Migrating DC on an new machine

Discussion in 'Server Migration' started by Bertrand Grichting, Jul 12, 2004.

  1. I've seen some answers here that relate to my question but i am not
    confident that i really got the necessary informations.
    I want to upgrade my win2k DC (i also have a second DC) to a new win3k
    machine. Found a lot of infos about upgrading an existing machine, but what
    about a new one that should have the same name as the old one ? I would like
    to do a clean install, not upgrade of the "primary" DC

    Here is my idea of doing it:

    1.transfer FSMO-roles to second DC (win2k) (what about GlobalCatalog?)
    2.Denote first win2k DC to a member server, then delete it.
    3. Install win3k on the clean machine as member server.
    2. run dcpromo on win3k and make it a DC again.
    3. Transfer all (?) fsmo-roles back to the new win3k DC (anything else ?
    What about Global Catalog ?)
    4. Denote second win2k DC, delete it, reinstall Win3k and run dcpromo to
    make it additional DC

    Is this how it can work ? Am i missing something ? I heard someting about
    creating the application partition manually when running it this way ?

    I know that the upgrade would be easier, but i really want to start with a
    fresh install.

    Thanks for helping.

    Regards,
    Bertrand
     
    Bertrand Grichting, Jul 12, 2004
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  2. Hi Bertrand,

    Thanks for your posting here.

    I would like to suggest that you try these steps.

    1. Transfer all the FSMO roles including Global Catalog to the second
    Windows 2000 DC.
    2. Demote the first DC to a member server and move it to workgroup.
    3. Install Windows 2003 on the machine and join domain.
    4. Run ADprep on second Windows 2000 DC to extend the AD schema.
    5. Run DCpromo on Windows 2003 server to promote it to be a DC.
    6. Transfer all the FSMO roles including Global Catalog back.
    7. Demote the second Windows 2000 DC and move it to workgroup.
    8. Install Windows 2003 on it and promote it.

    References:

    HOW TO: View and Transfer FSMO Roles in Windows Server 2003
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=324801

    How to Upgrade Windows 2000 Domain Controllers to Windows Server 2003
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=325379

    Have a nice day!

    Regards,
    Bob Qin
    Product Support Services
    Microsoft Corporation

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    Bob Qin [MSFT], Jul 13, 2004
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  3. Hello Bob,

    thank you very much for your quick answer. One question remains: What
    about the application partition that is new to Windows2003 ? I've read
    the following text in a PPT-Presentation that came with Technet:

    --------quote----------
    Easiest way:
    Upgrade Domain Naming Master first
    Automatically creates application partitions
    Additional DCs at leisure
    Either upgrades or promoted 2003 Server member servers

    Safest way:
    Promote Windows 2003 Server member server to domain controller in a
    small domain
    Creation of DNS application partitions will fail
    When you feel confident, upgrade Domain Naming Master to Windows 2003
    Server
    Create DNS application partitions for forest and all domains that
    already have Windows 2003 Server DCs manually
    ---------unquote----------

    This confuses me a little bit. Do i have to create the application
    partition manually after going through your steps or is this a different
    scenario ?

    Thanks and regards,
    Bertrand Grichting
     
    Bertrand Grichting, Jul 13, 2004
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  4. Hello Bob,

    thank you very much for your quick answer. One question remains: What
    about the application partition that is new to Windows2003 ? I've read
    the following text in a PPT-Presentation that came with Technet:

    --------quote----------
    Easiest way:
    Upgrade Domain Naming Master first
    Automatically creates application partitions
    Additional DCs at leisure
    Either upgrades or promoted 2003 Server member servers

    Safest way:
    Promote Windows 2003 Server member server to domain controller in a
    small domain
    Creation of DNS application partitions will fail
    When you feel confident, upgrade Domain Naming Master to Windows 2003
    Server
    Create DNS application partitions for forest and all domains that
    already have Windows 2003 Server DCs manually
    ---------unquote----------

    This confuses me a little bit. Do i have to create the application
    partition manually after going through your steps or is this a different
    scenario ?

    Thanks and regards,
    Bertrand Grichting
     
    Bertrand Grichting, Jul 13, 2004
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  5. Hi Bertrand,

    Would you please show me the link of the PPT you mentioned?

    I will do further research on it.

    Thank you,

    Bob Qin
    Product Support Services
    Microsoft Corporation

    Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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    Bob Qin [MSFT], Jul 13, 2004
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  6. Hello Bob,

    sorry, the PPT was on a DVD that came with the Technet-subscription. I
    could send you the PPT if that helps.

    Regards,
    Bertrand
     
    Bertrand Grichting, Jul 13, 2004
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  7. If possible, please send the PPT to .

    Thank you,

    Bob Qin
    Product Support Services
    Microsoft Corporation

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    Bob Qin [MSFT], Jul 14, 2004
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  8. Hi Bertrand,

    You can do that after finishing upgrade. Using application directory
    partitions for Active Directory-integrated DNS zones can reduce replication
    traffic and the amount of data stored in the global catalog. After
    completing the upgrade of all Windows 2000-based domain controllers in the
    forest to Windows Server 2003, you can move the Active Directory-integrated
    DNS data on all DNS servers from the domain partition into the newly
    created DNS application directory partitions. This is done by changing the
    replication scope of the DNS zones.

    Move the DNS zones that you want to replicate to all DNS servers in the
    forest to the forest-wide DNS application directory partition,
    ForestDnsZones. For each domain in the forest, move the DNS zones that you
    want to replicate to all DNS servers in the domain to the domain-wide DNS
    application directory partition, DomainDnsZones.
    Important: Before you attempt to move DNS data to an application directory
    partition, make sure that the domain naming master is hosted on a Windows
    Server 2003-based domain controller.

    For more information about the application directory partition, please
    refer to the following articles:

    322669 How To Manage the Application Directory Partition and Replicas in
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=322669

    CHAPTER 9 of Windows Server 2003 Deployment Kit: Designing and Deploying
    Directory and Security Services
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=6cde6ee7-5df1-4394-
    92ed-2147c3a9ebbe&displaylang=en

    Upgrading Windows 2000 Domains to Windows Server 2003 Domains
    http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/all/deploy
    guide/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windowsserv/2003/all/de
    ployguide/en-us/dssbf_upwn_overview.asp

    Thank you again for using our newsgroup.

    Regards,
    Bob Qin
    Product Support Services
    Microsoft Corporation

    Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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    Bob Qin [MSFT], Jul 21, 2004
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