Microsoft falling, further and further behind

Discussion in 'Windows Media Player' started by John Lockwood, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. Microsoft still insist on providing a maximum artwork resolution of 200x200
    (and having the gaul to call it 'hi-resolution'). Worse, with WMP11 they
    apparently will downgrade any higher resolution artwork you manually add.

    For some considerably time Apple via the iTunes Store have been providing
    600x600 artwork which is _nine_ times the resolution. Well now Microsoft are
    looking even more pathetic since Apple now offer 1425x1425 resolution
    artwork which equates to more than _fifty_ times the so called hi-resolution
    artwork offered by Microsoft.

    Note: iTunes 600x600 resolution was already the best of all the stores
    (Walmart and Amazon use 500x500).

    Now while this is perhaps an absurdly high resolution for its main uses (on
    an iPod screen or a computer display, or even a Full-HD 1080p TV), it is
    equally the case that Microsoft's offering of a paltry 200x200 pixels is
    barely adequate for even a Zune let alone using in Microsoft Media Center on
    a HDTV.

    Considering Microsoft have spent so much effort tarting up their graphics
    for Vista, disfiguring it with such mediocre artwork is a bizarre (but
    perhaps typical Microsoft) decision.
    John Lockwood, Mar 3, 2008
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  2. John Lockwood

    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    I haven't seen any recent Windows Media Player releases through which
    something like this would have been changed.

    You seem to be referring to a well-known feature request. It's been
    mentioned previously that the current 200x200 default size is maintained for
    backwards compatibility with numerous devices. There are potentially ways
    in the future to provide alternate solutions while maintaining backwards
    compatibility, but that requires associated work and testing, which
    generally would only be available with a more major release/update.
    zachd [MSFT], Mar 3, 2008
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  3. John Lockwood

    Darin Guest

    In typial Microsoft style this little forum thing isn't letting me start a
    new post, and in lieu of this thread's subject I have decided to ask my
    question here.
    So I've been using WMP 11 without a hitch for a while, however in the last
    couple weeks there's been a slowly fatal breakdown of all of its uses.
    1. Playing DVDs and video clips in AVI's "theare mode" (video plays
    fullscreen on secondary monitor while primary screen can display whatever as
    long as the video playing program is running) now only works with the DVD
    playing program which came packaged with my laptop.
    2. Media sharing to my PS3 (which kind of made my first problem obsolete) is
    now un-functional. Attempting to turn sharing on gives me: "Media sharing has
    been turned off because a required Windows setting or component has changed.
    For additional assistance, click Web Help." Web help provided no advice I
    couldn't figure out on my own (finally reinstalling it). Also I can access
    everybody else's media who is on my laptop/PS3 home network.
    3. Then suddenly a couple days ago my playlists wouldn't show up. I could
    play them by double-clicking on them, but not browse them. Then the next time
    I opened the player, my whole library was gone. Again I can play the
    playlists by double-clicking on their titles. Apparently the player is
    searching in the background, but its been an hour and nothing. Trying to
    manually add the files doesn't work either, my automatic and custom manual
    folders are gone, and when I add them to the list nothing happens.
    I guess its worth noting all of these problems were present before and after
    my reinstall of WMP 11. Also, the only change that has been made in the past
    couple days to the system is a running of Windows Update. So yeah, any help
    is appreciated and I'm sorry for interupting the thread.
    Darin, Mar 4, 2008
  4. John Lockwood

    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    zachd [MSFT], Mar 4, 2008
  5. I agree this would be more likely to be included in say a WMP12 type update.
    Three possible approaches would :-

    1. Add another file in an album folder to go alongside the 'Small' and
    'Large' versions, and make this the preferred one for WMP, Media Center, and
    modern devices.
    2. Standardise on a better quality size and auto downsample on the fly for
    ancient players.
    3. Discontinue artwork support for ancient players.

    Leaving things as is, is not an option (but Microsoft are not inspiring a
    lot of confidence this will be addressed in the next release).
    John Lockwood, Mar 4, 2008
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    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    There's others. This is a well-known area. =)
    I don't know what "Microsoft" you've had conversations with in any capacity
    which would lead you to have confidence or a lack thereof with regards to
    future functionality. Since it's pretty much explicitly against my terms of
    employment to comment upon future versions of any product, generally *I'm*
    limited to "That seems like a swell idea, chum." and other such absolute

    It's an interesting idea.
    zachd [MSFT], Mar 4, 2008
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