Mark Conrad is still lying about his speech dictation speed!

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by andy t, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. andy t

    andy t Guest

    "Mark Conrad" why is he incapable of telling the truth?






    Interesting link that you posted about speech recognition. And you are
    right in saying I was right in saying speech recognition has only been worth
    trying within the last four years or less.




    Yes you did. You posted a link to a video on You Tube that showed the
    fastest talking woman in the world. She can speak 600 words per minute,
    which is true, she can.


    Unfortunately, she was speaking so fast that to any human, it sounded like
    gobbledygook and NOBODY in the world could understand it. It took a very
    special machine to convert what she was saying to text (NOT DRAGON).


    You implied the software they were using for recording her speech was Dragon
    or you implied that Dragon could decipher her words and put them on screen
    and be 100% accurate. This would have been impossible! I cannot remember
    which one of those two statements it was but people in here can easily type
    in your name, look back over your old posts and see I was telling the truth
    and that you were lying and making things up as usual.


    It is there in black and white for everybody on the web to see. I'm not
    going to let you wriggle out of that one Mr wriggly squiggly snake.




    Yep! You are renowned for it!




    Bullshit! The above statement is another example of how this cretin tries
    to wriggle out of a situation when he realises how ridiculous his statements
    sound after-the-fact.


    All his text has been put down in black and white complete including the
    entire context around it for everybody to see on the web. Anyone can easily
    check back to your earlier posts and see I was telling the truth about you.




    BULLSHIT and WRONG!!! (WHAT **** DOES THAT MEAN ANYWAY???). Explain
    yourself Mr wriggly squiggly snake??


    The standard test for typing you are on about is carried out nothing like
    you have described above. What you have written is complete tosh as per
    usual.


    The standard word count is where they count blocks of five keyboard strokes
    and then each block of five is counted as word. Not what you said above.


    Even doing it that way, you would be nowhere near the imaginary word count
    you have dreamt up above or indeed any of your other imaginary words per
    minute count that you have mentioned before.


    Read this link in Wiki to prove exactly what I am saying and for the
    standard test. In this test, every block of five keystrokes is counted.
    Even calculating with this test, you would get nowhere near your ridiculous
    claims. You would probably get 150 words per minute if you were lucky with
    no errors.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_per_minute


    Firstly, nobody mentioned using any standard test. All I said was count the
    words per minute. This is the normal test for typists.


    Not syllables, not characters, not divide by this or divide by that and not
    multiplied by the left hypotenuse of a diameter on a chimpanzees arse!


    Just count the words per minute not including spaces or punctuation
    (although you still have to put these in, the same as a typist would have to
    but they are not counted toward your total) and then afterwards take off the
    number of word mistakes you made from the your dictated words totalled.


    THEN TELL US HOW MANY WORDS YOU DICTATED IN ONE MINUTE AND HOW MANY MISTAKES
    YOU MADE? Can't make any plainer than that!


    Look at this link. They show you how to calculate wpm


    Http://www.ehow.com/how_5133296_calculate-words-per-minute.html



    This is exactly what they say and how it should be prepared and undertaken.
    It's quite easy to follow really. Surely, even you can take this in with a
    step-by-step guide.


    Step 1: Prepare the text you will type. Take the text from a book or
    magazine. Do not use a text that you are familiar with or you will not have
    accurate results.


    Step 2: Set the egg timer for one minute. As soon as you set it, you are
    ready to type.


    Step 3: Type the text until the egg timer sounds. At this time, you will
    count the words or use "Tools" in Word to find the count.


    Step 4: Proofread the text and count up your mistakes. Take the total
    amount of words typed and subtract the mistakes for your total word count
    per minute.


    If you do your dictating in Word, there is even a word count in the bottom
    right-hand corner so it does it all for you. That is the word count and
    that is the number you should be telling us less the word mistakes you made!


    My daughter-in-law took her typing test and she told me this is exactly how
    they test you by doing it this way.


    Okay, I am going to make it even easier for you to take the test and anybody
    else out there can try this, either by typing or by using speech
    recognition.


    Below is a link that will take you directly to a typing test that will test
    your speed in either typing or speech recognition. Once you get to the
    website, you just click 'Start Typing Test' and you just type or dictate
    their test document for one minute including all punctuation and spaces.


    You don't even have to time yourself because they do it all for you and at
    the end of the minute you don't even have to count the words or the errors
    because they do that all for you too.


    THEN come back and tell me how many words per minute you can dictate and how
    many errors there were. This test could not make it any simpler for you to
    test your speed!


