Net Send or Console Message

Discussion in 'Server Networking' started by Scott Micale, Feb 16, 2004.

  1. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    I can't do a Net Send Message nor Console message to
    other clients from any of my XP Pro machines to another
    XP Pro Machine using their computer name. I also can't
    send a message to a XP client for my 2003 server and visa
    versa. I can ping by name and IP both ways on each
    machine though. Any ideas why. I keep getting a error
    message about some recipients may not have recieved the
    message or something of that nature.

    If anyone has any suggestions please reply!

    Thanks a lot!
     
    Scott Micale, Feb 16, 2004
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  2. Hi Scott,

    Is the "Messenger Service" disabled on the recipient machine(s)?

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    Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP], Feb 17, 2004
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  3. Scott Micale

    Guest Guest

    Yep, enable the messenger service. I dont see what else
    would be preventing it.

     
    Guest, Feb 17, 2004
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  4. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    No it is set to enabled and is started. I would fgure if
    I can send via IP address then it would have to be
    started.
     
    Scott Micale, Feb 17, 2004
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  5. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    The Messenger Service is enabled.
     
    Scott Micale, Feb 17, 2004
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  6. Hi Scott,

    So you can send via IP?

    Are the computers in a domain with DNS? WINS? NETBIOS?

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    Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP], Feb 18, 2004
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  7. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    They are in a domain running AD with DNS. No Wins is being used.


     
    Scott Micale, Feb 18, 2004
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  8. Hi Scott,

    Can you net send them messages via computername.domain.ext?

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    Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP], Feb 20, 2004
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  9. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    No I can do that as well if I try a net send pos1.hh.hrm.lan "test".

    This is very odd!

    Hope you have another suggestion!

    Thanks!

     
    Scott Micale, Feb 20, 2004
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  10. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    I tried one other thing as well to see what would happen. If I did a net
    send to myself smicale.hh.hrm.lan ""test" I got the error of couldn't send
    error 2273, but if I did the same thing and just did it as net send smicale
    "test" then I got the message. If I try doing the same thing to pos1 doing
    a net send pos1 "test" then I get error 2136. Hope this gives you more
    info.

    Thanks!

     
    Scott Micale, Feb 20, 2004
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  11. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    I did one other test and found a machine I can send a message to using the
    console and also doing a net send. Not sure why some are working and some
    are not. Is it a DNS issue? Is the messenger service corrupt?

    I am baffled by this one!


     
    Scott Micale, Feb 20, 2004
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  12. Actually, that was the first thing I was looking for. Since it works
    sending to machine.domain.ext then it specifically isn't a DNS issue.

    An error message 2136 is a NIC hardware issue which is very strange since I
    am assuming everything else works normally?

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    Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP], Feb 20, 2004
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  13. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    Yes everything else is working fine, but like I said before I have only
    found 2 machines that I can send a net message to out of 50 machines.


     
    Scott Micale, Feb 20, 2004
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  14. Could it be an issue with your routing device?

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    Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP], Feb 20, 2004
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  15. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    I thought that might be a possibility because some of my clients that I
    don't need to have access the internet or other machines on the other side
    of my router I don't give them a gateway address. But the machines that are
    working do not have gateway addresses either. So I don't think it is a
    routing issue. I ran a netdiag from a client that can't send a message to a
    machine and here are my results. I am not running WINS on my network
    because I have AD with DNS setup. But tell me if you think there is
    something in here that I need to be aware of.

    Computer Name: SMICALE
    DNS Host Name: smicale.hh.hrm.lan
    System info : Windows 2000 Professional (Build 2600)
    Processor : x86 Family 6 Model 11 Stepping 1, GenuineIntel
    List of installed hotfixes :
    KB282010
    KB810217
    KB817778
    KB820291
    KB821253
    KB821557
    KB822603
    KB823182
    KB823559
    KB823980
    KB824105
    KB824141
    KB824146
    KB825119
    KB826939
    KB826942
    KB828028
    KB828035
    KB829558
    KB833407
    Q147222
    Q322011
    Q323255
    Q327979
    Q328310
    Q329048
    Q329115
    Q329170
    Q329390
    Q329441
    Q329834
    Q331953
    Q810243
    Q810565
    Q810577
    Q810833
    Q811493
    Q811630
    Q814033
    Q814995
    Q815021
    Q815485
    Q817287
    Q817606
    Q828026


    Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed
    [WARNING] The net card 'RAS Async Adapter' may not be working because it
    has
    not received any packets.
    [WARNING] The net card '1394 Net Adapter' may not be working because it
    has
    not received any packets.



