Microsoft despratly trying to convice people that vista is something else than total crap!

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by zuoer, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. zuoer

    zuoer Guest
    Article posted below my comments.

    My comments:

    Ok.. let them install some hardware, drivers, and programs, let them try to
    transfer files via networks,
    connect with other computers, let them use vista then for 3 months...

    Then that same group will be disgusted with CRAPISTA VISTA like everyone
    else is..

    and I wonder.. how stupid was this group so that they didn't realize the
    crappy design of vista right from the start?
    In order for them to be seeing vista and not realizing vista they must not
    have been geeks, not even the average XP user..
    they were problably ignorant....

    and then I ask you.. What kind of hardware did they have vista on??? Hmmmmm
    Perhaps state of the art 4 core machines with 2+ gigs? Let them install
    Crapista on their OWN XP MACHINES
    and compare Vista with XP.. LOL

    XP wins hands down on every comparison.. vista is a loser that everyone is
    waiting to die...

    RIP Vista.. your life was short
    and insignificant. GOOD RIDENS ALREADY! I will be glad to see you go... you
    piece of crap!

    Article posted below:

    Microsoft looks to 'Mojave' to revive Vista's image
    Posted by Ina Fried 4 comments
    REDMOND, Wash.--After months of searching for ways to defend its
    oft-maligned Windows operating system, Microsoft may just have found its
    best weapon: Vista's skeptics.

    Spurred by an e-mail from someone deep in the marketing ranks, Microsoft
    last week traveled to San Francisco, rounding up Windows XP users who had
    negative impressions of Vista. The subjects were put on video, asked about
    their Vista impressions, and then shown a "new" operating system, code-named
    Mojave. More than 90 percent gave positive feedback on what they saw. Then
    they were told that "Mojave" was actually Windows Vista.

    "Oh wow," said one user, eliciting exactly the exclamation that Microsoft
    had hoped to garner when it first released the operating system more than 18
    months ago. Instead, the operating system got mixed reviews and criticisms
    for its lack of compatibility and other headaches.

    To be sure, the focus groups didn't have to install Vista or hook it up to
    their existing home network. Still, the emotional appeal of the "everyman"
    trying Vista and liking it clearly packs an emotional punch, something the
    company has desperately needed. Microsoft is still trying to figure out just
    how it will use the Mojave footage in its marketing, though it will clearly
    have a place.

    The Mojave project is likely to be just one of many efforts designed to
    resuscitate Vista's image as well as lend strength to the Windows platform
    among stepped-up competition from Apple and Google. In an interview
    Wednesday, Windows unit business chief Bill Veghte told CNET News that he
    wants to see his unit try new things to get the message across.

    "We have a huge perception opportunity," he said, offering a glass half-full
    assessment of things. "We are going to try a bunch of stuff."

    The image improvement effort, known internally as FTP, has many components.
    Well-publicized are the hundreds of millions that Microsoft plans to spend
    on a broad campaign buttressed by edgy ads from Crispin Porter and Bogusky.
    But Veghte wants the company pushing on multiple marketing fronts.

    With small businesses, for example, Microsoft earlier this month launched
    the "Assurance" campaign. In that effort, Microsoft is offering free
    Vista-related technical support, a move that will add millions of dollars to
    Microsoft's telephone support costs. The point, Veghte said, is that
    businesses want to see Microsoft standing behind its product.

    Veghte is convinced, like others at Microsoft, that despite early technical
    challenges, Vista's problems are primarily ones of perception.

    Much of that perception, Microsoft belatedly acknowledges, stems from
    Apple's successful and unchallenged anti-Vista campaign. But, after stewing
    over the ads on many of his morning runs, Veghte decided that it was time to
    strike back, even without a new version of Windows to tout. Apple, he said,
    has "crossed a line" from fact into fiction.

    Others at Microsoft have been sounding a similar note. Marketing vice
    president Brad Brooks told partners earlier this month that Microsoft was
    "drawing a line in the sand," while Steve Ballmer promised in a memo to
    employees Wednesday that after doing some hard technical work on Vista that
    it was now time for Microsoft to "tell our story."

    "In the weeks ahead, we'll launch a campaign to address any lingering doubts
    our customers may have about Windows Vista," Ballmer wrote. "And later this
    year, you'll see a more comprehensive effort to redefine the meaning and
    value of Windows for our customers."

    What gives the Mojave project its power, though, is the fact that it isn't
    Ballmer or someone else at Microsoft saying that Vista has gotten a bad rap.
    It's everyday people.

    With scenes reminiscent of both Apple's "real people" campaign of a few
    years back as well as classic commercials from Folgers and others, the
    Mojave project could prove a formidable weapon.

    The Mojave project is remarkable both for its humble origin as well as the
    speed with which it was pulled off. The idea started barely two weeks ago in
    an e-mail from Microsoft's David Webster to several superiors, including
    Veghte. Given the green light, Microsoft started videotaping responses just
    last week, in San Francisco. The preview Veghte gave to CNET News on
    Wednesday was the first time the footage had been shown outside the company
    and its contractors.

