Networking XP computers w Vista Computers

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Dave B, Jul 21, 2007.

  1. Dave B

    Dave B Guest

    I have just switched to a brand new Vista computer as the primary computer on
    my network. I even got Ultimate to have the best. Now I can't see the other
    computer on the network because it has been determined to be a "has been",
    what with only having XP on it.

    I have searched high and low, talked to people who [should] know, and have
    yet to hear someone explain how it is that MicroSoft, in all of its glory,
    could launch such a major marketing campaign to get us to all sign on to the
    new OS ... they never thought to think that maybe, just maybe ... someone
    somewhere just might want to have an XP computer exist in peace and harmony
    with a Vista computer?????

    Now you're saying that I should call tech support ... fabulous idea, in fact
    I did that very thing ... started with HP cuz it's their computer but "That's
    a Microsoft problem, you gotta call them" ... okie dokie, call Microsoft but
    damned if "HP is supposed to troubleshoot it cuz it came on their computer"
    .... what fun, so call back HP, get a bit pissy, he tries to help, tells me to
    d/l a patch from Microsoft.com, which I do ... the excitement is building,
    we're gonna resolve the problem with a patch, yeah!!! ... re-boot everything
    and .... and ... nothing, nada, nyet. Then he tells me I can pay $69.99 to
    talk to their networking dudes who may or may not be able to help me. So,
    here we are now ........

    I mean, come on now ... let's THINK PEOPLE!!!!!! There needs to be a fix to
    this NOW to let these computers do what they are supposed to do!!! This is a
    step backwards!! This should have been anticipated and worked out PRIOR to
    letting the world buy it and screw up their small network connectivity. I
    doubt if I am the only one that doesn't have the cash to just run out and
    update all my computers and/or operating systems every time MicroSoft decided
    to lauch a new version of Windows!

    Undoubtedly, someone will offer apologies, and ineffectual explanations ...
    bottom line is that this isn't an uncommon thing and I can't think of any
    [rational] argument to convince me that it should not have been taken care of
    before the launch. It doesn't matter if it's a cable problem, OS problem,
    security problem, whatever ... We don't care why it isn't working, just get
    it fixed so it does work!!!!!! You had time to spend moving all the buttons
    around so we get to play hide and seek finding them, the least you could do
    is retain the previous networking functionality!!

    Anyone out there that can shed some light on this ... and more importantly,
    how to overcome this problem ... all in language that us
    non-brilliant-tecchies can understand?????
     
    Dave B, Jul 21, 2007
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  2. Dave B

    DP Guest


    I'm guessing -- purely a guess -- that this is not a Vista problem. My Vista
    computer connects to a network that has an XP computer on it.
    You're right to be pissed that it doesn't work. So far all your venom is
    aimed at MS. But what if the problem lies elsewhere?
     
    DP, Jul 21, 2007
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  3. Dave B

    Dave B Guest

    where else exactly could the problem lie?? All you have to do is read the
    posts to conclude the obvious, it's not just me or anyone else ... whether
    the problem lies in XP or Vista or both, Microsoft should have realized the
    problem and solved it before release, it's a simple thing really!!! They can
    fix both programs with their incessant updates whenever they want, they could
    have solved it without all this hullaballoo!!

    Let's be logical ... I could plug in a new XP computer to another and
    voila!, there it is, we're set to go ... now I do that and I can't even get
    it to work after hours of frustration, endless online chats and rooms, phone
    support from MS and HP, both of whom acknowledge that "there is a known issue
    ...." ... DUH!! FIX IT!!!

     
    Dave B, Jul 21, 2007
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  4. On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:20:01 -0700, Dave B <Dave
    I use network magic to network xp and vista.. no problems.. during
    install, it takes a couple of reboots that setup forgets to tell you
    about.. works great though..
    Chuck (in SC)
     
    Chuck (in SC), Jul 21, 2007
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  5. Seem my post a few posts earlier "Vista & XP Network woes"
     
    Dr. Hackenbush, Jul 21, 2007
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  6. Dave B

    Mike Guest

    Um, they did. It works. Well, it works here. I see Vista machines,
    XP machines and OS X machines from any machine on my network. Wired,
    wireless, makes no difference. They all play together.

    But this is the 2nd post today of someone having problems connecting a
    Vista machine to an XP machine.

    Weird.

    Mike
     
    Mike, Jul 21, 2007
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  7. Dave B

    Mick Guest

    I had this issue - problem solved by MS in article KB922120 which is
    a down-load to place on each XP machine - makes them visible to Vista
    machines allowing a full newtwrok map to be produced.

