MediaCenter freezes / hangs for one and a half minute

Discussion in 'Windows Media Center' started by Stefan Sjoberg, Jan 27, 2010.

  1. Stefan Sjoberg

    Curious Guest

    On your menu bar you should have many options on the View Menu. If you
    don't have your menu bar enabled you need to enable it.

    "Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > So, now I disabled Aero. The problem is still there.
    > No change.
    >
    > I also looked for the thumbnail-setting.
    > Am I blind or is there such a setting?
    > What I can see is that you can choose between small or big
    > thumbnails.
    > I cant find anywhere to browse pics without thumbnails.
    > And the freeze comes when clicking on pic to view it in fullscreen,
    > not in thumbnail-view.
    >
    > I dont know...
    > Doesnt feels like this has to do with large size of pics, thumbnails,
    > or things like that...
    > The problem is so exakt... On newstarted machine, no probs.
    > When it is there, it freeze for 80 -90 sec, then works fine for 5
    > minutes. Then freeze again. Works fine for 5 minutes, then freeze. And
    > so it continues.
    > If machine have been untouched for an hour or two, the problem comes
    > when taking up first pic to view, no matter what pic it is.
    > And then works fine for 5 minutes...
    >
    > Very odd... And irritating...
    > And the machine is newly installed. Nothing special installed on it.
    > No codec-packs, nothing like that.
    > /Stefan
    >
    >
    >
    > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:46:37 -0800, "Curious" <> wrote:
    >
    >>Aero graphics are used by any application on Win7 when enabled.
    >>Today's 5 megapixels cameras can easily take pictures creating 20 mb
    >>files.
    >>Suggest trying without using thumbnails to see if it has a major effect.
    >>
    >>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>> As I said, now I have a new bought Nvidia GwForce 9300 GS card in the
    >>> machine.
    >>> It has 512 Mb of graphics mem on the card. The Radeon-card was older,
    >>> dont know how much memory on that, but the result is same on both
    >>> cards.
    >>> Yes Areo is enabled (if it is standard in Win7, havnt changed it), but
    >>> the prob is when in MCE, and Aero dont do anything in MCE, does it?
    >>>
    >>> The pics are ordinary pics, taken with standard digital camera. Same
    >>> result if there is newly taken pics or older. But say, from really
    >>> small, up to 3-4 megs, as pics from digital cams are.
    >>>
    >>> /Stefan
    >>>
    >>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 17:01:00 -0800, "Curious" <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>How much memory is on your Radeon 700 card?
    >>>>What is the size of your picture files?
    >>>>Do you Aero enabled?
    >>>>
    >>>>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>news:...
    >>>>> The whole spec is in my first post, but I have 2 GB of RAM.
    >>>>> Checking in taskmgr windows, with mediacenter loadad eats about 920
    >>>>> MB, and I think thats sound like it should.
    >>>>> Checking when freeze dont make any differents. Memory is there, no
    >>>>> changes when slow.
    >>>>> Pagefile is set by windows, no special config, but when looking, its
    >>>>> set to 2047-3070.
    >>>>> Sound ok.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I noticed another thing. Behaviour is like this:
    >>>>> When machine have been on fore a while, and going in to show pics,
    >>>>> almost always, it freezes opening first pic. After 80 sec, ok.
    >>>>> Can scroll around, looking more pics and so.
    >>>>> But after about 5 minutes looking around, it freezes again for 80-90
    >>>>> secs, and then fine. looking around in pics-dir for 5 minutes, and
    >>>>> then freeze again. And so it is.
    >>>>> Tried to have it standing with no touch, just looking on taksmgr. Then
    >>>>> it not getting high util after 5 minutes, stays down. But directly,
    >>>>> when shifting a pic, it freezes, and util of wmplayer.exe get up to
    >>>>> 50-60%.
    >>>>> I even waited for about 10-15 minutes, no hirg util if no one touch
    >>>>> it, but as soon as I looks to a pic, it freezes with hig util.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Checked, and no other process runns every 5 minute...
    >>>>> And, as I say, nothing happens until I start browse pics...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Strange...
    >>>>> Ideas?
    >>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:03:13 -0800, "Curious" <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>How much memory do you have on your system?
    >>>>>>How much virtual memory do you have assigned for your paging file?
    >>>>>>When running slow what is the memory utilization?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>> I checked what decoder I run.
    >>>>>>> Its "Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder".
    >>>>>>> Standard?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I also changed video-card in my machine.
    >>>>>>> Took out the ATI-card and instelled a Nvidia GeForce 9300 GS.
    >>>>>>> New drivers.
    >>>>>>> The problem is still there.
    >>>>>>> As before, when machine is newly rebooted, it works fine.
    >>>>>>> But after some hours, it hansg for 80-90 secs when starting watching
