networking between vista and xp pro

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Aaron, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. Aaron

    Aaron Guest

    I am trying to figure out how to set up a network between vista & xp pro, Ive
    figured out how to set up file sharing, but I want the 2 computers to be on a
    network also so that I can add users of one computer to have certain
    permissions to folders on the other computer. for example when you right
    click a folder and go to the security settings, and click the add button
    under Groups and user names, and click the locations button I want to be able
    to choose the second computer as a location. Right now I have one user
    account on each computer with the same user name and password, the computers
    are also on the same workgroup. The computer running vista is a laptop with a
    wireless connection to the router and the xp is a desktop that is wired to
    the router.
     
    Aaron, Dec 10, 2007
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  2. Aaron

    Malke Guest

    So what's the problem? Make new users and groups and set your
    permissions. In XP Pro, disable Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View
    tab) and you'll get the Security tab (assuming the drive is formatted
    NTFS). You didn't say what version of Vista you have so I can't address
    that. I don't know if Vista Home/Basic editions allow the fine-grained
    permissions or not (XP Home didn't).

    If you're successfully sharing files, you've already got your network
    set up. You don't need to set up another one just to add users.


    Malke
     
    Malke, Dec 10, 2007
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  3. Some of your requirements sound like roaming profiles which is not a feature
    of Windows client operating systems. If you want to network both computers,
    make sure the following are setup:

    In Windows Vista make sure Network Discovery is enabled under Network and
    Sharing Center
    Both machines have static IP Address
    Both are in the same workgroup
    You firewall is not blocking network discovery
     
    Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin], Dec 10, 2007
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  4. Aaron

    Aaron Guest

    i have vista home premium,
    simple file sharing is disabled in xp
    network discovery is on in vista

    I dont get any options for adding users of compurer 1 on computer 2
    xp shows the vista computer as being internet and not local network
     
    Aaron, Dec 11, 2007
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  5. Aaron

    Malke Guest

    These are two separate problems and you haven't given us enough
    information to help you solve either one of them. You aren't clearly
    describing what you're doing. I'll give you links to help you make a
    newsgroup post and I'll give you networking information, but it may be
    more practical for you to have a computer professional come on-site and
    set you up correctly. I say this not to offend you in any way but simply
    because it may be the easiest solution for you.

    If you want to try and get help from the newsgroup, please don't feel
    turned away. But do go to these links to see what you need to include in
    your next post so we can help you:

    http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 - How to Ask a Question

    To add users to a computer, go to Control Panel>User Accounts and add
    users, then assign passwords. This is done in Vista the same way it was
    done in XP. For networking, see the rather detailed steps below.

    *****

    Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
    applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may
    look daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions
    below systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting
    up your sharing.

    Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
    Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as
    files and folders:

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

    For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
    caveat in Item A below).

    Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally
    caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two
    firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party
    firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on
    all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating
    system does not permit it.

    For XP and Windows 2003 Server, MVP Hans-Georg Michna has an excellent
    small network troubleshooter. It may also be useful with Vista.

    http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm

    Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks:

    A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
    (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
    File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network
    Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only
    "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you
    aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with
    "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a
    firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually
    configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
    192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
    subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.

    B. For ease or organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup.
    This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

    C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do
    not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the
    passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the
    accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. If you
    wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular
    user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at
    this link work for both XP and Vista:

    Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
    http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

    D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center:

    1. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
    Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
    accounts/passwords on all computers.

    2. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
    Simple File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest
    (network) is enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on
    the target system can use its resources. This is a security hole but
    only you can decide if it matters in your situation.

    E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
    home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share
    folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the
    Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about
    Vista sharing.

