Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Zygy, Apr 11, 2009.

  1. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) but the
    computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection for Malware
    and to check the settings.
    How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user)
    Do I need any other software for protection?
    Zygy, Apr 11, 2009
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  2. This can happen if your selected malware/antivirus program is in the process
    of updating and shuts itself down during the update process. If this is the
    cause you would most likely notice it soon after you start the computer
    and/or when the program is updating itself. If it happens only occasionally
    and sporadically then it's almost certainly no cause for worry.
    Richard G. Harper, Apr 11, 2009
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  3. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    Thank you for the reply. You are probably right because the warning
    disappears when the computer is restarted.
    Zygy, Apr 11, 2009
  4. Zygy

    Sam Hobbs Guest

    Look at "Control Panel | Security Center"; I think that is what you are
    asking about. If it is, then have a look at all the many other things in the
    Control Panel, so you know what is there.
    Sam Hobbs, Apr 11, 2009
  5. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    You know that a click on the warning icon produces the Security Centre, so
    there is no need to go through the Control Panel, but you do not say how to
    check the settings! What help is that?
    Zygy, Apr 12, 2009
  6. Where exactly do yo see these messages? Are they a pop up on the
    desktop? Many times, alerts like these are from hackers trying to get
    you to go to a web site and buy some protection.

    Do you have an anti virus software running? How about a software firewall?


    Hank Arnold
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Server - Directory Services
    Hank Arnold (MVP), Apr 12, 2009
  7. Zygy

    Sam Hobbs Guest

    You know I am just trying to help. Criticizing someone trying to help won't
    accomplish anything.

    The quality of answers often depend on the quality of the question.
    Sam Hobbs, Apr 12, 2009
  8. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    Hi Hank, thank you for the interest.

    The warning appears as a small red icon on the right side of the taskbar
    with a notice above it stating that there is no protection against Malware
    and that I should check the settings. When I click on the message I get the
    Security Center showing that there is no protection against Malware. I do
    not know how to proceed further to check the settings and activate the
    Malware protection.

    The AVG Anti-virus is updated hourly and running all the time and during the
    Malware incidents does not show any threats. I checked.

    The only Firewall I have is the Vista one. Microsoft assure us that it is
    impenetrable and one does not require another one.

    Over to you Hank.
    Zygy, Apr 13, 2009
  9. First off, let's address the firewall issue. No firewall is
    "impenetrable".... period. Some are better than others. There are many
    who will say that the Vista firewall is all you need. I'm not there,
    yet, but it is significantly better than the XP one. It is still
    considered by everyone whose opinion matters to me an "adequate"
    firewall. Combined with a router w/ a hardware firewall and "Safe
    computing" is it is, IMNSHO, sufficient for the average home user. There
    are much better firewalls out there, but reality is that they are so
    intrusive and cryptic, that the average user simply turns them off or
    answers "Yes" to every prompt...

    I haven't used the AVG software. Is this the free or paid version? Is it
    supposed to protect against Malware? I use NOD32 (from ESET) and it
    does, in fact, show up in the Security Center. You can download a 30 day
    trial version of NOD32. See if it works. I usually recommend it to folks
    who ask. It costs about $60, but, IMNSHO, worth every penny. Stay away
    from the ESET Security Suite, though. Many of us are very unhappy with
    the firewall function.

    If ESET does, in fact, show up in the Security Center, it means that
    your AVG software doesn't have any malware protection...

    BTW, a great uninstall program is "Revo Uninstaller". It not only runs
    the program's built-in uninstaller, it also searches out registry
    entries and files that are no longer necessary. I've been using it for
    about 6 months. It's worked flawlessly for me (and I install/uninstall a


    Hank Arnold
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Server - Directory Services
    Hank Arnold (MVP), Apr 13, 2009
  10. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    Many thanks for all the information. The AVG I run is paid for although it
    does not show that it includes Malware protection (it mentions
    Anti-Virus,Anti-Spyware and Anti-Rootkit protection as active) but the
    Security Centre shows that the Malware protection is on all the time and
    only disappears when I get the warning on the Taskbar.

    The warning disappears if I restart the computer and then the Security
    Centre show that the Malware protection is on. One of the contributors to
    these exchanges mentioned that maybe the warning appears only when the
    update of Malware protection (by Microsoft?) is in progress. Is that

    I will try NOD32 you recommend if you still feel I should do it.

    Regards Zygy.
    Zygy, Apr 13, 2009
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    Sam Hobbs Guest

    The avast! antivirus Home Edition is free; see:

    The features do not use the word malware, but Avast is considered very good;
    I sure have not seen anything indicating it is lacking. Is that something
    overlooked by many experts?
    Sam Hobbs, Apr 14, 2009
  12. Zygy

    Noel Paton Guest

    FWIW, AVG free includes what used to be a2 (a-squared) anti-malware -
    they bought the company a few years back, when it was considered one
    of the best of its kind.
    Noel Paton, Apr 14, 2009
  13. Zygy

    Sam Hobbs Guest

    Note that I made a mistake; Hank said AVG and I mistook it as Avast. I know
    they are different but clearly made a mistake.
    Sam Hobbs, Apr 16, 2009
  14. Are you running Microsoft Defender? If so, that seems to be the problem.
    I personally did not like Defender (too intrusive), but many swear by
    it. Try disabling it and see what happens. Maybe you need to uninstall
    and then re-install it...

    If this is the case, I don't think NOD32 (or any other AV program) will
    address your problem.


    Hank Arnold
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Server - Directory Services
    Hank Arnold (MVP), Apr 16, 2009
  15. Hello Zygy,

    You could try this:

    Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and choose
    Run as Administrator. Type (or Copy and Paste) the following command:

    winmgmt /verifyrepository

    If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", type this command:

    winmgmt /salvagerepository

    The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop commands to
    the services causing it to fail, saying, "A stop control has been sent to a
    service that other running services are dependent on"). It might take a
    couple minutes for the services to shut down. Run the last command again.
    You actually may have to run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes
    Ǝиçεl, Apr 19, 2009
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