MCE 2005 Xbox 360 Extender PC Setup Cannot find Xbox 360 on Networ

Discussion in 'Windows Media Center' started by Code Munky, Jan 3, 2006.

  1. Code Munky

    Jason Tsang Guest

    FWIW, the only Network Service I have enabled is the "Internet Gateway
    Device Discovery and Control Client". In my experience, the rest of them
    aren't needed.

    However (again, in my experience, after running into issues with the MS
    MN-700 router, which I've long dumped), if you have the UPnP User Interface
    installed, if you remove that on its own (without removing the Internet
    Gateway Device Discovery and Control Client), the Internet Gateway Device
    Discovery and Control
    Client gets broken. The only way to properly get the Internet Gateway
    Device Discovery and Control
    Client working again is to remove both UPnP user Interface, and Internet
    Gateway Device Discovery and Control Client, reboot when it tells you to,
    and then install only the Internet Gateway Device Discovery and Control
    Client.

    To simplify the troubleshooting for now, I'd recommend completely
    uninstalling F-Secure, and only use the Windows Firewall. The install
    program for the extender on the pc side knows exactly how to configure the
    exceptions for that firewall so that it should allow for communications with
    the xbox 360. I would also recommend you try it wired for now, and then
    once you get it working that way, to re-introduce the wireless parts of the
    setup back into the equation. Keep it simple, get it working, then
    re-introduce the more 'unique' aspects of your setup back into the equation.
    Once we get a known working state, we can then find out what is breaking it.

    --
    Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP

    Find out about the MS MVP Program -
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx

     
    Jason Tsang, Jan 7, 2006
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    Code Munky Guest

    Hi Jason,

    OK I decided to do the following:

    1) Delete the Xbox 360 from the DevicesTable in the registry (so I can
    ascertain as and when it gets discovered again).

    2) Unistall all 5 Network Services from Add/Remove Windows Components (as I
    don't see why they need to be installed anyway).

    I did that which forced a reboot. Upon reloading Windows I went back into
    the registry and the Xbox 360 had been rediscovered and was back in the
    DeviceTable.

    I re-ran the Setup program (I've started doing this through Media Center
    Extender Manager as it runs the same program, but without all the installing
    of stuff that's already there, plus I've also tried doing the full setup
    version which gives me the same results). An the setup says 'Verifying Setup
    Key' then says "Setup is unable to contact Xbox 360.".

    *********
    DvcConn.log
    *********
    10:03:15 : Security Code: 4573-3505
    10:03:15 : Searching device table for unaffiliated bobsleds.
    10:03:15 : Found 1 matching device(s).
    10:03:15 : Found a device matching the security code. DVCID =
    {00000000-0000-0000-0200-00125A4B306F}
    10:03:16 : Sanity Check : Making sure device is not already affiliated with
    this PC.
    10:03:16 : Starting affiliation.
    ***********************************************************
    ERROR
    ***********************************************************
    Timed out waiting for affiliation status.


    I will try a wired connection from xbox to router again. And give it another
    go. If that doesn't work I guess I'll have to uninstall F-Secure (and loose
    all my firewall application settings). :-(

    If you think of anything else, plz post.

    Thaks, Chris.

    --
    Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
    Xbox 360
    Linksys Wireless-G Network


     
    Code Munky, Jan 7, 2006
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    Code Munky Guest

    OK, I tried a wired connection and still had the same result. I have noticed
    however, when the Setup program is saying "Verifying Setup Key" shortly
    before it says "Setup is unable to contact Xbox 360." there is no network
    traffic comming out of my PC! The xbox is still sending it's 3 broadcast
    messages however (which I would expect).

    Do you know what the Setup is doing whilst it says verifying Setup key?
    It's obviosuly found the DeviceTable entry and is using that data for
    something....

    --
    Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
    Xbox 360
    Linksys Wireless-G Network


     
    Code Munky, Jan 7, 2006
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    Code Munky Guest

    Success!

    I resigned myself to the fact that I had to uninstall F-Secure and it now
    connetcs to the Xbox 360. Now it's up and running I'll reinstall F-Secure
    and see if everything still works. Maybe F-Secure was blocking something the
    Setup was doing, but will let normall operation work OK? I'll re-install
    F-Secure over the weekend and post the results back to this thread next week.

    Todd and Jason - thank you very very much for your help and sudgestinos.

    Best Regards,

    Chris

    --
    Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
    Xbox 360
    Linksys Wireless-G Network


     
    Code Munky, Jan 7, 2006
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    Code Munky Guest

    I think I'm going to cry.

    I re-installed F-Secure 2006 and everything stopped working!

    I got Media Connect to work by adding back in my rules to F-Secure and
    reinstalling Media Connect.

    Media Center Extender won't work anymore. Xbox still new about my media
    center link but it would talk to the PC. I tried deleting the media center
    entries from the xbox and trying the Setup again. This time the Xbox 360
    generates a new 8-digit code. I enter the code in the setup and get my
    original message about An Xbox not being found on the network!

    I'm back to square one and am about ready to throw in the towel. It doesn't
    look like I'm going to be able to use F-Secure which is a bit of a bummer as
    I've just paid out for a years subscription. :-(

    --
    Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
    Xbox 360
    Linksys Wireless-G Network


     
    Code Munky, Jan 7, 2006
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    Jason Tsang Guest

    At this point, I'd say lose F-Secure.

    If you have a hardware firewall (i.e. in a router), have Windows Firewall
    enabled on your computer and you are diligent about practising safe
    computing, F-Secure (in my opinion) is an unnecesary safety net..

