Minimize to tray with close (X) button option update!

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Itus, Jun 29, 2008.

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    Itus Guest


    I would really like an extra option that would make it possible to minimize
    Windows Live Mail to the system tray using the close or (X) button! I think
    that many people feel the same way about this. Is there any way to get the
    developers attention, so they can give us an update with this option?

    Please reply if you feel the same way about this!
    Itus, Jun 29, 2008
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    Dave Guest

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    Dave, Jun 29, 2008
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    Ron Sommer Guest

    I think that there should an option for the car brake pedal to act as the
    It makes as much sense as not know if hitting the close button is going to
    close the program or just minimize it.
    Ron Sommer, Jun 29, 2008
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    Joan Archer Guest

    So what's wrong with just hitting the minimize button ?
    Joan Archer, Jun 29, 2008
  5. Since you can already do the same thing by clicking on Minimize,
    why would you also want to do that on Close? Logically that doesn't
    make sense. "Close" means exit.
    Gary VanderMolen, Jun 29, 2008
  6. Since you can already do the same thing by clicking on Minimize,
    Surely not?? Minimize puts it on the task bar, not the system tray.

    Steve Thackery, Jun 30, 2008
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    Ron Sommer Guest

    Right click on the tray icon, check Hide window when Inbox is minimized.
    Ron Sommer, Jun 30, 2008
  8. Right click on the tray icon, check Hide window when Inbox is minimized.

    Nice one. Should meet the OP's needs, apart from his bizarre wish that he
    can do this with the Close button!

    Steve Thackery, Jun 30, 2008
  9. Thx for this one!


    Steffen Andersen, Jun 30, 2008
  10. Unfortunately, a few ill-conceived IM programs started that trend (minimize
    to tray upon Close), and now it seems to be the "in" thing with a certain crowd.
    Gary VanderMolen, Jun 30, 2008
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    caztroy1234 Guest

    Some of you guys are idiots in addition to be tech snobs. There are people
    who simply want to make the lives of their less technology-literate
    friends/bosses/colleagues easier, and rather than treating them like
    schoolchildren and continuously reminding them that they should be hitting
    the button to minimize rather than the X to close, they would simply like a
    feature to use the X button to minimize.

    The analogy to the car pedals is idiotic because cars don't have 3 pedals
    that affect acceleration, which would be needed for a proper analogy with the
    mail appication. For the car analogy to work, cars would need a gas pedal
    (the open function for a mail application), a brake (the X button on the mail
    application) and a "slow" pedal, which no matter how long you held your foot
    on it, would never actually completely stop the car (the closest you could
    come to a pedal analogy for the minimize button).

    Nobody thinks they're part of an "in crowd" because they want an X button
    that minimizes. They simply have different technological wants/needs than
    your own. Berating them (when, by the use of the car pedal analogy, some of
    you yourselves obviously lack the ability to construct simple equations of
    formal logic) is not helpful. Many programs/appliances/instruments allow
    people to perform the same tasks two different ways, and many others have
    components that serve dual functions (what the X button would do if it could
    be programmed to minimize) even though one of those functions overlaps with
    the purpose of another component (in this case, the minimize button).

    If you don't want to actually help someone with their problem, just don't
    respond. They don't need your snide comments.
    caztroy1234, Jul 11, 2008
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    Ron Sommer Guest

    How is hitting Close and having the program Minimize helpful?
    If the Close button also Minimized then what are you going to do actually
    Close the program?
    Having many different ways to do things with a computer is fine, but lets
    not create confusion by having the Close button also Minimize.
    Ron Sommer, Jul 11, 2008
  13. You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.
    To me, wanting to use the Close (X) button to minimize a program
    makes no sense when there already is a Minimize button that does
    just that.

    In order to reduce learning time and confusion among new users,
    buttons need to have a well-defined purpose. Historically, those buttons
    in the Windows GUI have been well-defined, and to muddy the waters now
    servers no good purpose.
    Gary VanderMolen, Jul 11, 2008
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    N. Miller Guest

    There is nothing either idiotic, or snobbish about wanting the "Close"
    button to close an application instead of minimize it. When I click on the
    "X" buttton in any other application than certain IM clients, that
    application closes. If you are going to "X-Minimize", why not call it the
    "Minimize" button; and what will you do with the actual minimize button?
    Wanting the "X" button to minimize the application, instead of close it, as
    it was originally intended to do is kind of like expecting the accelerator
    pedal of your car to slow it down, instead of speed it up.
    What sort of help are you expecting? The programmers of WLM have decided
    that the buttons should perform their classic functions. Whatever you may
    think, the classic functions work just fine.
    N. Miller, Jul 11, 2008
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    Piotr Zema Guest

    Well, I strongly prefer to have minimize button to minimize App to TaskBar,
    and Close Btn to close ONLY window (Have App still running in background and
    access it from tray)
    Piotr Zema, Jul 11, 2008
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    Ron Sommer Guest

    How do you close the App?
    Ron Sommer, Jul 12, 2008
  17. MS would have add a 4th button that says "Really Close". ;-)
    Gary VanderMolen, Jul 12, 2008
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    N. Miller Guest

    Ever since Windows 2.03 (which was sold by Hewlett Packard for their Vectra
    line of computers), the "X" button closed the application. Do you really
    think those of us using Windows since then really want to change our
    expectations to suit you Young Turks raised on IM applications, which buck
    the trend?
    N. Miller, Jul 12, 2008
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    caztroy1234 Guest

    They're asking for an option, not an across-the-board change. You can stick
    to your crusty ways as long as you want. The Ottoman monarchists can do it as
    you will, and the Young Turks can have what they want. Customization is key
    to satisfaction.

    And thank you for the Vectra reference, it really aided everyone's
    understanding (... about the tech snobbery, that is).
    caztroy1234, Jul 13, 2008
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    caztroy1234 Guest

    It's not your opinion that's bothersome. It's your condescending tone.
    caztroy1234, Jul 13, 2008
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