Must broadband connection be pppoe?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by btully, Mar 24, 2008.

  1. btully

    btully Guest

    With Vista, I can get internet for my new Dell XPS laptop over the wireless
    connection without doing anything other than selecting the connection. No
    user name or password is needed.

    But to plug in directly into my cable modem, it does not work. Seems to
    require user name and password. But I use Verizon and a Motorola SB5101
    modem and while it is broadband, I did not think it is pppoe. I don't even
    know of any user name or password for my account. Am I wrong, is all
    broadband pppoe?

    My internet connection works just fine without asking for pppoe login info
    when I use my desktop with Windows XP. So, it seems to Vista specific

    Can anyone pooint me in the right direction?
    btully, Mar 24, 2008
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  2. if that modem is a wireless router and you are connecting via wireless
    it means the modem is already connected to your ISP with its internal
    settings and

    the reason you are getting internet only via wireless and not etherenet
    cable is some SETTING on your local area network adapter on Vista
    On the Bridge!, Mar 24, 2008
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  3. To reply to your pppoe question, no

    My connection broadband, is pppoA
    On the Bridge!, Mar 24, 2008
  4. btully

    Chris S. Guest

    It's been my experience here with several flavors of Verizon Broadband that:
    DSL uses some form of Point to Point Protocol (PPP), usually PPPoA
    Early installations of FiOS (Fiber Optic to The Premise) used PPPoE
    PPP over Ethernet. I recently moved, and now FiOS uses DHCP (Ethernet)
    PPP Protocols usually don't care about PW authentication. MAC address...
    Contact your ISP's Tech Support...

    Chris S., Mar 24, 2008
  5. btully

    btully Guest

    Re first reply, thanks, but I originally had wireless router and and it
    worked, now I want to plug into the wireless modem directly sans router and I
    can't connect since I don't think I have a user name and password with my

    Re second reply, also thanks and I guess "pppoa" is some info, but my real
    question is why does vista want a user name and password for broadband access
    when I did not have to do this with XP? I don't think my cable is pppoe, but
    I must be missing somethin obvious.
    btully, Mar 24, 2008
  6. btully

    DanS Guest

    Have you....

    Powered down the modem....
    Powered down the laptop....
    Connected the ethernet....
    Powered up the modem....
    Wait for sync....
    Powered up the laptop....

    In that order ?
    DanS, Mar 25, 2008
  7. btully

    btully Guest

    Thanks, yes, took those basic steps again, same problem. Again, do all
    broadband connections require a user name and password - I though pppoe was
    basically just AOL?
    btully, Mar 25, 2008
  8. btully

    btully Guest

    DanS keyed me to check the adapter card. 2 cards. Wireless adapter card was
    on, non-wireless card was disabled. Duh!
    btully, Mar 25, 2008
  9. btully

    DanS Guest

    DOH !!! Things like that happen all the time.

    It's working though, and that is what matters.
    DanS, Mar 25, 2008
  10. btully

    calico Guest

    In answer to all of you, NO. Broadband can be PPPoE, PPPoA, Statically
    assigned IP, Sticky IP, or straight DHCP, which is DSL over Ethernet. To get
    to these options in Vista, instead of "Connect to a Network", just go to
    "Manage Network Connections". If the NIC is enabled, you will have a Local
    Area Connection. That's the one you're going to want to connect to for cable
    connections. Cable is most generally MAC authenticated, so you don't need a
    username and password. Hope that helps.
    calico, Jul 29, 2008
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