Migrating from SBS 2000 to SBS 2008

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  1. Zaz

    Zaz Guest

    Can anybody point me to documentation for migrating from SBS 2000 to SBS
    2008? I can see documentation for SBS 2003 to 2008........

    Thanks
     
    Zaz, Oct 14, 2008
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  2. Hello,

    Thank you for posting here.

    According to your description, I understand that:

    You have a concern about how to migrate from SBS 2000 to SBS 2008.

    If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.

    Currently, there is no direct migration path from SBS 2000 to SBS 2008. SBS
    2008 setup will crash if you attempt to join an existing SBS 2000 domain
    during a migration.

    I will forward this request to the product groups and if there is any
    update I will post it in this thread for your reference.
    Thanks for the reporting.

    Best regards,
    Miles Li

    Microsoft Online Partner Support
    Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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    Miles Li [MSFT], Oct 14, 2008
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  3. Hi,

    As Miles mentioned, we cannot migrate SBS 2000 to SBS 2008 directly. To
    migrate user and computer accounts, you can install ADMT 3.1 on a member
    2008 server in the destination domain. You must first complete SBS 2008
    setup as a clean install in its own domain prior to this. Exchange
    mailboxes must be exported using exmerge and copied to the SBS 2008 server,
    where you can run the import-mailbox cmdlets.

    I hope that the above information can be of assistance.

    Best regards,
    Laura Zhang

    Microsoft Online Partner Support
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    Laura Zhang[MSFT], Oct 14, 2008
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    Fred Blum, Oct 14, 2008
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  5. Here is a link to documents that should help.

    My guess is that you will need to do a two stage migration.

    You will need a new 64 bit server with a MINIMUM of 4 GB of RAM. and a
    minimum boot partition of 60GB.

    Setup a temporary server using a PC running Virtual Server 2005 and do a
    swing migration of SBS 2000 to SBS 2003. You can do this with Jeff's Swing
    migration kit listed below

    Then migrate to SBS2008 using a document from this series
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc707659.aspx

    Just FYI, I'm running SBS2008 in two fashions. One on server 2008 using
    Hyper-V and the other in a VMware environment. So you COULD actually setup
    SBS entirely in a Virtual environment.

    Hope this helps

    Michael Patrick, Engineering Coordinator The Mirazon Group
    MCITP-Enterprise, MCSE-2003, MCT, MCSA-M, MCDST, MS Small Business
    Specialist
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    Michael Patrick, Oct 14, 2008
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  6. Hi Gang,

    I want to add some clarification on this thread so nobody gets confused
    about what I'm soon supporting for migration to SBS 2008 vs what are being
    suggested as hypothetical below.

    I will be supporting SBS 2003 to SBS 2008, but that Kit is not released yet.
    I expect to support 2000 to 2008 as well.

    I expect to provide a Swing Migration project scenario for migration from
    SBS 2003 to SBS 2008, to be release (hopefully) in mid Nov 2008. The project
    solution and path I will offer is intended to continue to provide the list
    of benefits most people associate with a Swing Migration, including "nothing
    to undo", parallel construction offline with open timeline, preserve the
    server name, preserve the domain name and configuration, and the predictable
    result at the workstations saving the profiles unchanged. I will incorporate
    essential and useful elements in the SBS Setup so that the installation you
    get on your final server is "by the book", but I think the end result will
    be a much better one than what MS documentation path is going to provide.

    The Swing Migration scenario for SBS 2003 to 2008 will be recognizable as
    inspired by the procedural design compared to Swing to 2003 platforms, but
    there's some unavoidable complications and some non-subtle differences and
    tasks and procedures. Stated simply, you really can't just take the "old
    swing docs" and to the migration to SBS 2008 because SBS 2008 has a
    dramatically different setup automation now. Really different setup.
    Likewise, you probably can't judge from the "2003 Swing" process where the
    procedures for 2008 will diverge.

    However, I want to quell any discussion that there will need to be any
    situation where a "double-Swing" would be implied for any reason. I don't
    see that as ever required or even beneficial. There are many options to
    avoid that. I'm committed to providing a project solution that involves one
    construction project offline, with on transition to live server replacement
    that you can schedule for your convenience and only have the data move occur
    in that transition period.

    It will be more obvious what I'm talking about once I provide details of how
    I intend a "normal" Swing Migration to SBS 2008 to work, you will almost
    immediately recognize how the solution becomes available for migration from
    SBS 2000 to SBS 2008 in an orderly manner.

    Regarding the topic of VMs and whatnot, Swing Migration for 2008 platforms
    will be possible with or without using VMs, it's a non-issue. It will be
    neither a requirement, nor an impediment, nor a concern if you have a
    preference one way or another. I'm as much in favor as anyone else for using
    VM (Hyper-V or VMware) where it helps and not depending upon it. As I said
    many times at SMB Nation last week, a virtual server environment is just a
    different hardware platform that doesn't require dedicated hardware.

    I anticipate adoption support for SBS 2000 to SBS 2008 fairly quickly after
    releasing a Kit to support SBS 2003 to SBS 2008, I'm leaning toward that
    being something I support with "one kit", not a pair of products. However I
    do expect that there will be a different Technician Kit outlining the
    migration to non-SBS platforms based upon Windows 2008 and/or Exchange 2007
    on a non-SBS server. This is primarily because the SBS 2008 installation and
    setup is very much not like what you would do with standard version of
    Windows or Exchange.

    Jeff Middleton SBS-MVP
     
    Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP], Oct 14, 2008
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