    --
    Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP

    Find out about the MS MVP Program -
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx

     
    Jason Tsang, Jan 7, 2006
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    Code Munky Guest

    Hi Todd,

    Not sure if you're still reading this thread or not, but you were correct
    about F-Secure installing a Winsock layered service provider. It's just that
    it only shows up if you use the following command:

    netsh winsock show catalog

    I have posted the F-Secure related entries below for information. If I
    remove this entry either using the Ad-aware LSP plugin or run 'netsh winsock
    reset catalog' to restore the winsock layers to the defaults the Xbox 360 can
    connect through Media Center Extender without a problem, if I add the LSP
    back in it stops working again.

    I guess it's worth a go contacting F-Secure techinal support, at least to
    make them aware of the situation? I'll try and call them tomorrow to see if
    they know about this issue.

    If you know a bit about winsock and have a theory on why it is conflicting,
    post back to this thread. I am guessing that the F-Secure winsock layer is
    blocking/swallowing the UPnP messages???

    Cheers,

    Chris

    Winsock Catalog Provider Entry
    ------------------------------------------------------
    Entry Type: Layered Chain Entry
    Description: MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IP]
    Provider ID: {12FBF6DA-B477-4AB4-A957-54DBB28E7B6F}
    Provider Path: winsflt.dll
    Catalog Entry ID: 1078
    Version: 2
    Address Family: 2
    Max Address Length: 16
    Min Address Length: 16
    Socket Type: 1
    Protocol: 6
    Protocol Chain Length: 2
    Protocol Chain: 1077 : 1001


    Winsock Catalog Provider Entry
    ------------------------------------------------------
    Entry Type: Layered Chain Entry
    Description: MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IP]
    Provider ID: {47094BFA-4CA6-4021-B790-A11414696BB3}
    Provider Path: winsflt.dll
    Catalog Entry ID: 1079
    Version: 2
    Address Family: 2
    Max Address Length: 16
    Min Address Length: 16
    Socket Type: 2
    Protocol: 17
    Protocol Chain Length: 2
    Protocol Chain: 1077 : 1002


    Winsock Catalog Provider Entry
    ------------------------------------------------------
    Entry Type: Layered Chain Entry
    Description: MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IP]
    Provider ID: {EB898D8F-0B7B-459E-83D2-D9BC3C6C0DC8}
    Provider Path: winsflt.dll
    Catalog Entry ID: 1080
    Version: 2
    Address Family: 2
    Max Address Length: 16
    Min Address Length: 16
    Socket Type: 3
    Protocol: 0
    Protocol Chain Length: 2
    Protocol Chain: 1077 : 1003


    Winsock Catalog Provider Entry
    ------------------------------------------------------
    Entry Type: Layered Chain Entry
    Description: RSVP UDP Service Provider
    Provider ID: {E0925523-C016-4AA9-8D59-257CA082756B}
    Provider Path: winsflt.dll
    Catalog Entry ID: 1081
    Version: 6
    Address Family: 2
    Max Address Length: 16
    Min Address Length: 16
    Socket Type: 2
    Protocol: 17
    Protocol Chain Length: 2
    Protocol Chain: 1077 : 1004


    Winsock Catalog Provider Entry
    ------------------------------------------------------
    Entry Type: Layered Chain Entry
    Description: RSVP TCP Service Provider
    Provider ID: {0CFD6AC9-21F5-42E9-ACAE-1F3785398339}
    Provider Path: winsflt.dll
    Catalog Entry ID: 1082
    Version: 6
    Address Family: 2
    Max Address Length: 16
    Min Address Length: 16
    Socket Type: 1
    Protocol: 6
    Protocol Chain Length: 2
    Protocol Chain: 1077 : 1005
     
    Code Munky, Jan 9, 2006
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    Code Munky Guest

    Aryn,

    I know you say you have no firewalls installed, but it's worth checking your
    winsock settings in case there is a non-firewall application that has
    installed a layered service provider entry that is affecting the
    communication between the Xbox 360 and your PC.

    Type the following command at the command prompt to list all the installed
    LSP's to a text file. Post the contents of the text file back to this thread.

    netsh winsock show catalog > C:\LSP.TXT

    Cheers,

    Chris.
     
    Code Munky, Jan 9, 2006
    #28
  9. Also, do you have a motherboard with an Nvidia chipset? (the motherboard
    chipset, not your graphics chipset). Nvidia does offer a hardware-based
    firewall as part of their chipset offering.
     
    Todd Bowra [MSFT], Jan 10, 2006
    #29
  10. Chris,

    Thanks for the update. I'll pass this along to the person on our team who
    works with firewall vendors.

    regards,
    Todd

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    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


     
    Todd Bowra [MSFT], Jan 10, 2006
    #30
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    Hollywood524 Guest

    I am very very similar problems to those above. I have 2005 Media Center PC
    brand new from DELL. I am using the Linksys WRT55AG with a wired connection
    for the PC, router, and Xbox 360.

    When I run setup from www.xbox.com/pcsetup it gets all the way to where it
    says verifying setup key and the stop and says "setup cannot find Xbox 360"

    I have all the firewall ports that are required opened in the Windows
    Firewall and the Xbox 360 even shows up in my Windows Media Connect. The
    Xbox will not connect to my PC via Windows Media Connect or Media Center.

    The only other Firewall/Anti-Virus program on the PC is TrencoPC-cillin
    which has been disabled/not uninstalled when I run the 360 setup.

    Before with my previous DELL PC I was only using Windows Media Connect
    because it was only a XP based maching and everything was working perfect.

    Please Help!
     
    Hollywood524, Jan 30, 2006
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