    Here is the link: http://www.now1technologies.com/typetest





    Bullshit! You do not dictate naturally like that by dictating pre-arranged
    text from one source over and over again! Above is a prime example of you
    moving the goalposts again and changing the rules to suit your needs Mr
    wriggly squiggly snake! Read the link above that takes you to Wikipedia and
    THAT will tell you what the standard test for typing speeds really is. EVEN
    USING THAT you will get NOWHERE NEAR your fictional speeds!



    Just take the typing test from the link I show above THEN tell me how many
    words per minute you dictate and don't forget, this includes all punctuation
    and spaces and don't forget to tell us how many errors you make as well, as
    these will be taken off the eventual word count.






    FORGET your examples. That is you making up your own rules again. In the
    typing test link I show above, they give you a test document there to
    dictate from, without any of your medical words. There is no need to make
    any macros, as all the words are standard. Just dictate that.


    The most I managed was 154 words per minute without any errors. I could
    speak more by speaking faster and get over 160 words per minute but it
    brought up errors because by speaking that fast, the software could not
    understand and therefore decipher certain words I was saying.






    Once again, that is your interpretation of the typing speed test and your
    own made up crap. THAT does not boil down 150 words per minute. THAT boils
    down to bullshit! Take the typing test as shown above THEN tell us how many
    words per minute you can manage without any errors!






    Now, you are telling us of a word that is usually missed and you are still
    working on it. This sort of blows your 100% claim out of the water, doesn't
    it. Backpedalling again!






    Now we are saying 150 words per minute. That is a long way from 600 words
    per minute you originally claimed Dragon could succeed with and being 100%
    accurate.


    I have already told you in numerous posts before that I have managed just
    over 150 words per minute without any errors WITH BOTH WSR and Dragon. So
    this is not unique and can be achieved. So what's new?


    Remember, this guy started saying that you could dictate 600 words per
    minute using Dragon. Then realising what an idiot he made himself look like
    by saying this, he changed it to 300 words per minute. Then he changed it to
    syllables per minute because he must have looked at it again, then tried
    doing it, realised it could not be done and quickly backtracked by changing
    it to syllables per minute. Realising by saying this, made him look like a
    pratt. He swiftly changed it to 260 words per minute. I called his bluff
    once again because he was talking bullshit as usual. He must have tried his
    darned hardest to get 260 words on screen and not to expect any mistakes but
    obviously failed miserably (because it cannot be done). So he comes back and
    then changes it to 200 words per minute and expect there not to be any
    mistakes, which is STILL Bullshit! As I pointed out to him.


    So he has obviously had another rethink and bit his tongue as you can see
    above in black and white because now he is now admitting 150 words per
    minute. Don't get me wrong, that is still fast and I have been saying this
    is more realistic all throughout these shenanigans of his. But it's a long
    way from what he first professed @ 600 words per minute and changing his
    tune FIVE times along the way!


    What a dork! And he's still trying to wriggle out of it and justify it
    today.


    No one believes what you say any more Mark . It's just words from a
    bull-shitter.


    Even Dragon themselves admit that the average speed that someone speaks is
    120 words per minute. Your imaginary claims of some 300 words per minute, is
    180 MORE words per minute on top of that. Utter bullshit!


    http://www.dragonvoicerecognition.com/dragon-professional.cfm



    Look under the heading: "Features for Dragon NaturallySpeaking professional
    solutions."



    .... And then just underneath the subheading: "Up to 99% Accurate and Three
    Times Faster than Typing.



    .... Read how many words per minute Dragon reckons most people can speak!





    You don't know the meaning of the word truth! You only know what is inside
    your head, which is fairytale bullshit and tall stories!






    By 'the feature', I assume you mean the 'reviewer' option in speech
    properties. In this case, yes I have agreed it does not work and explained
    why in one of my previous posts.





    I have never implied that the toolkit has a reviewer in it. So if there is
    no reviewer in the toolkit, how can it be broke?


    What I have said and posted in detail in one of my previous posts, is that
    the add from file feature when used in conjunction with two other features
    within the toolkit, namely the add to dictionary and train from text
    features, will improve accuracy in dictation. Which it does.






    No it does not. I posted in detail in one of my previous posts exactly what
    the add from file does along with what the add to dictionary does in detail
    along with what the train from text feature does in detail. I also tell
    that THEY ALL should be used in conjunction with each other to get the best
    effect for greater accuracy. It is NOT the case that the add from file
    feature just adds words to the vocabulary.


    Read my previous posts.

