Movie Maker Green Bar

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Music, Pictures and Video' started by Mark Masiak, Apr 12, 2007.

  1. Mark Masiak

    Mark Masiak Guest

    When I try to publish a movie I get a green bar along the bottom half and the
    movie is stretched across the top half.
    have tried all the different settings in 4:3 and 16:9
     
    Mark Masiak, Apr 12, 2007
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  2. Have you used copyright material in your movie, or have you made sure you
    have the latest vista compatible drivers for your graphics card.
     
    Graham Hughes, Apr 15, 2007
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  3. Mark Masiak

    Lord Relix Guest

    I am having this very same problem with a video I am making, and my guess is
    that it happened after I added a video overlay to the tiemline. Since then
    I've deleted it, but it is still there. Driivers are not a problem since I
    have them up to date. Any help would be appreciated (btw, I am running Vista
    Home Premium).
     
    Lord Relix, Apr 16, 2007
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  4. On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:50:06 -0700, Lord Relix <Lord
    What kind of green bar and where does it appear, at the sides, top,
    bottom, how wide is it. Got a picture?
     
    Adam Albright, Apr 16, 2007
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    Cynthia T Guest

    Me too, there's nothing copyrighted, my videos up to date, BUT IT SHOWS UP!
    It's just the bottom half that is green, the top shows the video, but it's
    squished. I made a movie but almost everyother clip is cut off. I've looked
    everywhere, no one has an answer to this...
     
    Cynthia T, Apr 17, 2007
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    Hari Seldon Guest

    Google this and follow the instructions. It helped me with the same
    problem. YMMV.

    Vista Codec Package 4.3.7

    Hari
     
    Hari Seldon, Apr 19, 2007
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    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    I do not recommend installing that package. If you analyze what it's doing,
    you'll see it's making some poor choices at this time that could destabilize
    your system. It's better than others, but "codec packs" are the one area
    where Nothing is really better than Something.

    If you need a specific codec, please get those updates directly from the
    vendor. You're going to make your life a lot happier. =)
     
    zachd [MSFT], Apr 20, 2007
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  8. Mark Masiak

    Hari Seldon Guest

    Analyze that package? I have no idea what you're talking about. I know I
    had the green bar. I searched many sites. I found some people with similar
    problems on thegreenbutton.com. This worked for them. I tried it. It
    worked for me. If you expect that end users will "analyze that package" I
    believe you're a little out of touch.

    I have two video editing packages on my machine: Pinnacle Studio 10 and
    Nero 7. Both were up to date. Both had the latest updates. Now re-read the
    first paragraph. What else would you expect a home user to do (short of
    getting a masters in Information Technology and reading nothing but
    technical journals)?

    I'm not blaming Microsoft but please don't come on here putting down
    solutions that work (without specific details) and offering none yourself.
    The "get the latest codecs from the manufacturer" only works if their
    updated codecs work. The don't for me and from what I've seen here they
    don't for others.

    BTW, the conversion in question was .avi to .wmv. Don't those two codecs
    ship with Vista?

    Art
     
    Hari Seldon, Apr 21, 2007
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    PapaJohn Guest

    I've read lots of posts by users who, after installing such packages, have
    found themselves with worse problems than they started with.... yes, some
    end up better off.

    avi and wmv are more file types than codecs.... an avi file compressed with
    the Panasonic DV codec works fine in Movie Maker, while one compressed with
    the Xvid codec doesnt.... a wmv file compressed with the video 9 codec can
    play on a Mac with a special player, while a wmv story from Photo Story 3
    can't play on it because stories are made with a different codec than
    movies.

    Overly confusing to just about all users?...
    --
    website references are to www.papajohn.org

    PapaJohn
     
    PapaJohn, Apr 21, 2007
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  10. Mark Masiak

    Hari Seldon Guest

    Thanks for taking the time to explain the codec thing PapaJohn. You have a
    real knack for not assuming, that's raree. BTW, I've always loved your
    site.

    Have you encountered users with this particular problem? What do you
    recommend when the most updated codecs don't solve it? Should we just avoid
    the conversion in those cases (and just view the .avi file in WMP)? Or have
    you found anything that works better? I know it isn't the most elegant
    solution but remove it and no one has come up with another solution that I'm
    aware of.

    I guess what got my goat originally was there are a few users out there
    (including me) that don't know how to "analyze what it's doing" and it's
    tossed out casually as if the average user is supposed to know how to do
    that.

