MultiBoot and BCDEDIT

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Ed Dixon, Apr 24, 2006.

  1. Ed Dixon

    Ed Dixon Guest

    In previous versions of windows multiboot configs were stored in boot.ini.
    This was a simlple text file that could easily be edited and updated using
    Notepad.

    Vista seems to have taken a different approach and instead created BCDEDIT.
    The problem I see is that BCDEDIT is a command shell utility. Being
    DOS-like, cut and paste options are gone. It seems that doing anything is
    now many times more difficult.

    Vista no longer works on this system, and reinstalls fail with undocumented
    copy errors. However I'm still left with yet another boot menu that has no
    purpose in life now.

    Is there any easy way to make this new Vists boot menu go away altogether?

    Ed
     
    Ed Dixon, Apr 24, 2006
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  2. Ed Dixon

    Ed Dixon Guest

    Already found that one earlier.

    I found a way to get rid of the old entries. However Vista now refuses to
    install with a "An error occurred while copying files" error and it's all
    over.

    This happens for installs on all drives, from the DVD, from the ISO
    (mounted) ,etc. There are no remaining files on the drives from previous
    failed installs.

    Seems to be a classic catch-22 situation.

    Ed
     
    Ed Dixon, Apr 24, 2006
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  3. Andre Da Costa [Extended64], Apr 24, 2006
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  4. Ed Dixon

    Ed Dixon Guest

    No chance on that. Clearly Vista is not ready for prime time.

    Ed
     
    Ed Dixon, Apr 24, 2006
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    Jason Guest

    You are right on that, thats why it is still in Beta. :)


    --
    Jason

    Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group.
    Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.

    http://www.orderpcs4free.com/?r=878

    MS Windows XP Pro, IE 7.0.5335.5 Beta 2
     
    Jason, Apr 24, 2006
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  6. Ed Dixon

    Ed Dixon Guest

    By prime time, I mean it's not even ready for Beta. As the back woods folks
    say, "This dog don't hunt...".

    Ed
     
    Ed Dixon, Apr 24, 2006
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  7. The error message "There was an Error while copying Files," is most often
    caused by trying to Install Windows Vista on a Un-Formatted RAW Hard Disk
    Drive. You must first Format your Hard Disk Drive with something other than
    Windows Vista's Disk Formatting Software (which does not work correctly just
    yet, and may cause your Hard Disk Drive to stop working correctly), I would
    recommend using your Hard Disk Drive Manufacturer's Disk Formatting Software
    instead.
     
    Kevin John Panzke, Apr 24, 2006
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    Jason Guest

    I would disagree on this. So far, what I have read in newsgroups and web
    sites and seen from screen shots, it is improving and at this time, still
    should be beta. If it wasn't beta, there is no way that Microsoft could
    have improved it so much in the recent builds because of the limited amount
    of users they have.

    --
    Jason

    Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group.
    Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.

    http://www.orderpcs4free.com/?r=878

    MS Windows XP Pro, IE 7.0.5335.5 Beta 2
     
    Jason, Apr 24, 2006
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  9. Ed Dixon

    Ed Dixon Guest

    That is not the issue. The drive is already NTFS and has had other versions
    of windows installed.

    Ed
     
    Ed Dixon, Apr 24, 2006
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  10. Ed Dixon

    Ed Dixon Guest

    It turns out the prlblem was related to a previous install of Vista. That
    install died and had to be manually removed. A few hidden directories were
    still there and apparently Vista was not smart enough to eiither deal with
    them, or to imform me as to what files were causing a problem.

    It took a third party tool to remove the hidden directores as even Explorer
    security options were not successful. At that point, some hours later,
    Vista had reinstalled.

    Ed
     
    Ed Dixon, Apr 24, 2006
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  11. Ed Dixon

    Ed Dixon Guest

    It turns out the prlblem was related to a previous install of Vista. That
    install died and had to be manually removed. A few hidden directories were
    still there and apparently Vista was not smart enough to eiither deal with
    them, or to imform me as to what files were causing a problem.

    It took a third party tool to remove the hidden directores as even Explorer
    security options were not successful. At that point, some hours later,
    Vista had reinstalled.

    Ed
     
    Ed Dixon, Apr 24, 2006
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    - Bobb - Guest

    Andre:

    All I want to do is change my default boot OS to be " Legacy" ( not
    Vista). I thought quickly edit a file and I now need a GUID ?? So I
    need to boot Vista ( I'm booted on XP right now). Then have the GUID for
    XP. Then run bcdedit ... ??? I went to the online link but I still
    don't get it : What exactly do I need to do to change the order of the
    boot program so that by default it's Not Vista, but "the legacy line of
    text" ? which would then call to my XP boot loader.

    Jeesh ... Why so complicated ? I guess it's so they can multiboot OS'es
    , but who came up with stuff like:
     
    - Bobb -, May 24, 2006
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  13. Andre Da Costa [Extended64], May 24, 2006
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    mikeyhsd Guest

    System Properties, Advanced tab, and Startup button.
    to reach Systrem Properties eszsily, use "windows key" + "Pause/Break" keys







    Andre:

    All I want to do is change my default boot OS to be " Legacy" ( not
    Vista). I thought quickly edit a file and I now need a GUID ?? So I
    need to boot Vista ( I'm booted on XP right now). Then have the GUID for
    XP. Then run bcdedit ... ??? I went to the online link but I still
    don't get it : What exactly do I need to do to change the order of the
    boot program so that by default it's Not Vista, but "the legacy line of
    text" ? which would then call to my XP boot loader.

    Jeesh ... Why so complicated ? I guess it's so they can multiboot OS'es
    , but who came up with stuff like:
     
    mikeyhsd, May 24, 2006
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