    The footage could get a public airing as soon as next week or even at
    Thursday's financial analyst meeting, although plans were still in flux as
    of late Wednesday night. Veghte will come under increased scrutiny now that
    his boss, division president Kevin Johnson, is leaving the company. For the
    time being, Veghte and Windows engineering chief Steven Sinofsky will both
    report to Ballmer, who has called the work on Windows the company's top

    The need for the campaign is clear. Apple has been making inroads, as well
    as headlines with its anti-Vista push. Although Microsoft dominates in
    corporations and in overseas markets, Apple has been grabbing a significant
    share of the consumer market in the U.S., pushing its overall domestic share
    as high as 8.5 percent last quarter, a significant rise from even a year

    Microsoft is already at work on Windows 7, the next version of the operating
    system. But Veghte said the company can't wait for a new product to start
    firing back.

    "I've got to start having that discussion in the marketplace," Veghte said.
    "I've got to start driving that now. People feel guilty (about Vista). It's

    Microsoft hasn't said a ton about Windows 7, but it has talked about both a
    new multitouch interface as well as reassuring customers, particularly
    businesses, that it won't be making the kinds of dramatic changes under the
    hood that were made with Vista.
    zuoer, Jul 24, 2008
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  2. zuoer

    Tom Allen Guest

    Been there, done that, no trouble at all.

    'State of the art' ! That's run of the mill stuff, cheap as chips now,
    why would anyone do otherwise ( well, dual core on our machines seem
    fine ).

    Assuming you mean an under-specified machine, why would anyone in their
    right mind do that ?
    A little knowledge and a bit of forethought would have helped you (but
    deprived you of your rants).
    BTW the word is 'riddance' and 'No' I didn't read the article.

    Tom Allen, Jul 24, 2008
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  3. These trolls trot out the same FUD day after day, making no allowances for
    improvements that have been made either by MS or third party

    They are not worth the time of day..

    Mike Hall - MVP
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    How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
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    Mike Hall - MVP, Jul 24, 2008
  4. zuoer

    Bill Yanaire Guest

    You see zuoer you dumb **** I have you tied upside down and we're
    standing on a tall bridge with you on the end of a bungee cord. I keep
    kicking you in your big dumb ass then let you go, then when you bounce
    up I kick you again and again and all I need is to look up your own
    slop YOU wrote to slap you with it and expose you as the two faced
    moron you really are.
    Bill Yanaire, Jul 24, 2008
  5. zuoer

    Frank Guest

    #1 idiot moron loser, capin' crunch wrote:

    <---raving mad lunatic diatribe rant deleted as a public service->

    You're out of your fukkin mind!
    Frank, Jul 24, 2008
  6. zuoer

    Tom Allen Guest

    Been there, done that, no trouble at all.

    'State of the art' ! That's run of the mill stuff, cheap as chips now,
    why would anyone do otherwise ( well, dual core on our machines seem
    fine ).

    Assuming you mean an under-specified machine, why would anyone in their
    right mind do that ?
    A little knowledge and a bit of forethought would have helped you (but
    deprived you of your rants).
    BTW the word is 'riddance' and 'No' I didn't read the article.

    Tom Allen, Jul 24, 2008
  7. zuoer

    zuoer Guest

    be careful little monkey brained vista dweller....

    The min specs MS gives for Vista is a 800 mhz machine with 512mb ram! lol
    zuoer, Jul 24, 2008
  8. zuoer

    zuoer Guest

    MVP's suck.. they are trapped in the MS mindset and have no brains to break

    zuoer, Jul 24, 2008
  9. zuoer

    zuoer Guest

    I bet you didn't even read the post Mr Moron Frank Retardo
    zuoer, Jul 24, 2008
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    FAB Guest

    capin' crunch, the #1 idiot moron loser wrote:
    FAB, Jul 24, 2008
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    FAB Guest

    FAB, Jul 24, 2008
  12. zuoer

    zuoer Guest

    reflecting again Mr moron, Shit for Brains?

    zuoer, Jul 24, 2008
  13. zuoer

    zuoer Guest

    Dreaming again of dirty diapers, Mr Moron? I know you eat them...

    what a frikin loser you are...

    Worthless piece of crap
    zuoer, Jul 24, 2008
  14. zuoer

    FAB Guest

    zuoer wrote:

    Remember these facts #1 idiot moron loser.
    1) i have multiple installs of Vista running perfectly and you can't get
    one little install to run properly.
    2) Vista is...and no matter how many of your 'hate Vista rants' you
    post, you have no impact on Vista.
    You're the perfect loser!...LOL!
    FAB, Jul 24, 2008
  15. zuoer

    zuoer Guest

    Remember these delusions that Frank has...
    1) He has multiple installs of Vista running perfectly
    2) Vista is...something other than total shit
    zuoer, Jul 24, 2008
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    Frank Guest

    Frank, Jul 25, 2008
  17. zuoer

    fb Guest

    capin' crunch wrote:

    I'm the #1 idiot moron loser here.
    fb, Jul 25, 2008
  18. zuoer

    Ringmaster Guest

    Same asshole, same mistake

    fb <>
    Ringmaster, Jul 25, 2008
  19. zuoer

    Ringmaster Guest

    You are the village idiot in here. The asswipe pile of wet shit that
    everyone loves to boot around.
    Ringmaster, Jul 25, 2008
  20. zuoer

    Bill Yanaire Guest

    Adam, why can't you keep your facts straight? You are the vista idiot and
    embarrassment to this group. A number one fucktard at his finest. Now go
    to your room and don't come out until you can get it right. Understand?
    Bill Yanaire, Jul 25, 2008
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