    >>>>>>> photos...
    >>>>>>> And it comes back after browsing around a bit an watching more
    >>>>>>> photos....
    >>>>>>> String to get frustrarted...
    >>>>>>> A smat problem but irritaing...
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> More idea?
    >>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:18:53 -0800, "Curious" <>
    >>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>What decoder are you using for MC? Use the following utility to
    >>>>>>>>find
    >>>>>>>>out.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>http://thedigitallifestyle.com/cs/b...dia-center-decoder-utility-replaces-vmcd.aspx
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>50-60% CPU utilization is far too high for a dual core system
    >>>>>>>>running
    >>>>>>>>an
    >>>>>>>>app
    >>>>>>>>like MC which AFAIK is almost all single threaded.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>>>> Hi guys.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> I'm running Windows 7 32-bit, not 64-bit.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> And, yes, I have read that, not officially supported drivers.
    >>>>>>>>> But the behaivior is the same with Microsofts drivers, and ATIs
    >>>>>>>>> "Vista"-drivers. Is it then a driverprob?
    >>>>>>>>> Of course , it can definitly be a hardware-prob, but I dont
    >>>>>>>>> know...
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> I havnt runned the setup again, but as I said, the problem does
    >>>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>>> com always...
    >>>>>>>>> And often when the machine has been running for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> In the thread I rffer to in my earlier post there is also talk
    >>>>>>>>> about
    >>>>>>>>> videocards, but people the have problem with both ATI and Nvidia
    >>>>>>>>> cards...
    >>>>>>>>> Maybe I'll see if I can find another graphic-card and test with...
    >>>>>>>>> Or do you have any other ideas?
    >>>>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:49:10 +0530, "S.Sengupta"
    >>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>This is from ATI's site:-
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>Ref:-
    >>>>>>>>>>http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>If one selects Windows 7 64-bit Edition > Radeon > Radeon x700
    >>>>>>>>>>Series
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>"Note: AMD's DirectX 9 ATI Radeon graphics accelerators are not
    >>>>>>>>>>officially
    >>>>>>>>>>supported under Windows 7. If the user chooses to, they can
    >>>>>>>>>>install
    >>>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>ATI Catalyst Windows Vista graphics driver under Windows 7.
    >>>>>>>>>>Please
    >>>>>>>>>>be
    >>>>>>>>>>aware that none of the new Windows 7 graphics driver (WDDM 1.1)
    >>>>>>>>>>features
    >>>>>>>>>>are
    >>>>>>>>>>supported (as the Windows Vista level graphics driver is limited
    >>>>>>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>>WDDM
    >>>>>>>>>>1.0
    >>>>>>>>>>level support). Using the ATI Catalyst Windows Vista driver under
    >>>>>>>>>>Windows
    >>>>>>>>>>7
    >>>>>>>>>>is not officially supported by AMD, and as such AMD will not
    >>>>>>>>>>provide
    >>>>>>>>>>any
    >>>>>>>>>>form of customer support for users running in this configuration"
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>Ref:-
    >>>>>>>>>>http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownlo...px?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.18&lang=English
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>regards,
    >>>>>>>>>>S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>"Curious" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>> If you are running Win7 64 bit were you able to download and
    >>>>>>>>>>> install
    >>>>>>>>>>> Vista
    >>>>>>>>>>> 64 bit drivers?
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> "Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>> news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded and tested to install the drivers from ATI.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> ATI does not have native drivers for Win7 for this some of
    >>>>>>>>>>>> their
    >>>>>>>>>>>> card,
    >>>>>>>>>>>> mine fore exampel. But they states that their Vista-drivers
    >>>>>>>>>>>> should
    >>>>>>>>>>>> be
    >>>>>>>>>>>> fine, even if they dont give support on that.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyhow, first I thought it solved the problem, but today, when
    >>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>> machine have been running for som hours, the problem came back.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I went into the photo-section in MCE, browsed a directory, and
    >>>>>>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>>>>>> hanged with a black screen for one and a half minute.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I also noticed that sometimes, it hangs while stepping through
    >>>>>>>>>>>> pics,
    >>>>>>>>>>>> then it also hangs for one and a half minute, but then with the
    >>>>>>>>>>>> last
    >>>>>>>>>>>> shown pic on screen. But, as I said, mostly when going in to a
    >>>>>>>>>>>> new
