new HP laptop with Vista Ultimate automatically turns itself on from being completely off

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by deessedelamour, Sep 4, 2007.

  1. I just bought a new, custom HP laptop but it seems to have its own
    personality. I'm running Vista Ultimate and haven't yet had a chance
    to go through it and figure out all of the possible settings. My
    problem is that my computer turns itself on, bypasses the logon/
    required password stage, completely loads the desktop by itself from a
    state of being completely off and unplugged. It has done this a
    couple times now from the standby stage with the top closed,
    prohibiting a misc. object to trigger the sensor to wake up. I
    thought at first it might have been because the battery was low and it
    was turning on from standy to tell me to charge it, but the battery
    has been almost full. Though curious, I have brushed this phenomenon
    off because I have more important things to concentrate on these days
    than figuring this quirk out.

    However, today, it turned itself on, with the top closed, again
    bypassed the fingerprint and required password logon and loaded the
    desktop from being completely off. This is a little strange and
    discomforting, as I'm afraid I may have to return it to the factory
    and wait for another one and I simply don't have the time for that.

    My question is, are there timer settings in Vista that would cause the
    computer to turn on like this? I have "windows automatic update"
    turned off, though I'm certain something so trivial couldn't have done
    this to begin with. Other than that, I can't think of a possible
    explanation.

    Anyone with suggestions, please help...time is of the essence.
     
    deessedelamour, Sep 4, 2007
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    David Guest

    No suggestion, but a question: are you SURE that your laptop isn't
    hibernating, rather than being turned off?

    Dave
     
    David, Sep 4, 2007
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    David Guest

    err, sleeping, that is.
     
    David, Sep 4, 2007
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  4. completely sure...set it to "shut down" and it was off all
    night...more than 12 hours...not a light on the computer was on, not a
    sound of running, nothing until about an hour ago when it magically
    started.
     
    deessedelamour, Sep 4, 2007
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    David Guest

    If that is actually the case, then Vista has nothing to do
    with the restart. The BIOS (or the power button) is the only
    thing that can start it since the operating system is not
    even in memory.

    David
     
    David, Sep 5, 2007
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    John Barnes Guest

    Have you checked your BIOS for wakeup events. Nothing explains the
    bypassing of the sign on.
     
    John Barnes, Sep 5, 2007
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  7. First off, thank you both so much for your help!

    Second, it appears that I am going to have to take a look at the BIOS
    no matter what. I was hoping to avoid this as I am wary of making a
    mistake due to my limited knowledge. I wasn't even aware that there
    could be such a thing as a wakeup event...I will research this more
    and post the results. Here's hoping...
     
    deessedelamour, Sep 5, 2007
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    NoStop Guest

    Probably a wakeup on LAN setting. Turn that off in the BIOS.

    Cheers.

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    NoStop, Sep 5, 2007
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  9. Ok, here's my update:

    To cover all my bases, I contacted HP via chat through their website
    and then through email after the chat proved overwhelmingly
    frustrating. I was told several different things and given several
    different solutions, the main being to perform a "Startup Repair"
    through the BIOS. At first, they said that my computer turned on due
    to stored static charges and that I needed to perform a "power
    drain". I found this difficult to believe and it also didn't explain
    how it bypassed the logon. Then they said my fingerprint software was
    malfunctioning and I needed to reinstall it. However, this didn't
    explain how I could use the sensor to logon both before and after this
    incident. Finally, they said my BIOS was corrupted. After the tips
    in this forum and HP's advice to look at the BIOS, I did just that. I
    did the startup repair but it didn't show any problems. I then went
    back into the BIOS to look for the wake-on LAN option but didn't find
    anything of that sort. From what I've read, my model has a limited
    BIOS...a new thing they are doing, if I read it correctly.

    Finally, they told me to update my BIOS, though I have the latest
    update already.