    The way I read it, I offered a solution that worked for me with YMMV (Your
    Mileage May Vary) caveat. zachd [MSFT] said not to do it and really didn't
    offer an alternatve (unless of course the user knows how to specifically
    check which codecs recorded files use, which codecs are installed, and which
    manufacturers installed codecs have available updates). Given either a
    solution to a problem (with caveats), or suffering with a problem, what
    should we do? Each user will make their own decision. It worked for me.
    Some users might not want to try it (hence the YMMV).

    For those struggling with this concept (like me) the url to MSFTs codec help
    is:

    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Wi...5a49-8f61-45cc-8a7d-38c4695ba9291033.mspx#ELE

    (sorry for any line wrap but I'm on my way out the door and didn't have time
    for a tiny URL).

    I'll also throw in a plug for PapaJohn's site as well. His URL has helped
    me mucho in the past and no doubt will help mucho in the future.

    http://www.papajohn.org

    Hari
     
    Hari Seldon, Apr 21, 2007
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  11. Mark Masiak

    PapaJohn Guest

    thanks for the good words Hari...

    The thread started with Mark getting a green bar along the bottom of his
    saved movie.... then 3 more posters said they had a similar or the same
    problem... Lord Relix, Adam, and Cynthia.

    None of them mentioned the codec used to compress their source file(s)...
    they didn't even note the overall file types (avi, wmv, mpg, etc.). This
    never surprises me. File extensions are not visible to the average user with
    the default settings in Windows, so often the first step toward assessing
    the codecs is simply helping them see the file extension.

    Green bars are just one of many possible symptoms of codec-related issues.
    But, as Graham suggested, it could be a clue to something else such as the
    source material being copy-protected.

    It seems the 4 posters with the issues have gone elsewheres as they havn't
    made follow-up posts. That's fine, as the more interesting exchange of
    comments for me was that between you and zachd.... it led me to make my
    comment, and to tweak my website a bit on a few places.

    zachd is a very experienced programmer on the Microsoft Windows Media Player
    team... as such I expect him to know how to analyse a third party codec
    package. And I align with his approach of installing codecs individually
    rather than in large packages.

    I'm not a programmer, and don't understand what codecs are doing in the back
    rooms of my computer. And I too don't know how to analyse what installing
    the Vista Codec Package 4.3.7 would result in.

    The early waves of info about Vista show that its apps, like XP, have
    problems related to some codecs. Many users suggest installing the Vista
    Codec Package, and enough are happy with the results to pass along the
    recommendation.

    I don't see the day soon when users with codec-related issues will know that
    they have one, nevermind know what steps to take to resolve it... all they
    know is there's a green bar or something else.

    Those like yourself are easy to work with... file conversions are possible
    in all but rare instances, so I don't recommend stopping short of getting
    the file to where you want it. It starts with knowing the file extension...
    after that I refer posters to the Import Movie Source Files > Video section
    of my website... and onwards from there.

    Thanks again.... for sharing your perceptions
    --
    website references are to www.papajohn.org

    PapaJohn


     
    PapaJohn, Apr 21, 2007
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  12. Mark Masiak

    Hari Seldon Guest

    N/P PapaJohn. I wish it was easier too. And zachd, I know you are here to
    help and I do appreciate your input (I just stink at communication
    sometimes). I would never doublt what you or Papa say, it's just the rest
    of us have to get on with it sometimes.

    As for the O/Ps that apparently went elsewhere, I truly hope you all got the
    resolution you were looking for and did not damage your Vista installation.

    Hari

     
    Hari Seldon, Apr 21, 2007
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  13. Mark Masiak

    Mark Masiak Guest

    testing testing lots of damn testing...

    The original movie that I had a problem with was DIVX, but... wait until
    below.
    The green Bar was along the bottom of the screen (The grren bar actually has
    two thin yellow stripes one near the top and one near the bottom of the green
    bar)
    I've tried converting in different screen resolutions the movie is just
    stretched across the top half, more like a viewing area. so instead of it
    looking like this:

    |-----------------------|
    | |
    | |
    | |
    |-----------------------|

    it looks like this

    |-----------------------|
    | |
    |-----------------------|
    Green Green Green
    Green Green Green


    Just in case it was my install of Vista Home Premium or a hardware issue I
    tested the same movie on my Vista Business machine, same.

    Just incase it was the codec DIVX i converted it to WMV on an XP Machine and
    tried again on Vista and still got the Green Bar

    and the other comment about copyright somewhere, no it's not a copyright
    issue.

    have also tried with other DIVX, AVI the same

    I have since used the DVD maker to burn direct to a DVD on the same Vista
    Home Premium, and it worked fine.

