My statistics show Vista is a winner!

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by PNutts, Oct 15, 2006.

  1. PNutts

    PNutts Guest

    For the last seven days there have been many threads started on this forum.
    For simplicity I rounded the number up to 500 and categorized all of them as
    requests for assistance.

    If you compare that number to 200,000 (the number of downloads allowed by
    Microsoft according to some posters in this forum), there is less than one
    percent (.25%) of the users having problems and posting to this forum. When
    you consider some of those threads are from the same user and some are simply
    comments, the number gets even lower.

    I say that isn't too shabby for a pre-release version of an OS running
    mostly unsupported applications! ;)

    All kidding aside, the nay-sayers that predict doom and gloom shouldn't be
    surprised when ma/pa go to a large box store next January and buy a system
    pre-loaded with Vista using compatible hardware and apps and it works.
    PNutts, Oct 15, 2006
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  2. My feelings exactly. When Vista is installed on a machine with 100%
    compatible hardware the experience should be very pleasing. Too many people
    are installing on marginal hardware just to see what it is like. Then they
    write a review or post here all that is wrong with Vista.

    I take most of the negative comments with a pound of salt, as most of the
    nay sayers do not post their inferior machine specs.

    And, for the record, my motherboard and CPU are about 3 years old (though I
    updated other components) and Vista, at this point, is more that "just
    acceptable". I feel it is almost top notch.



    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

    Quote from George Ankner:
    If you knew as much as you think you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
    Richard Urban, Oct 15, 2006
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  3. PNutts

    pop-muzik Guest

    I agree with Richard. My motherboard is also older. I have older hard
    drives, printer, etc. My Vista works like a charm. I use it every day with
    no complaints. Vista will work fine on older systems with an experienced
    user. I would recommend that the casual user get a 100% compatible or
    pre-loaded machine.
    pop-muzik, Oct 15, 2006
  4. PNutts

    Terry Guest

    I too have an older machine, it is
    emachines M6805 laptop
    only changes from stock config
    flashed bios to M6811 ver ( so it could see the 1 gig mem chip)
    put in 7200 rpm drive 60 gig
    changed cd rw to a nec dvd rw
    This laptop is 3+ years old and gets a 3.4 index score
    it has worked just about perfect through every build of CPP
    it all just works (well hp printer didn't till 5744's drivers)
    I even let my son install some games on vacation and most of them also
    operation flashpoint
    Quake 4
    Terry, Oct 15, 2006
  5. Errm, isn't your stats seriously flawed, in that you do not take into
    account how many of those 200,000 downloaded post here...
    Mark Gillespie, Oct 15, 2006
  6. PNutts

    PowerUser Guest

    I hope you're not involved in hypothesis testing of any kind in real life.
    Your premise is seriously flawed.
    PowerUser, Oct 15, 2006
  7. PNutts

    deebs Guest

    Agreed - it is, in my opinion, a thorough winner.

    Besides were it not so from launch we know that within 6 months it would be.
    deebs, Oct 15, 2006
  8. PNutts

    Boomer Guest

    That's right. After all, who knows how many thousands of people who come
    on here but seldom post because that ran across a posting that covered their
    problem with Vista.
    Boomer, Oct 16, 2006
  9. PNutts

    Kevin Young Guest


    I am running a Lenovo T43 Thinkpad and if you care to check the Lenovo site
    you will see that this PC is a "Vista Ultimate Ready PC". Although sound
    and Windows Media Centre worked fine here on Beta 2 and RC 1, both refused
    to work properly under RC 2. I don't consider myself a nay sayer and would
    personally like to see Vista succeed. But the fact of the matter is that
    some of us with Vista compatible hardware are having problems and hope they
    will be fixed in RTM.

    In case you are wondering, RC 2 was installed first as an upgrade and then
    as a clean install and the outcome was the same with both installs. It is
    great that Vista is running perfectly on your box but don't assume that
    those of us posting about problems are simply a bunch of nay sayers because
    that is wrong! In my case I simply want Vista to work.
    Kevin Young, Oct 16, 2006
  10. Kevin,

    I was just on the Lenovo web site and all I see is that the T43 is that the
    recommended operating system is Windows XP. Can you supply a link to the
    "Vista Ultimate Ready PC" claim, as I was considering this notebook for



    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

    Quote from George Ankner:
    If you knew as much as you think you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
    Richard Urban, Oct 16, 2006
  11. PNutts

    PNutts Guest

    I'm using a T60 that belongs to the company I work for. I've been considering
    installing RC2 just to see how it handles. The thing is built like a tank!
    PNutts, Oct 16, 2006
  12. Kai-Uwe v. d. Ohe, Oct 16, 2006
  13. I kinda second PNutts: if you're not desperately trying
    to save some bucks, then go with the T60. I'm using
    one every day and I couldn't be happier. Even the ATi
    x1300 card drives AeroGlass with all the nifty effects
    nicely on a dual-monitor setup with a total of 2680x2074


    Kai-Uwe v. d. Ohe, Oct 16, 2006
  14. PNutts

    Gene Fitz Guest

    Oh, well here is our issue huh? The "naysayers" or those who don't like
    vista, or are having problems with Vista, readily assume that since they are
    having problems, everyone else is as well.
    And you are right, there is no guarantee that all Vista users come to this
    group and post. But how would this work? Take the number od posts, separate
    by good or bad, divide by the number of people who are actually posting, and
    you will have your more useful number. The good vice bad, in the Vista users
    that have posted.

    That would require a thorough read thought, to omit duplicates and the
    random "Vista sucks!" or "Get a Mac!" post.

    Just a thought
    Gene Fitz, Oct 16, 2006
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    John Barnes Guest

    I agree that someone who buys a new machine with 100% compatible hardware
    and software will be happy, until, they try to install some of their
    inventory of software and hardware. Unless they are new to computing and
    don't have an investment in other hardware and software they might not be so
    happy. Also hope they don't buy the Vista64 version unless they are
    prepared to replace most of their hardware. I did when xp x64 came out and
    all works well on Vista64. Only about 20% of my software will install, even
    though all installed on x64.
    John Barnes, Oct 16, 2006
  16. PNutts

    Kevin Young Guest

    I stand corrected, "Vista Premium Ready" not Vista Ultimate Ready as I
    indicated earlier. My point was that the T43 hardware is indicated to be
    compatible with Vista. For sound and TV to stop working right in RC2 (may
    have been a driver problem) when it worked well in Beta 2 and RC1 was a
    little unsettling. I'm sure it will be resolved though in RTM.

    In terms of the T43, great laptop with no problems. I am very happy with
    it. Miss the driver for my fingerprint reader when running Vista RC1 but
    I'm sure Lenovo will get on to that fairly soon. While RC2 was unsuccessful
    RC1 has been running fairly well on the T43. Performance seems on par with
    Kevin Young, Oct 18, 2006
  17. With TV, do you mean that S-Video out stopped working?
    If so, that sounds like a driver issue. I'm looking forward to
    ATi providing us with a better driver than the one for RC1


    Kai-Uwe v. d. Ohe, Oct 18, 2006
  18. PNutts

    Kevin Young Guest

    I'm using a Happauge WinTV PVR USB2 device. I suspect you are right that it
    is likely a driver.problem but odd that it works fine in Beta 2 and RC1 and
    the problem only showed up in RC2. As I said earlier I'm sure it will be
    resolved in RTM or shortly thereafter.
    Kevin Young, Oct 19, 2006
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