    >>>>>>>>>>>> dir, and then with black screen.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Can it have somthing to do with that the machine have been on
    >>>>>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>> while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Read somthing about that othera also noticed that...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the other forum-tread I found, but as up till today, no
    >>>>>>>>>>>> solutrion.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> http://social.technet.microsoft.com...a/thread/05605a50-983a-49b0-b3b3-0dab1d4614b8
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Have any more ideas?
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, I can buy a new videocard, but I dont know if that
    >>>>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>> problem...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:20:52 +0530, "S.Sengupta"
    >>>>>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>I meant ATI's as manufacturer's site here. Not the vendor that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>marketed
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>sailed.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>with regards,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>"Curious" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disagree, the driver from the card manufacture's website is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same one which the card manufacturer shipped with the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> card
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> first
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> day it was released and it could be years out of date.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the card has an Nvidia chip get the latest driver from the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nvidia
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> website, if the card has an ATI/Radeon chip get the latest
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ATI website.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "S.Sengupta" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update your graphic card driver from the manufacturer site.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I reinstalled my MediaCenter-PC some weeks ago from Vista
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enterprise.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Works mostly fine, and feels good.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I have problem with is that it freezes periodicly
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching pictures.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The scenario is when I go into Pictures and videos, browse
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory, and clicks on a pic the screen goes black. If I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about one - one and a half minute, it shows the pic, and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue look att the others pics in the dir.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I go back and go into another directory it often goes
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can look. But suddenly, it hangs again, and stays hanged
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minute
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or so.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sometimes also got it then looking at an avi/mpg, it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangs,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starts playing after a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While it hangs I cant do anything with the remote.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I take a keyboard I can Alt+Tab and go to Windows
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything is fine, but when Alt+Tab:ing into MCE it still
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangs.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When in Windows, I can look in taskmanager and see that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wmplayer.exe
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is using 50-60 % of CPU-utilization. After a minite and a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> half,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU Util goes down, and thats when everything starts
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw another thread on another forum where people had the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem, but no solution...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC is an FujitsuSiemens AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core, 2 GB of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ATI
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Radeon X700.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should work fine...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Stefan
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    Curious, Feb 4, 2010
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  2. Menubar?
    In MediaCenter?
    The only thing I can call a menubar in the picture-part of MediaCenter
    has three choices:
    By name, by date and by class.