    F. After you have file sharing working (and have tested this by
    exchanging a file between all machines), if you want to share a printer
    connected locally to one of your computers, share it out from that
    machine. Then go to the printer mftr.'s website and download the latest
    drivers for the correct operating system(s). Install them on the target
    machine(s). The printer should be seen during the installation routine.
    If it is not, install the drivers and then use the Add Printer Wizard.
    *****

    Malke
     
    Malke, Dec 11, 2007
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  6. Aaron

    Aaron Guest

    I'm not sure how I can be more specific on what I am trying to do.
    What is there to not understand that I want to add a user of one computer to
    the other. When I go to sharing and security in either vista or xp and click
    add user and then click locations I only get the location of the computer I
    am currently accessing this menu. I want to be able to log in to the network
    rather than just the computer.
     
    Aaron, Dec 11, 2007
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  7. Aaron

    Malke Guest

    Sorry, but this doesn't make sense. You don't add users that way. You
    add users to each computer so that both computers have the same user
    accounts and passwords on them. You do this from the User Accounts
    applet in Control Panel. You can't add users to Sharing/Security
    (presumably to set permissions/restrictions) until the user accounts
    first exist on the machine.


    Malke
     
    Malke, Dec 12, 2007
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  8. Aaron

    Aaron Guest

    I do have the same user name and password on both computers.

    I just basically want to be able to login like its a real network, i'm not
    sure how the login would appear in vista but in xp u have a network login
    screen where u have 2 press ctrl-alt-del to login and to have full access to
    shared folders through the admin. account but limit access to others. (not
    having to enable full control to Everyone in the permissions)
     
    Aaron, Dec 12, 2007
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  9. Aaron

    Malke Guest

    You're really having a hard time explaining this, aren't you? What does
    "login like its [sic] a real network" *mean*? It *is* a real network!
    Are you talking about wanting to set up a domain? You need a server
    operating system. Are you talking about wanting to have users login with
    something vaguely resembling the Win2k/XP/2003 classic logon box (which
    has nothing to do with networking)?

    You can set fine-grained permissions and restrictions on non-domain
    computers by using the Group Policy Editor (gpedit.msc) on each local
    machine with XP Pro, Vista Business, Vista Enterprise, and Vista
    Ultimate. You don't have gpedit available on Vista Basic, Vista Home
    Premium, and XP Home.

    I'm really sorry that I'm not understanding what you want to do. Maybe
    someone else will be more intuitive about it and can read more into your
    posts than I can. Good luck, and good night.


    Malke
     
    Malke, Dec 12, 2007
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  10. Aaron

    PhilBiker Guest

    If I understand you correctly I believe you may be asking too much from the
    simple Windows networking available in the Windows OSes. Sorry if this
    doesn't help.

    I have networking set up on my home network, and it works great between my
    three computers running Vista Home Basic, Vista Home Premium, and XP
    Professional. But I'm not doing what you're doing.
     
    PhilBiker, Dec 12, 2007
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  11. Aaron

    PhilBiker Guest

    I believe this is the answer for the OP.
     
    PhilBiker, Dec 12, 2007
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  12. Aaron

    Aaron Guest

    What I want to do is login to a network not a computer, via ctrl-alt-del to
    login like a REAL network that you would find in a business or school.

    And I do not want to allow "EVERYONE" access to shared files/folders. Just
    for my user name.
    I dont get why nobody can understand what I am wanting, obviously this isnt
    an american or english speaking website

    Maybe I should just talk to HP to see about an upgrade back to xp, I am
    realy getting tired of not getting any results out of vista, yes I do mean
    UP-GRADE!!
    Or maybe leave microsoft all together.. Linux is starting to sound better
    and better every time I read a reply. I cant believe that microsoft would
    actually charge people to use such a crapy OS they should be paying me.

    No further replies needed unless someone has a real answer
     
    Aaron, Dec 13, 2007
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  13. So I take you have a Dedicated server like a REAL network?
    I have a network with Vista, XP, OS X, Ubuntu and I give
    access to certain things to everyone, something's to others,
    it's all a matter of setting up permissions correctly.
    You just have to know how to do it.
     
    Robert Martin, Dec 13, 2007
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