MVP's were are you

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by brelade, Aug 4, 2007.

  1. brelade

    brelade Guest

    I have posted this question several times with no takers.

    I am trying to establish a connection to my web server in http, with add new
    network connection, it will only accept an address in ftp.
    Is there a reason why i cannot input an http address.

    With XP in was in my network places, but the ability has been removed in
    Vista.

    I have manage to establish a network connect with my web server by "add
    Network Location", but with Vista I can only find an ftp:// way of uploading
    to my web server with add a network:

    My web site requires to be uploaded with HTTP uploading protocol with FPSE,
    but when I Specify the location of my website following the on screen
    prompts, it will not allow me to input an http address, below are the
    examples given from the wizard during the add network location process

    It gives examples:
    1. \\server\share (Share folder)
    2. http://webserver/share ; (Web share)
    3. ftp://mysite.co.uk (ftp site)

    The address I would like to add is: http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk

    When I try to input http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk ; it returns "the
    folder you entered does not appear to be valid, please choose another".

    Many thanks
     
    brelade, Aug 4, 2007
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    Ian Betts Guest

     
    Ian Betts, Aug 4, 2007
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    Ian Betts Guest

    I would imagine that folk think this is a network question, not a Vista one.
    That said, I would not use that method to upload files to my web site. I use
    FileZilla from www.sourceforge.net. Its an ftp program and easy to use You
    choose the server type.
     
    Ian Betts, Aug 4, 2007
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  4. Why, what is wrong with this method?

    I personally use this Vista method to upload files to my web site.
    Piece of cake, just Copy/Paste the files to the network connection.
    What could be easier?

    Marco
     
    Marco Desloovere, Aug 4, 2007
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    Alias Guest

    Either WSFTP_95 for Windows or gFTP for Ubuntu is much easier than that.
     
    Alias, Aug 4, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    Because it doesn't work with all hosting companies and FTP works with
    all properly configured solutions by all companies.

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    Leythos
    - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
    drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
    (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
    Leythos, Aug 4, 2007
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    Peter Foldes Guest

    Firewall (3rd party),Anti Virus ,Anti Spam any of the preceding can be causing this.Check your Security settings
     
    Peter Foldes, Aug 4, 2007
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  8. brelade

    brelade Guest

    Many thanks for all the replies.

    I take on board the ease in which to upload with network connections,
    (currently am doing it this way), BUT as i mentioned it will only allow an
    ftp address to connect, which is fine for uploading in that format, (web site
    uploads ok), but i have a response form included in my site, and therefore
    the site HAS TO BE in HTTP for the included form to work.

    Peter, i have turned of my firewall, and free version of AVG, still no joy.

    Instructions from Microsoft:
    If your domain hosting account has FrontPage Server Extensions (FPSE)
    installed you can upload your web site files in the HTTP Protocol. When FPSE
    is loaded on your account it is recommended that you use HTTP uploads
    exclusively because using FTP at any time may corrupt the FPSE files.

    You must understand that the server processing functionality provided by
    FPSE requires HTTP publishing to deliver that functionality.

    For example if you have a web page form in your Publisher web publication
    that form will only be functional on the server if it's published in HTTP.
    Publisher uses FPSE to deliver the processing functionality to Publisher web
    forms. So if you designed a web form in your web publication you then need to
    have FPSE installed (that's a host support function) and you have to publish
    the web publication in the HTTP protocol.

    I have the http address & login details from my server, i just can't connect
    in http as network connections will not allow me to input the address, is
    ther another way with vista similar to my network connections in XP.

    I am enjoying the Vista experience, but am struggling with the
    subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Any further advice GREATFULY recieved
     
    brelade, Aug 4, 2007
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    Steve Easton Guest

    Steve Easton, Aug 4, 2007
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    brelade Guest

    I am using MS Publisher 2007, and i am trying to connect to my server
    (1and1.co.uk)

    I am having no peroblem in getting site uploaded and on the the web, but at
    present it is not in the correct format for the response form on my contact
    page to work, all other functions work ok, but i draw your attension the the
    response from Microsoft regarding this form and http.
    I have used wiseftp / filezilla, and an currently uploading to my server via
    add new network connection on my computer, but all in ftp.
     
    brelade, Aug 4, 2007
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  11. The networking guru's hang out in this group:
    microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing

    You are likely to get a better response to your questions there!