    And when pressing the "I" button on the remote, you can choose between
    small or big thumbnails.

    Or do you mean anywhere else?
    Out in explorer? The problem comes in MediaCenter, not in Windows.

    Or is there any other menu to enable in MediaCenter that I am not
    aware of?
    /Stefan

    On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 06:06:40 -0800, "Curious" <> wrote:

    >On your menu bar you should have many options on the View Menu. If you
    >don't have your menu bar enabled you need to enable it.
    >
    >"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> So, now I disabled Aero. The problem is still there.
    >> No change.
    >>
    >> I also looked for the thumbnail-setting.
    >> Am I blind or is there such a setting?
    >> What I can see is that you can choose between small or big
    >> thumbnails.
    >> I cant find anywhere to browse pics without thumbnails.
    >> And the freeze comes when clicking on pic to view it in fullscreen,
    >> not in thumbnail-view.
    >>
    >> I dont know...
    >> Doesnt feels like this has to do with large size of pics, thumbnails,
    >> or things like that...
    >> The problem is so exakt... On newstarted machine, no probs.
    >> When it is there, it freeze for 80 -90 sec, then works fine for 5
    >> minutes. Then freeze again. Works fine for 5 minutes, then freeze. And
    >> so it continues.
    >> If machine have been untouched for an hour or two, the problem comes
    >> when taking up first pic to view, no matter what pic it is.
    >> And then works fine for 5 minutes...
    >>
    >> Very odd... And irritating...
    >> And the machine is newly installed. Nothing special installed on it.
    >> No codec-packs, nothing like that.
    >> /Stefan
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:46:37 -0800, "Curious" <> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Aero graphics are used by any application on Win7 when enabled.
    >>>Today's 5 megapixels cameras can easily take pictures creating 20 mb
    >>>files.
    >>>Suggest trying without using thumbnails to see if it has a major effect.
    >>>
    >>>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>news:...
    >>>> As I said, now I have a new bought Nvidia GwForce 9300 GS card in the
    >>>> machine.
    >>>> It has 512 Mb of graphics mem on the card. The Radeon-card was older,
    >>>> dont know how much memory on that, but the result is same on both
    >>>> cards.
    >>>> Yes Areo is enabled (if it is standard in Win7, havnt changed it), but
    >>>> the prob is when in MCE, and Aero dont do anything in MCE, does it?
    >>>>
    >>>> The pics are ordinary pics, taken with standard digital camera. Same
    >>>> result if there is newly taken pics or older. But say, from really
    >>>> small, up to 3-4 megs, as pics from digital cams are.
    >>>>
    >>>> /Stefan
    >>>>
    >>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 17:01:00 -0800, "Curious" <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>How much memory is on your Radeon 700 card?
    >>>>>What is the size of your picture files?
    >>>>>Do you Aero enabled?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>news:...
    >>>>>> The whole spec is in my first post, but I have 2 GB of RAM.
    >>>>>> Checking in taskmgr windows, with mediacenter loadad eats about 920
    >>>>>> MB, and I think thats sound like it should.
    >>>>>> Checking when freeze dont make any differents. Memory is there, no
    >>>>>> changes when slow.
    >>>>>> Pagefile is set by windows, no special config, but when looking, its
    >>>>>> set to 2047-3070.
    >>>>>> Sound ok.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I noticed another thing. Behaviour is like this:
    >>>>>> When machine have been on fore a while, and going in to show pics,
    >>>>>> almost always, it freezes opening first pic. After 80 sec, ok.
    >>>>>> Can scroll around, looking more pics and so.
    >>>>>> But after about 5 minutes looking around, it freezes again for 80-90
    >>>>>> secs, and then fine. looking around in pics-dir for 5 minutes, and
    >>>>>> then freeze again. And so it is.
    >>>>>> Tried to have it standing with no touch, just looking on taksmgr. Then
    >>>>>> it not getting high util after 5 minutes, stays down. But directly,
    >>>>>> when shifting a pic, it freezes, and util of wmplayer.exe get up to
    >>>>>> 50-60%.
    >>>>>> I even waited for about 10-15 minutes, no hirg util if no one touch
    >>>>>> it, but as soon as I looks to a pic, it freezes with hig util.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Checked, and no other process runns every 5 minute...
    >>>>>> And, as I say, nothing happens until I start browse pics...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Strange...
    >>>>>> Ideas?
    >>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:03:13 -0800, "Curious" <> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>How much memory do you have on your system?
    >>>>>>>How much virtual memory do you have assigned for your paging file?
    >>>>>>>When running slow what is the memory utilization?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>>> I checked what decoder I run.
    >>>>>>>> Its "Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder".
    >>>>>>>> Standard?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> I also changed video-card in my machine.
    >>>>>>>> Took out the ATI-card and instelled a Nvidia GeForce 9300 GS.
    >>>>>>>> New drivers.
    >>>>>>>> The problem is still there.
    >>>>>>>> As before, when machine is newly rebooted, it works fine.
    >>>>>>>> But after some hours, it hansg for 80-90 secs when starting watching
    >>>>>>>> photos...
    >>>>>>>> And it comes back after browsing around a bit an watching more
    >>>>>>>> photos....
    >>>>>>>> String to get frustrarted...
    >>>>>>>> A smat problem but irritaing...
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> More idea?
    >>>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:18:53 -0800, "Curious" <>
    >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>What decoder are you using for MC? Use the following utility to
    >>>>>>>>>find
    >>>>>>>>>out.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>http://thedigitallifestyle.com/cs/b...dia-center-decoder-utility-replaces-vmcd.aspx
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>50-60% CPU utilization is far too high for a dual core system
    >>>>>>>>>running
    >>>>>>>>>an
    >>>>>>>>>app
    >>>>>>>>>like MC which AFAIK is almost all single threaded.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>>>>> Hi guys.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> I'm running Windows 7 32-bit, not 64-bit.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> And, yes, I have read that, not officially supported drivers.
    >>>>>>>>>> But the behaivior is the same with Microsofts drivers, and ATIs
    >>>>>>>>>> "Vista"-drivers. Is it then a driverprob?
    >>>>>>>>>> Of course , it can definitly be a hardware-prob, but I dont
    >>>>>>>>>> know...
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> I havnt runned the setup again, but as I said, the problem does
    >>>>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>>>> com always...
    >>>>>>>>>> And often when the machine has been running for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> In the thread I rffer to in my earlier post there is also talk
    >>>>>>>>>> about
    >>>>>>>>>> videocards, but people the have problem with both ATI and Nvidia
    >>>>>>>>>> cards...
    >>>>>>>>>> Maybe I'll see if I can find another graphic-card and test with...
    >>>>>>>>>> Or do you have any other ideas?
    >>>>>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:49:10 +0530, "S.Sengupta"
    >>>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>This is from ATI's site:-
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>Ref:-
    >>>>>>>>>>>http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>If one selects Windows 7 64-bit Edition > Radeon > Radeon x700
    >>>>>>>>>>>Series
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>"Note: AMD's DirectX 9 ATI Radeon graphics accelerators are not
    >>>>>>>>>>>officially