    So, the issue is within Movie Maker somewhere...


    --

    Mark Masiak
    devlinfisher*




     
    Mark Masiak, Apr 23, 2007
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  14. Mark Masiak

    Mark Masiak Guest

    testing testing lots of damn testing...

    The original movie that I had a problem with was DIVX, but... wait until
    below.
    The green Bar was along the bottom of the screen (The grren bar actually has
    two thin yellow stripes one near the top and one near the bottom of the green
    bar)
    I've tried converting in different screen resolutions the movie is just
    stretched across the top half, more like a viewing area. so instead of it
    looking like this:

    |-----------------------|
    | |
    | |
    | |
    |-----------------------|

    it looks like this

    |-----------------------|
    | |
    |-----------------------|
    Green Green Green
    Green Green Green


    Just in case it was my install of Vista Home Premium or a hardware issue I
    tested the same movie on my Vista Business machine, same.

    Just incase it was the codec DIVX i converted it to WMV on an XP Machine and
    tried again on Vista and still got the Green Bar

    and the other comment about copyright somewhere, no it's not a copyright
    issue.

    have also tried with other DIVX, AVI the same

    I have since used the DVD maker to burn direct to a DVD on the same Vista
    Home Premium, and it worked fine.

    So, the issue is within Movie Maker somewhere...
     
    Mark Masiak, Apr 23, 2007
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  15. Mark Masiak

    Mark Masiak Guest

    also checked if it was a processor issue

    tried on Intel P4 HT & Intel Core Duo

     
    Mark Masiak, Apr 23, 2007
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    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    Which specific version of which DivX are you using? I'm aware of about ten
    implementing vendors out there, and each incremental release of most
    versions tend to produce slightly different results. It's kind of a
    confusing mess still. =(
     
    zachd [MSFT], Apr 28, 2007
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    T + S Guest

    I have been having the same problem, after publishing some avi files, the
    video can only be viewed with the annoying green bar. DivX is involved
    somehow...I don't know exactly how except I downloaded these files from
    veoh.com, and was also required to download DivX. If I recall, at one point
    during the download, there was a notice saying the codec, I think, was not
    yet entirely conmpatible with vista, but apparently some aspects might still
    work, unfortunately it seems viewing a perfect avi video is the major
    problem. I have converted these files into wmv format before editing them in
    movie maker, and they work fine, but I'd still prefer to see the video in avi
    format for better quality. If the problem is a codec incompatibility with
    vista (and lets keep in mind that I know next to nothing about computers),
    then is there anyway to overcome this, could I simply change the codec, or
    would I be unable to view my videos that seem to have initially required it?
     
    T + S, Apr 28, 2007
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  18. Mark Masiak

    T + S Guest

    I should also probably add that viewing the avi videos prior to placing them
    in movie maker and then publishing them, work perfectly fine in media player
    for example, but after publishing them once edited, the green bar rears it's
    ugly head.
     
    T + S, Apr 28, 2007
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    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    Yeah - there's about three codecs you could likely use here--
    divx
    ffdshow
    xvid

    I don't know which one you have right now. FFDShow is very popular but can
    be a little intrusive. xvid is still largely at a development stage. So it
    might be wisest to try the latest official DivX build (6.5 or so).

    Under WMP's Help:About:Technical Support Information menu tool, what
    specific codecs does it say you have installed?
     
    zachd [MSFT], May 1, 2007
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    Chris Guest

    I'm experiencing similar symptoms to what Mark described. When I use Movie
    Maker to process an XVID file and it then calls DVD Maker, the resulting DVD
    has a green bar across the lower-half of the screen. When I use Movie Maker
    to convert the XVID file to WMV format, the resulting .WMV file has the green
    bar, too.

    When I launched DVD Maker manually and added the XVID file myself, the
    resulting content does not have the green bar. So this appears to be a
    problem with XVID files in Movie Maker.

    The *menu* on the resulting DVD, however, *does* have the green bar. Once
    the Play link is pressed and the content begins to play, however, the green
    bar disappears. Not sure what is causing this; could the menu creation
    feature that DVD Maker uses be hampered by the same problem that is causing
    Movie Maker to generate the green bar?

    zachd, do you have any suggestions on how to: a) get rid of the green bar
    from the files that Movie Maker generates? b) get rid of the green bar from
    the menu that DVD Maker generates?
     
    Chris, Jun 18, 2007
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