    I am frustrated to no end about this but cannot afford to waste more
    time on it until next month, at which point I hope to make some head
    way regarding the possibility of wake events. I found this old
    article about the setting for "wake-up on LAN" which seemed to be spot
    on:

    http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-1035_11-5058195.html

    Now I just need to find that in the BIOS...
     
    eleanor.mcneil, Sep 5, 2007
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  10. Ok, here's my update:

    To cover all my bases, I contacted HP via chat through their website
    and then through email after the chat proved overwhelmingly
    frustrating. I was told several different things and given several
    different solutions, the main being to perform a "Startup Repair"
    through the BIOS. At first, they said that my computer turned on due
    to stored static charges and that I needed to perform a "power
    drain". I found this difficult to believe and it also didn't explain
    how it bypassed the logon. Then they said my fingerprint software
    was
    malfunctioning and I needed to reinstall it. However, this didn't
    explain how I could use the sensor to logon both before and after
    this
    incident. Finally, they said my BIOS was corrupted. After the tips
    in this forum and HP's advice to look at the BIOS, I did just that.
    I
    did the startup repair but it didn't show any problems. I then went
    back into the BIOS to look for the wake-on LAN option but didn't find
    anything of that sort. From what I've read, my model has a limited
    BIOS...a new thing they are doing, if I read it correctly.

    Finally, they told me to update my BIOS, though I have the latest
    update already.

    I am frustrated to no end about this but cannot afford to waste more
    time on it until next month, at which point I hope to make some head
    way regarding the possibility of wake events. I found this old
    article about the setting for "wake-up on LAN" which seemed to be
    spot
    on:

    http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-1035_11-5058195.html

    Now I just need to find that in the BIOS...
     
    deessedelamour, Sep 5, 2007
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  11. Eleanor

    It may also be called "Remote wake up" in some Bios settings. Take a look at
    the following website for some good information on this subject.

    Wake-on-LAN:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN
     
    Ronnie Vernon MVP, Sep 5, 2007
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  12. Not sure if this is relevant, but my computer connects using WiFi. I
    have read that WoL can happen through WiFi but there are also people
    who say it can't. Either way, perhaps it is a stupid question, but
    since I can't find anything relevant to LAN or wake-up in the BIOS,
    could simply disabling the wireless before I turn the computer off
    stop this problem?
     
    deessedelamour, Sep 5, 2007
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  13. posted to
    microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
    Neither you nor us will know until you try it and report back.
     
    quiettechblue, Sep 22, 2007
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    Johnny Guest

    Is it a DV series HP Laptop? If it his, you might want to look at the
    quickplay buttons. They will turn your laptop on from a powered off
    status. In my case if you have a kitty that loves to walk on your
    lappy, it is easily explained.
     
    Johnny, Oct 5, 2007
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    Johnny Guest

    Ooh , that's a good one too!
     
    Johnny, Oct 5, 2007
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    ThomThom Guest

    Do you have a remote control for your laptop?
    I also have a HP computer dv2000 w/remote and it sometimes turnes itself on
    due to reactions from other remotes (specfically when i press the guide
    button on my xbox 360 remote). Could this be the cause?
     
    ThomThom, Oct 17, 2007
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    deesse Guest

    To answer a few of the questions:

    -I have a DV6000 and though the quickplay buttoms are over-sensitive (a
    mere gust of wind can trigger them), my laptop was completely closed
    when it turned on, so I guess that rules that out.

    -As for a remote being the cause, I do have a remote for the laptop but
    I was reading when it turned on so that also rules that out.

    For my own update:

    I haven't had any issues with the computer starting up on its own since
    the start of this thread. I wish I could give a definitive answer as to
    what "cured" the problem, but I didn't make any hardware changes, so I
    don't know. The only change, though perhaps the most important, is
    that I moved and no longer have WiFi in the house. I can only assume
    at the end of the day that it was the WOL.

    I have, however, had many unrelated issues since with the fingerprint
    scanner and quickplay buttons but I guess that's all for a different
    topic.

    Hope this helped.
     
    deesse, Dec 13, 2007
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    brangran Guest

    I have the Exact same problem. It is frustrating to me because I canno
    just leave my laptop unplugged from the power because it comes on b
    itself and then drains the battery. And also a few times whenever I hav
    taken it to class in my backpack, I will take it out and its running an
    usually very warm due to being enclosed. My bios, OS, and everythin
    else is up to date
     
    brangran, Sep 19, 2008
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    cqui3 Guest

    Do you have a setting in the BIOS to resume after power interrupt ?
    I have that on my desktop. I disabled it.
    I do not know if it exists in laptops.
     
    cqui3, Sep 20, 2008
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    Beoweolf Guest

    You need to investigate/review/ reconfigure your power settings. Screen
    saver settings > Power management. I would suspect your are not shutting
    down your lap top, merely allowing it to go into hibernation.

    Your OS does detect whether your system is PC or Lap Top (docked/undocked),
    not much into Dell default settings, so you'll need to investigate that
    part.
     
    Beoweolf, Sep 21, 2008
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