    >>>>>>>>>>>supported under Windows 7. If the user chooses to, they can
    >>>>>>>>>>>install
    >>>>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>ATI Catalyst Windows Vista graphics driver under Windows 7.
    >>>>>>>>>>>Please
    >>>>>>>>>>>be
    >>>>>>>>>>>aware that none of the new Windows 7 graphics driver (WDDM 1.1)
    >>>>>>>>>>>features
    >>>>>>>>>>>are
    >>>>>>>>>>>supported (as the Windows Vista level graphics driver is limited
    >>>>>>>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>>>WDDM
    >>>>>>>>>>>1.0
    >>>>>>>>>>>level support). Using the ATI Catalyst Windows Vista driver under
    >>>>>>>>>>>Windows
    >>>>>>>>>>>7
    >>>>>>>>>>>is not officially supported by AMD, and as such AMD will not
    >>>>>>>>>>>provide
    >>>>>>>>>>>any
    >>>>>>>>>>>form of customer support for users running in this configuration"
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>Ref:-
    >>>>>>>>>>>http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownlo...px?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.18&lang=English
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>regards,
    >>>>>>>>>>>S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>"Curious" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>> If you are running Win7 64 bit were you able to download and
    >>>>>>>>>>>> install
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Vista
    >>>>>>>>>>>> 64 bit drivers?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> "Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>> news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded and tested to install the drivers from ATI.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ATI does not have native drivers for Win7 for this some of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> their
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> card,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> mine fore exampel. But they states that their Vista-drivers
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> should
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> be
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> fine, even if they dont give support on that.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyhow, first I thought it solved the problem, but today, when
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> machine have been running for som hours, the problem came back.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I went into the photo-section in MCE, browsed a directory, and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> hanged with a black screen for one and a half minute.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I also noticed that sometimes, it hangs while stepping through
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> pics,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> then it also hangs for one and a half minute, but then with the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> last
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> shown pic on screen. But, as I said, mostly when going in to a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> new
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> dir, and then with black screen.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can it have somthing to do with that the machine have been on
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Read somthing about that othera also noticed that...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the other forum-tread I found, but as up till today, no
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> solutrion.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://social.technet.microsoft.com...a/thread/05605a50-983a-49b0-b3b3-0dab1d4614b8
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Have any more ideas?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, I can buy a new videocard, but I dont know if that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> problem...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:20:52 +0530, "S.Sengupta"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I meant ATI's as manufacturer's site here. Not the vendor that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>marketed
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>sailed.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>with regards,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Curious" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disagree, the driver from the card manufacture's website is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same one which the card manufacturer shipped with the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> card
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day it was released and it could be years out of date.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the card has an Nvidia chip get the latest driver from the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nvidia
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website, if the card has an ATI/Radeon chip get the latest
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ATI website.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "S.Sengupta" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update your graphic card driver from the manufacturer site.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I reinstalled my MediaCenter-PC some weeks ago from Vista
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enterprise.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Works mostly fine, and feels good.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I have problem with is that it freezes periodicly
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching pictures.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The scenario is when I go into Pictures and videos, browse
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory, and clicks on a pic the screen goes black. If I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about one - one and a half minute, it shows the pic, and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue look att the others pics in the dir.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I go back and go into another directory it often goes
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can look. But suddenly, it hangs again, and stays hanged
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minute
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or so.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sometimes also got it then looking at an avi/mpg, it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangs,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starts playing after a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While it hangs I cant do anything with the remote.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I take a keyboard I can Alt+Tab and go to Windows
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything is fine, but when Alt+Tab:ing into MCE it still
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangs.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When in Windows, I can look in taskmanager and see that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wmplayer.exe
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is using 50-60 % of CPU-utilization. After a minite and a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> half,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU Util goes down, and thats when everything starts
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw another thread on another forum where people had the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem, but no solution...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC is an FujitsuSiemens AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core, 2 GB of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ATI
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Radeon X700.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should work fine...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of
    >>>>>>>>>>>> virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>> signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
     