    Mick

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    Mick, Jul 21, 2007
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  8. Dave B

    Dave B Guest

    Their website description looks promising ... thanks!! Is there anyone else
    with experience, good or bad, with the network magic software (or a
    comparable third party software)??

    I find it absolutely amazing that someone else could come up with a way to
    connect XP to Vista before Microsoft could do it??? Heya Bill ... R&D means
    Research and Development, the implication being that you use that time and
    all the geniuses around the table to actually research the obvious, staring
    you in the your face problems!!

    Then again, this could just be a way to get us to all run out and buy Vista,
    what with all of Microsoft's financial woes of late ... can't you just
    imagine them sitting around the table talking about it and some marketing
    genius says "well, ah, Boss ... if don't let them talk to each other, then
    everyone will just have to go out and buy more Vista ... we'll tell them
    we're improving their experience and making them more secure and they'll just
    do it out of frustration in trying to get us to stop the doublespeak and fix
    it like we shouldda before we released it. I mean, c'mon boss, it's not our
    fault if they can't get the right software on all their computers, eh??

     
    Dave B, Jul 21, 2007
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  9. See my earlier post, i tried network magic, only problem is it only works on
    routet networks, i'm using a crossover cable D'oh
     
    Dr. Hackenbush, Jul 21, 2007
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  10. I d/loaded this patch and put it on my XP machine but the vista machine
    still wont let me access the XP machine
     
    Dr. Hackenbush, Jul 21, 2007
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  11. Yup my post Vista & XP woes, still not working , only one way traffic
     
    Dr. Hackenbush, Jul 21, 2007
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  12. Dave B

    Dave B Guest

    I read your post earlier, I was just feeling ornery and wanting to put a rant
    in the main list of topics ... stirring the pot ya know, bump up the stats.
    I just feel like it was completely irresponsible of MS to ignore the obvious
    here ... pretty logos are nice, moving all the buttons around we can get used
    to, but come on, how can you NOT think about resolving this??? Not one of
    their tecchie geniuses thought of this ... if that's true, it's very sad

     
    Dave B, Jul 21, 2007
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  13. Dave B

    Mick Guest

    Sorry to hear that - worked just fine for me.

    No idea what else to suggest.

    Mick

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    Mick, Jul 21, 2007
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  14. Dave B

    PaulB Guest

    I normally don't reply if I don't have a solution but I have networked two XP
    pro and 1 XP Home with 2 VISTA Home premiums with no problems at all. So it
    is not inherently Vista or XP. I really didn't do anything special.
    --
    Paul


     
    PaulB, Jul 21, 2007
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  15. Dave B

    Dave B Guest

    Well, thanks to Chuck for his answer to the problem ... and kudos to Network
    Magic for being on the ball and solving obvious problems that Microsoft
    doesn't seem to be able to conquer. They deserve the business for staying on
    top, that's how it's done!!!!

    I am not completely done setting this up, but so far it is quite impressive
    in the way it completely takes over your network settings and puts it all in
    a convenient screen where you can understand what you are doing and how to
    make stuff work!!!!

    www.networkmagic.com free 7 day full trial, I downloaded with no problems,
    re-booted and it works just like back in the old days when XP worked. To me
    it's worth the money

    Thanks again Chuck


     
    Dave B, Jul 21, 2007
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  16. Dave B

    noaim Guest

    I have xp and vista same network no issues so who knows what ur problem is.



     
    noaim, Jul 21, 2007
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  17. thats exactly what i'm trying to find out

     
    Dr. Hackenbush, Jul 21, 2007
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  18. I appreciate yours and everybodys help and suggestions, i'm just wondering
    if a clean re-install of XP might help just in case something somewhere is
    corrupt , the Vista was a new clean install so that should be ok, nothing to
    lose everything to gain ! possibly
     
    Dr. Hackenbush, Jul 21, 2007
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  19. Dave B

    noaim Guest

    I'm very happy it works for you although I'm still reluctant to purchase a
    software for something that windows already does. It was just a matter of
    fixing it in your case cause everyone that I have talked to so far sais they
    have no problems networking windows vista and xp together.




     
    noaim, Jul 21, 2007
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  20. Dave B

    Mick Murphy Guest

    In Vista>Networking>Networking and Sharing>
    1. Network Discovery ON
    2 File Sharing ON
    3 Password Protect OFF

    You can figure the rest out smartarse!


     
    Mick Murphy, Jul 21, 2007
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