    This is what the add from file feature actually does.


    'Add from file feature'


    This feature will allow you to improve the accuracy of your "Language
    Model." It's not the same as adding words to your personal dictionary but
    works by taking the text that you pass it, parses it into words, and then
    records the relative frequencies of occurrence of each word with respect to
    the words around it. If you use documents that represent your style of
    speaking, this feature will improve dictation accuracy.


    Currently only MS-Word 97-2003 (.doc) files, MS-Word 2007 (.docx) files and
    Text (.txt) files are recognized.


    Choose 'Browse' to locate your Word .doc file, then choose 'Begin Add from
    File' to begin.


    This is not a 'reviewer' or 'document scanning feature' as you call it.


    That is not the same as adding new names and words, which are not yet in the
    user's speech vocabulary.


    Read my previous posts.





    When used in conjunction with the other features in the toolkit, yes it does
    improve accuracy and I didn't need to use hundreds of documents, I only used
    roughly 80. AND it does not improve accuracy the same way as a reviewer
    does.


    Read my previous posts




    Only get 98 to 99%??? What do you want blood? That isn't bad considering it
    was significantly lower before I had the toolkit and for a piece of software
    that only cost $15.99.



    I have explained how to add as you call it 'complex text', words or phrases
    that are not in the vocabulary by simply, adding them to the dictionary and
    recording a pronunciation of that word or phrase.


    Read my previous posts!


    Hepaticocholangiocholecystenterostomies.


    You see. Still there from when I trained it and you can't get more complex
    than that! I will admit, I had to remember how I trained and pronounced it
    exactly but seeing as I will never ever use it, I will not lose any sleep
    over it ;-).


    There you go again putting words in my mouth. I did not say and I have never
    said "98% or less." I have said all along, I am getting 98 to 99% accuracy
    using dictation in WSR. That isn't bad considering it is free. Includes
    the show numbers command which eventually you will have to buy on top of the
    Dragon software (and it's not as good as WSR's version anyway). Does not
    need the KnowBrainer software to enhance the amount of commands it has
    (which is essential in Dragon and will cost you another $200). Comes within
    a whole operating system anyway. By buying a piece of software costing
    $15.99 will enhance accuracy with the features it has in it. Will enable you
    to make text and command macros, which cannot be done in the 'Preferred'
    version of Dragon and considering it has only been going just over two years
    compared to Dragon's 18 years.


    The reason I mention 98 to 99% accuracy in WSR is because I have already
    admitted and I agree that Dragon is slightly more accurate using dictation.
    I am constantly getting 99% accuracy all the time in there. No matter what
    you say, NO SPEECH APP IS 100% ACCURATE using dictation. Ask anybody or any
    expert and look at the link Re: Dragon above. Even they admit 99% accuracy
    is their peak.


    I have told you many times that I use both because WSR is easily faster at
    getting around the computer than Dragon on the command side. Dictation is
    just one part of a speech app. The command side is equally important. I see
    you conveniently forget to mention that part when you come back with your
    bullshit full on dictation ;-). Because YOU KNOW, I am right and brush it to
    one side.




    No you cannot. Nobody can because no speech app is 100% accurate using
    dictation. Stop making things up again and telling Porky pies Mr wriggly
    squiggly snake!




    Don't need complex medical text ;-).




    I already am and do ;-). Tell me something I don't know ;-).




    Yawn! I already do and have. Try and keep up young Mark ;-).


    < SNIP > the rest. You really are stuck with old news aren't you.





    98 to 99% accuracy I get using the WSR toolkit. 99% accuracy all the time I
    get with Dragon Professional and NO APP IS 100% ACCURATE with dictation
    contrary to your bullshit above Mr wriggly squiggly snake.





    In that case, what a waste of money it is.


    You would have been better off purchasing Dragon Professional and adding the
    medical words to the vocabulary because Professional has no problem with any
    words apart from certain homonyms and certain small ones that sound the same
    as I have mentioned before.




    Durr! I already know about the reviewer in Dragon. I have used it several
    times.


    It is an important feature but not imperative in the toolkit as explained
    umpteen times why it is not.



    Hepaticocholangiocholecystenterostomies. Look at that ;-).


    Came out first time again proving you do not need a reviewer for the
    software to remember that word. ;-) ;-)


    Don't forget to try your dictation speed in the typing speed test link as
    shown above. And no cheating and coming back telling Porky pies.


    I want to know how many words per minute and how many errors you made. See
    if you can tell the truth for once ;-).


    andy t
     
    andy t, Feb 12, 2010
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