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  3. Stefan Sjoberg

    Curious Guest

    You are correct my mistake.
    You could try increasing the size of your paging file manually to about 6GB
    instead of letting Windows pick the size.
    Otherwise I am out of ideas.

    "Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Menubar?
    > In MediaCenter?
    > The only thing I can call a menubar in the picture-part of MediaCenter
    > has three choices:
    > By name, by date and by class.
    >
    > And when pressing the "I" button on the remote, you can choose between
    > small or big thumbnails.
    >
    > Or do you mean anywhere else?
    > Out in explorer? The problem comes in MediaCenter, not in Windows.
    >
    > Or is there any other menu to enable in MediaCenter that I am not
    > aware of?
    > /Stefan
    >
    > On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 06:06:40 -0800, "Curious" <> wrote:
    >
    >>On your menu bar you should have many options on the View Menu. If you
    >>don't have your menu bar enabled you need to enable it.
    >>
    >>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>> So, now I disabled Aero. The problem is still there.
    >>> No change.
    >>>
    >>> I also looked for the thumbnail-setting.
    >>> Am I blind or is there such a setting?
    >>> What I can see is that you can choose between small or big
    >>> thumbnails.
    >>> I cant find anywhere to browse pics without thumbnails.
    >>> And the freeze comes when clicking on pic to view it in fullscreen,
    >>> not in thumbnail-view.
    >>>
    >>> I dont know...
    >>> Doesnt feels like this has to do with large size of pics, thumbnails,
    >>> or things like that...
    >>> The problem is so exakt... On newstarted machine, no probs.
    >>> When it is there, it freeze for 80 -90 sec, then works fine for 5
    >>> minutes. Then freeze again. Works fine for 5 minutes, then freeze. And
    >>> so it continues.
    >>> If machine have been untouched for an hour or two, the problem comes
    >>> when taking up first pic to view, no matter what pic it is.
    >>> And then works fine for 5 minutes...
    >>>
    >>> Very odd... And irritating...
    >>> And the machine is newly installed. Nothing special installed on it.
    >>> No codec-packs, nothing like that.
    >>> /Stefan
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:46:37 -0800, "Curious" <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Aero graphics are used by any application on Win7 when enabled.
    >>>>Today's 5 megapixels cameras can easily take pictures creating 20 mb
    >>>>files.
    >>>>Suggest trying without using thumbnails to see if it has a major effect.
    >>>>
    >>>>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>news:...
    >>>>> As I said, now I have a new bought Nvidia GwForce 9300 GS card in the
    >>>>> machine.
    >>>>> It has 512 Mb of graphics mem on the card. The Radeon-card was older,
    >>>>> dont know how much memory on that, but the result is same on both
    >>>>> cards.
    >>>>> Yes Areo is enabled (if it is standard in Win7, havnt changed it), but
    >>>>> the prob is when in MCE, and Aero dont do anything in MCE, does it?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The pics are ordinary pics, taken with standard digital camera. Same
    >>>>> result if there is newly taken pics or older. But say, from really
    >>>>> small, up to 3-4 megs, as pics from digital cams are.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 17:01:00 -0800, "Curious" <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>How much memory is on your Radeon 700 card?
    >>>>>>What is the size of your picture files?
    >>>>>>Do you Aero enabled?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>> The whole spec is in my first post, but I have 2 GB of RAM.
    >>>>>>> Checking in taskmgr windows, with mediacenter loadad eats about 920
    >>>>>>> MB, and I think thats sound like it should.
    >>>>>>> Checking when freeze dont make any differents. Memory is there, no
    >>>>>>> changes when slow.
    >>>>>>> Pagefile is set by windows, no special config, but when looking, its
    >>>>>>> set to 2047-3070.
    >>>>>>> Sound ok.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I noticed another thing. Behaviour is like this:
    >>>>>>> When machine have been on fore a while, and going in to show pics,
    >>>>>>> almost always, it freezes opening first pic. After 80 sec, ok.
    >>>>>>> Can scroll around, looking more pics and so.
    >>>>>>> But after about 5 minutes looking around, it freezes again for 80-90
    >>>>>>> secs, and then fine. looking around in pics-dir for 5 minutes, and
    >>>>>>> then freeze again. And so it is.
    >>>>>>> Tried to have it standing with no touch, just looking on taksmgr.
    >>>>>>> Then
    >>>>>>> it not getting high util after 5 minutes, stays down. But directly,
    >>>>>>> when shifting a pic, it freezes, and util of wmplayer.exe get up to
    >>>>>>> 50-60%.
    >>>>>>> I even waited for about 10-15 minutes, no hirg util if no one touch
    >>>>>>> it, but as soon as I looks to a pic, it freezes with hig util.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Checked, and no other process runns every 5 minute...
    >>>>>>> And, as I say, nothing happens until I start browse pics...
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Strange...
    >>>>>>> Ideas?
    >>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:03:13 -0800, "Curious" <>
    >>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>How much memory do you have on your system?
    >>>>>>>>How much virtual memory do you have assigned for your paging file?
    >>>>>>>>When running slow what is the memory utilization?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>>>> I checked what decoder I run.
    >>>>>>>>> Its "Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder".
    >>>>>>>>> Standard?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> I also changed video-card in my machine.
    >>>>>>>>> Took out the ATI-card and instelled a Nvidia GeForce 9300 GS.
