |>> machine (VM) environments can also be activated using KMS, but they
    do
    |>> not
    |>> |>> contribute to the system count.
    |>> |>> Clients must renew their activation by connecting to the KMS Host
    at
    |>> least
    |>> |>> once every 180 days. Clients not yet activated will attempt to
    connect
    |>> with
    |>> |>> the KMS host every two hours (value configurable). Once activated,
    they
    |>> will
    |>> |>> attempt to connect to the KMS host every seven days (value
    |>> configurable) and
    |>> |>> if successful will renew their 180-day activation life span"
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> Very confusing stuff, and all because of piracy. but one can manage
    |>> it..
    |>> |>> somehow..
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> For a "official" description go here :
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/plan/volact1.mspx
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> SJ / germany
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>> |>> |>> > My company has a Volume license and I have created a MAK for Vista
    |>> |>> > Enterprise. If I have activated a test PC and afterwards format
    the
    |>> PC,
    |>> |>> > will
    |>> |>> > the the activation count still show this activation? In other
    words,
    |>> how
    |>> |>> > can
    |>> |>> > I disable the activations for PC which are no longer operational?
    |>> |>> >
    |>> |>> > And does my company have to pay for each activation seperately?
    We
    |>> have an
    |>> |>> > Enterprise agreement level A.
    |>> |>> >
    |>> |>> > Regards,
    |>> |>> > Chiel Varkevisser
    |>> |>> > The Netherlands
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>>
    |>> |>
    |>>
    |>>
    |>
     
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT], Feb 16, 2007
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