MVP's were are you on this one

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Networking' started by brelade, Aug 4, 2007.

  1. brelade

    brelade Guest

    I have posted this question several times with no takers.

    I am trying to establish a connection to my web server in http, with add new
    network connection, it will only accept an address in ftp.
    Is there a reason why i cannot input an http address.

    With XP in was in my network places, but the ability has been removed in
    Vista.

    I have manage to establish a network connect with my web server by "add
    Network Location", but with Vista I can only find an ftp:// way of uploading
    to my web server with add a network:

    My web site requires to be uploaded with HTTP uploading protocol with FPSE,
    but when I Specify the location of my website following the on screen
    prompts, it will not allow me to input an http address, below are the
    examples given from the wizard during the add network location process

    It gives examples:
    1. \\server\share (Share folder)
    2. http://webserver/share ; (Web share)
    3. ftp://mysite.co.uk (ftp site)

    The address I would like to add is: http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk

    When I try to input http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk ; it returns "the
    folder you entered does not appear to be valid, please choose another".

    Instructions from Microsoft:
    If your domain hosting account has FrontPage Server Extensions (FPSE)
    installed you can upload your web site files in the HTTP Protocol. When FPSE
    is loaded on your account it is recommended that you use HTTP uploads
    exclusively because using FTP at any time may corrupt the FPSE files.

    You must understand that the server processing functionality provided by
    FPSE requires HTTP publishing to deliver that functionality.

    For example if you have a web page form in your Publisher web publication
    that form will only be functional on the server if it's published in HTTP.
    Publisher uses FPSE to deliver the processing functionality to Publisher web
    forms. So if you designed a web form in your web publication you then need to
    have FPSE installed (that's a host support function) and you have to publish
    the web publication in the HTTP protocol.

    I have the http address & login details from my server, i just can't connect
    in http as network connections will not allow me to input the address, is
    ther another way with vista similar to my network connections in XP.

    I am presently uploading in ftp as a stop gap to get it on the web, but need
    this response form to work, which it has done in the past with (XP) but i
    cannot find away to point my site to my server with the address
    http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk

    I have all the info required once the connection is made to upload, but do
    not understand why i just cannot input any address in a new connection

    I am enjoying the Vista experience, but am struggling with the
    subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Any further advice GREATFULY recieved


    Many thanks
     
    brelade, Aug 4, 2007
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  2. Richard G. Harper, Aug 4, 2007
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  3. brelade

    brelade Guest

    Richard, i see where you are coming from however i am now in to the rights &
    wrongs of ftp in Vista general disscussion, some where i don't want to be.

    I am new to Vista, and i have a basic understanding of web design, i posted
    a straightforward question to a problem i am having with creating a
    connection to my server in http.

    My ref has come from Microsoft, which has told me what i need to do, i just
    don't know how to do it in Vista, XP i was ok.

    I am pushing this subject as i am enjoying all that is new with Vista and i
    wish to stick with it, i do not want to go back to XP, if there weren't
    problems in life that didn't need solving then we wouldn't go forward and
    learn.

    If anyone can help a novice then i would be grateful of any advice, always
    willing to try anything once.


    --
    brelade


     
    brelade, Aug 4, 2007
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  4. On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 11:06:00 -0700, brelade
    I see the examples do include service specifiers http: and ftp:, which
    blows out the suggestion I was going to make - that perhaps the
    address field accepts only path info, with the service specified
    somewhere else (Settings, other UI checkboxes or drop-downs in the
    same dialog, etc.).
    That wording is what prompted my suggestion. Does
    ftp://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk work, or do you have to use
    breladecockerspaniels.co.uk ? If using http: to FP extensions, do you
    have to specify some sort of subdirectory, e.g.
    http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk/fpextensions or
    http://fpextensions.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk or something?
    Don't you hate it when you get locked into some proprietary "solution"
    that turns out more difficult to use than the standards it is designed
    to gloss over? Like all that cameraware that hides the fact that your
    camera is really just a generic storage device?
    What happens if you try this through a web browser, such as IE? That
    would seem the most logical interface for http...
    As I mentioned, "http://" and "ftp://" are not addresses, they are
    service specifiers. If your app has already "decided" what service to
    use and expects just an address, these could throw it off.

    Or there may be a setting elsewhere that either blocks http, or is
    where http vs. ftp is selected.

    I don't use FP extensions, so I can't tell you much more than that.

    If you are pitching for visitors on dial-up and/or restrictive
    security settings, you should test your MS Office-spawned pages from
    these environments to assess "bloat" and "buzz" (e.g. do the pages
    permission to run active content in order to load?)

    MS Office is mired in the "pixel-perfect" DTP mindset, which is great
    when you're outputting paper, but a PITA when it comes to slowly
    downloading web pages to be displayed on who-knows-what sort of web
    browser or total available display size.


    The most accurate diagnostic instrument
    in medicine is the Retrospectoscope
     
    cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user), Aug 7, 2007
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  5. brelade

    brelade Guest

    cquirke.

    I have managed to resolve the problem with the following download, which now
    allows me to input an http address in to add a new network connection.

    There is an issue with the lack of inbuilt support for WebDAV in Vista.
    This download will help:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...12-632E-4C04-9382-987622ED1D64&displaylang=en

    Have a look, you may understand more why this is an issue in Vista.

    Many thanks for replying to my question

    Regards
     
    brelade, Aug 7, 2007
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  6. On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 03:34:02 -0700, brelade
    I did, thanks, and links to this article...

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;892211

    ....in response to which, I fed back the following:

    I reached this page from a download page that was also for Vista,
    which is not mentioned in this article. This article speaks of
    "2005", so it's hard to see how this describes 2007 Vista. There's
    also no answer on why an extra download is required for Vista.... the
    dots just aren't joining up, here?


    The most accurate diagnostic instrument
    in medicine is the Retrospectoscope
     
    cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user), Aug 11, 2007
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