    >>>>>>>>> New drivers.
    >>>>>>>>> The problem is still there.
    >>>>>>>>> As before, when machine is newly rebooted, it works fine.
    >>>>>>>>> But after some hours, it hansg for 80-90 secs when starting
    >>>>>>>>> watching
    >>>>>>>>> photos...
    >>>>>>>>> And it comes back after browsing around a bit an watching more
    >>>>>>>>> photos....
    >>>>>>>>> String to get frustrarted...
    >>>>>>>>> A smat problem but irritaing...
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> More idea?
    >>>>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:18:53 -0800, "Curious" <>
    >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>What decoder are you using for MC? Use the following utility to
    >>>>>>>>>>find
    >>>>>>>>>>out.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>http://thedigitallifestyle.com/cs/b...dia-center-decoder-utility-replaces-vmcd.aspx
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>50-60% CPU utilization is far too high for a dual core system
    >>>>>>>>>>running
    >>>>>>>>>>an
    >>>>>>>>>>app
    >>>>>>>>>>like MC which AFAIK is almost all single threaded.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>"Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> I'm running Windows 7 32-bit, not 64-bit.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> And, yes, I have read that, not officially supported drivers.
    >>>>>>>>>>> But the behaivior is the same with Microsofts drivers, and ATIs
    >>>>>>>>>>> "Vista"-drivers. Is it then a driverprob?
    >>>>>>>>>>> Of course , it can definitly be a hardware-prob, but I dont
    >>>>>>>>>>> know...
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> I havnt runned the setup again, but as I said, the problem does
    >>>>>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>>>>> com always...
    >>>>>>>>>>> And often when the machine has been running for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> In the thread I rffer to in my earlier post there is also talk
    >>>>>>>>>>> about
    >>>>>>>>>>> videocards, but people the have problem with both ATI and Nvidia
    >>>>>>>>>>> cards...
    >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I'll see if I can find another graphic-card and test
    >>>>>>>>>>> with...
    >>>>>>>>>>> Or do you have any other ideas?
    >>>>>>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:49:10 +0530, "S.Sengupta"
    >>>>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>This is from ATI's site:-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Ref:-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>If one selects Windows 7 64-bit Edition > Radeon > Radeon x700
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Series
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>"Note: AMD's DirectX 9 ATI Radeon graphics accelerators are not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>officially
    >>>>>>>>>>>>supported under Windows 7. If the user chooses to, they can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>install
    >>>>>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>ATI Catalyst Windows Vista graphics driver under Windows 7.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Please
    >>>>>>>>>>>>be
    >>>>>>>>>>>>aware that none of the new Windows 7 graphics driver (WDDM 1.1)
    >>>>>>>>>>>>features
    >>>>>>>>>>>>are
    >>>>>>>>>>>>supported (as the Windows Vista level graphics driver is limited
    >>>>>>>>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>WDDM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>1.0
    >>>>>>>>>>>>level support). Using the ATI Catalyst Windows Vista driver
    >>>>>>>>>>>>under
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Windows
    >>>>>>>>>>>>7
    >>>>>>>>>>>>is not officially supported by AMD, and as such AMD will not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>provide
    >>>>>>>>>>>>any
    >>>>>>>>>>>>form of customer support for users running in this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>configuration"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Ref:-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownlo...px?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.18&lang=English
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>regards,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>"Curious" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are running Win7 64 bit were you able to download and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> install
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> 64 bit drivers?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded and tested to install the drivers from ATI.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ATI does not have native drivers for Win7 for this some of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> card,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine fore exampel. But they states that their Vista-drivers
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine, even if they dont give support on that.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyhow, first I thought it solved the problem, but today,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine have been running for som hours, the problem came
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> back.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went into the photo-section in MCE, browsed a directory,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hanged with a black screen for one and a half minute.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also noticed that sometimes, it hangs while stepping
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pics,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then it also hangs for one and a half minute, but then with
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown pic on screen. But, as I said, mostly when going in to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dir, and then with black screen.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can it have somthing to do with that the machine have been on