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    Regards,

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
     
    Richard Urban, Aug 4, 2007
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    brelade Guest

    Tried there no joy, but will post there as well, i am getting more joy here,
    hopeing someone who is in to web design as well has an answer
     
    brelade, Aug 4, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    FTP is a a method to move files, any file, and it doesn't care about the
    contents. You can upload your RESPONSE FORM via FTP without any problem.

    Now if you wanted to write "I need to fill out my response form using
    FTP and it doesn't work" - that would be true, but then neither would
    drag/drop.

    You need to undstand that you CAN FTP your folder with ALL of your site
    from your computer to your WEB server and it will work, it's just like a
    Drag/Drop....

    Next thing you need to learn is how to write real website code without
    using FP, you can do everything in NotePad also.

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    Leythos
    - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
    drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
    (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
    Leythos, Aug 4, 2007
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    Steve Easton Guest

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    brelade Guest

    You have gone over my head.

    All i know is i am getting error 404 on my "Contact Us" page when i submit
    form, the form has uploaded but will not work, i have contacted my server: no
    joy, i have posted on Publisher new group, no one there knows about Vista and
    how to upload in http, told to post in Vista news group, Vista network
    disscusions no joy there.

    i have done my research with Microsoft and have been told ftp will corrupt
    FPSE, it needs to be in http!!!!!!!!!. AM I THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD that
    has Publisher & response form on it using Vista.

    I am presently uploading in ftp as a stop gap to get it on the web, but need
    this response form to work, which it has done in the past with (XP) but i
    cannot find away to point my site to my server with the address
    http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk

    I have all the info required once the connection is made to upload, but do
    not understand why i just cannot input any address in a new connection

    Again many thanks for your help, but it has to be basic, if i knew about web
    design i would not be using publisher, i would use dreamweaver / FP etc
     
    brelade, Aug 4, 2007
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    brelade Guest

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    Steve Easton Guest

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    Steve Easton Guest

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    Leythos Guest

    Publisher is a graphics program, not a web page layout program.

    As for FTP corrupting - pardon me, but that's BULL-SHIp.

    No person designing websites used Publisher to PUSH content to the site,
    at least not any person that cares.

    FTP IS THE PROPER METHOD AND WORKS NO MATTER WHAT PLATFORM YOU DESIGN
    IN.

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    Leythos
    - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
    drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
    (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
    Leythos, Aug 4, 2007
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    brelade Guest

    Leythos.

    I know Publisher is not a proper web design programe, but it has the ability
    to produce a resonable web site for the novice builder.

    FTP will not work with a form on Publisher, it has to be in http for FPSE to
    work.

    If your domain hosting account has FrontPage Server Extensions (FPSE)
    installed you can upload your web site files in the HTTP Protocol. When FPSE
    is loaded on your account it is recommended that you use HTTP uploads
    exclusively because using FTP at any time may corrupt the FPSE files.

    You must understand that the server processing functionality provided by
    FPSE requires HTTP publishing to deliver that functionality - (from Microsoft)

    I do not dissagree that ftp is the correct format, but unfortunatly with
    publisher & forms in must be http for it to work.

    I either get error 404 or FPSE cannot run from this page.

    Back to the original question: Why can't i input an http address in add a
    new network connection.

    In add new connection it ask's: Specify the location of your website / type
    the address of the web site, ftp location or network location that this
    shortcut will open.

    I don't know if you have tried to add an http address, but when i do it,
    it returns "the folder you entered does not appear to be valid, please
    choose another".

    Cheers
     
    brelade, Aug 4, 2007
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