    Per interface results:

    Adapter : Local Area Connection

    Netcard queries test . . . : Passed

    Host Name. . . . . . . . . : smicale.hh.hrm.lan
    IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.22
    Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
    Default Gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.254.1
    Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.6
    192.168.2.1


    AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed

    Default gateway test . . . : Passed

    NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
    [WARNING] At least one of the <00> 'WorkStation Service', <03>
    'Messenge
    r Service', <20> 'WINS' names is missing.

    WINS service test. . . . . : Skipped
    There are no WINS servers configured for this interface.


    Global results:


    Domain membership test . . . . . . : Passed


    NetBT transports test. . . . . . . : Passed
    List of NetBt transports currently configured:
    NetBT_Tcpip_{01E260FD-95A5-4800-ABEF-82C35F31D18C}
    1 NetBt transport currently configured.


    Autonet address test . . . . . . . : Passed


    IP loopback ping test. . . . . . . : Passed


    Default gateway test . . . . . . . : Passed


    NetBT name test. . . . . . . . . . : Passed
    [WARNING] You don't have a single interface with the <00> 'WorkStation
    Servi
    ce', <03> 'Messenger Service', <20> 'WINS' names defined.


    Winsock test . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed


    DNS test . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed


    Redir and Browser test . . . . . . : Passed
    List of NetBt transports currently bound to the Redir
    NetBT_Tcpip_{01E260FD-95A5-4800-ABEF-82C35F31D18C}
    The redir is bound to 1 NetBt transport.

    List of NetBt transports currently bound to the browser
    NetBT_Tcpip_{01E260FD-95A5-4800-ABEF-82C35F31D18C}
    The browser is bound to 1 NetBt transport.


    DC discovery test. . . . . . . . . : Passed


    DC list test . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed


    Trust relationship test. . . . . . : Passed
    Secure channel for domain 'HTV' is to '\\skynet.hh.hrm.lan'.


    Kerberos test. . . . . . . . . . . : Passed


    LDAP test. . . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed
    [WARNING] Failed to query SPN registration on DC 'skynet.hh.hrm.lan'.


    Bindings test. . . . . . . . . . . : Passed


    WAN configuration test . . . . . . : Skipped
    No active remote access connections.


    Modem diagnostics test . . . . . . : Passed

    IP Security test . . . . . . . . . : Passed
    Service status is: Started
    Service startup is: Automatic
    IPSec service is available, but no policy is assigned or active
    Note: run "ipseccmd /?" for more detailed information


    The command completed successfully

    Thanks!


     
    Scott Micale, Feb 21, 2004
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  16. Hi Scott,

    Here's the problem:
    [WARNING] You don't have a single interface with the <00> 'WorkStation
    Servi
    ce', <03> 'Messenger Service', <20> 'WINS' names defined.

    Does the DNS server have proper entries for the computers that aren't
    working?
    Are they all on the same subnet? (255.255.0.0)

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    Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP], Feb 21, 2004
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  17. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    Yes everyone is on the 255.255.0.0 and everyone is in DNS.
    Thanks!
     
    Scott Micale, Feb 21, 2004
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  18. Hi Scott,

    A few things:
    Make sure the Client for MS Networks in enabled in your NICs properties
    See if changing the speed of your NIC from "Auto" to 100/Full (as an
    example) helps anything
    Try removing the 192.168.2. DNS server from the NICs' configs

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    Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP], Feb 21, 2004
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  19. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    I checked to see if the Microsoft client was there and it is. That is
    installed by default when networking is setup. As for the speed I didn't
    have the option in my NIC properties. I did remove the 192.168.2.1 from my
    dns but that didn't help either. I still don't see why there is a problem
    with the machine I am sending from when I can send to 2 other clients just
    fine. To me it seems like it has to be something with my 2003 servers DNS
    or AD. Wouldn't you think so?


     
    Scott Micale, Feb 23, 2004
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  20. Scott Micale

    Scott Micale Guest

    Reading around on some other newsgroups. Do you think this would have
    anything to do with my computer name and username I log on with are the
    same? My computer name is smicale and I log in usning smicale as the
    username.
    Just a thought!


     
    Scott Micale, Feb 23, 2004
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