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read somthing about that othera also noticed that...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the other forum-tread I found, but as up till today,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solutrion.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://social.technet.microsoft.com...a/thread/05605a50-983a-49b0-b3b3-0dab1d4614b8
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have any more ideas?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, I can buy a new videocard, but I dont know if that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:20:52 +0530, "S.Sengupta"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I meant ATI's as manufacturer's site here. Not the vendor
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>marketed
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sailed.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with regards,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Curious" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disagree, the driver from the card manufacture's website
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same one which the card manufacturer shipped with the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> card
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day it was released and it could be years out of date.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the card has an Nvidia chip get the latest driver from
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nvidia
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website, if the card has an ATI/Radeon chip get the latest
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ATI website.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "S.Sengupta" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update your graphic card driver from the manufacturer
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Stefan Sjoberg" <> wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I reinstalled my MediaCenter-PC some weeks ago from Vista
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enterprise.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Works mostly fine, and feels good.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I have problem with is that it freezes
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> periodicly
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching pictures.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The scenario is when I go into Pictures and videos,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browse
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory, and clicks on a pic the screen goes black. If
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about one - one and a half minute, it shows the pic, and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue look att the others pics in the dir.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I go back and go into another directory it often goes
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can look. But suddenly, it hangs again, and stays hanged
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minute
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or so.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sometimes also got it then looking at an avi/mpg, it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangs,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starts playing after a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While it hangs I cant do anything with the remote.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I take a keyboard I can Alt+Tab and go to Windows
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything is fine, but when Alt+Tab:ing into MCE it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangs.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When in Windows, I can look in taskmanager and see that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wmplayer.exe
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is using 50-60 % of CPU-utilization. After a minite and a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> half,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU Util goes down, and thats when everything starts
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw another thread on another forum where people had
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem, but no solution...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC is an FujitsuSiemens AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core, 2 GB
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ATI
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Radeon X700.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should work fine...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Stefan
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>virus
    >>>>>>>>>>>>signature database 4811 (20100127) __________
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.eset.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
     
    Curious, Feb 4, 2010
    #23
  4. Well...
    Nothing of the obove helps...

    Anyone else tjat have seen this, or have an idea whats wrong?

    Next thing woud be to resinstall the whole machine, but there are some
    job with that...
    And I installed it 2 months ago..,
    /Stefan
     
    Stefan Sjoberg, Feb 10, 2010
    #24
  5. Stefan Sjoberg

    Guest

    On Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:06:18 PM UTC+1, Stefan Sjoberg wrote:
    > Well...
    > Nothing of the obove helps...
    >
    > Anyone else tjat have seen this, or have an idea whats wrong?
    >
    > Next thing woud be to resinstall the whole machine, but there are some
    > job with that...
    > And I installed it 2 months ago..,
    > /Stefan


    Did you ever resolve this issue Stefan?
    I have the exact same thing om my W7Ux64 i7-2600K 8GB RAM with SSD disc.
    Very annoying.
     
    , May 18, 2014
    #25
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