New install on HD with Recovery Partition- Main Partition D?

Discussion in 'Server Setup' started by Scott Townsend, Jul 17, 2007.

  1. I have a new PC that has 2 Partitions on the Drive. One is the preinstalled
    WinXP OS and the other is the Service Partition that I can use to restore to
    factory contents.

    I's like to install Win2003R2 onto the machine. When I get to the Select
    Partition, I am prompted with:

    D: Partition 1 (Preload) 147GB
    C: Partition 2 (Service) 4GB

    I want to install on Partition 1, though I don't want the Win2003 to be
    based on D: Drive.

    What can I do to change it at the install point rather then after?

    Thanks,
    Scott<-
     
    Scott Townsend, Jul 17, 2007
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  2. Scott Townsend

    John John Guest

    You can't change that. Also, unless you blow away Windows XP or use a
    partitioning tool to create a new partition on the disk, you don't have
    a necessary partition to install Server 2003, you cannot (should not)
    install more than one operating system per partition.

    If you don't want to completely screw up or lose your current operating
    system and the recovery partition my advice to you would be to buy a
    second hard disk and install it in the computer and install Server 2003
    on the new disk. If you really want or need Server 2003 on C:\ then
    disconnect the first hard drive while you install Server 2003. You can
    bring the disk back online after the installation and adjust the
    boot.ini file to allow booting to either or of the operating systems.

    John
     
    John John, Jul 17, 2007
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  3. Maybe I didn't make myself clear.

    So the Win2003 Setup shows:
    D: Partition 1 (Preload) 147GB
    This has the preload Lenovo WinXP.
    I don't want it, I want to install Win2003 Here and blow away what is
    there.

    C: Partition 2 (Service) 4GB
    This is the Recovery/diag Partition that if I want to restore factory
    defaults, it will blow away Partition 1 and put it back to factory defaults.

    So I don't want XP on the machine at all. Though When I'm done with the
    Win2003 Stuff and want to retire this PC to some needy home user. It would
    be nice to have the Service/Recovery Partition to restore Portion 1 back to
    Factory Preinstall.


    It seems in the Past that if I blow away the D: Partition 1 (Preload) 147GB
    from the Win2003 Setup, and Create a new Partition, it will use D again and
    install on D and not C.

    Does that make sense?

    Thanks,
    Scott<-=
     
    Scott Townsend, Jul 17, 2007
    #3
  4. Scott Townsend

    John John Guest

    Start the Server 2003 setup and format the XP partition then reboot and
    restart the Server 2003 setup program, does it still show Partition 1 as
    D? What is the active status of the partitions?

    John
     
    John John, Jul 17, 2007
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  5. Partition 1 is C and is the Service Partition
    Partition 2 is D the 147GB Empty Formatted Partition

    How do I get the Status of the Partitions? Recovery Console?

    Thanks
     
    Scott Townsend, Jul 17, 2007
    #5
  6. Scott Townsend

    John John Guest

    I think you should be able to set the active partition with the diskpart
    utility in the Recovery Console, but diskpart is not exactly intuitive
    to use. You can use BootItNG partitioning tool to change the active
    flag on the partitions, it is relatively simple and easy to use. You
    may also be able to do it with fdisk on a Windows 98 startup disk.

    John
     
    John John, Jul 17, 2007
    #6
  7. If you boot up on a WinPE disk with diskpart.exe on it, you can then use
    diskpart to change attribute on a volume, if you change it to "hidden" it
    will not show up anymore
    Please read more about this command here.
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/840781
     
    Mikael Nystrom [MVP], Jul 17, 2007
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  8. So the DISKPART command in the Recovery console is the partition util that
    you see when you are installing the Win2003 OS, not the same one that you
    get from the OS command prompt.

    Looks like I'll need to build that WinPE disk after all. (-;

    Thanks,
    Scott<-
     
    Scott Townsend, Jul 17, 2007
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  9. That's correct, you should build your WinPE anyway, its going to be the
    master toolkit in the future...
     
    Mikael Nystrom [MVP], Jul 17, 2007
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  10. My day is going so well I think I need to go home...

    Got the WinPE disk built, booted from it. Ran DiskPart like I know and love.
    Did a List Partitions and saw 3 Partitions.
    144gb extended
    144gb logical
    4gb Primary

    did the select part 0, delete part, Gave an error saying that it was not
    empty.
    Did a select part 1, delete part, select part 0, delete part. Says its still
    not empty!

    They were not listed in portion order.

    Partition 0 144gb extended
    Partition 2 144gb logical
    Partition 1 4gb Primary

    I deleted the partition I intended to save! #&*()(*%#[email protected]

    Think I'm done for the Day!
     
    Scott Townsend, Jul 17, 2007
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  11. Scott Townsend

    John John Guest

    Call Lenovo and tell them that you need a set of recovery cd's, tell
    them that the service partition got damaged. If the machine is still
    under warranty they should send you a set for free. Blow everything off
    the hard disk and install Server 2003. When you get the cd's keep them
    near to the computer, when you dispose of the machine include the
    recovery cd's with the machine.

    John
     
    John John, Jul 18, 2007
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  12. To remove the extended partition you need to remove the logical first, the
    logical is a part of the extended partition. Its like good old "DOS" days.
    So first delete part 2, then delete part 0. Then create part 1. This is what
    you would have done to make it right. But like "John John" says, call Lenovo
    an try to get recovery CD's
     
    Mikael Nystrom [MVP], Jul 18, 2007
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  13. Thanks all guys' information and experience sharing.

    Thanks & Regards,

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    | To remove the extended partition you need to remove the logical first,
    the
    | logical is a part of the extended partition. Its like good old "DOS"
    days.
    | So first delete part 2, then delete part 0. Then create part 1. This is
    what
    | you would have done to make it right. But like "John John" says, call
    Lenovo
    | an try to get recovery CD's
    |
    | --
    | Mikael Nystrom
    | MCP, MCDST, MCT, MVP Windows Server - Setup/Deployment
    |
    | | > My day is going so well I think I need to go home...
    | >
    | > Got the WinPE disk built, booted from it. Ran DiskPart like I know and
    | > love. Did a List Partitions and saw 3 Partitions.
    | > 144gb extended
    | > 144gb logical
    | > 4gb Primary
    | >
    | > did the select part 0, delete part, Gave an error saying that it was
    not
    | > empty.
    | > Did a select part 1, delete part, select part 0, delete part. Says its
    | > still not empty!
    | >
    | > They were not listed in portion order.
    | >
    | > Partition 0 144gb extended
    | > Partition 2 144gb logical
    | > Partition 1 4gb Primary
    | >
    | > I deleted the partition I intended to save! #&*()(*%#[email protected]
    | >
    | > Think I'm done for the Day!
    | >
    | > | >> That's correct, you should build your WinPE anyway, its going to be
    the
    | >> master toolkit in the future...
    | >>
    | >> --
    | >> Mikael Nystrom
    | >> MCP, MCDST, MCT, MVP Windows Server - Setup/Deployment
    | >>
    | >> | >>> So the DISKPART command in the Recovery console is the partition util
    | >>> that you see when you are installing the Win2003 OS, not the same one
    | >>> that you get from the OS command prompt.
    | >>>
    | >>> Looks like I'll need to build that WinPE disk after all. (-;
    | >>>
    | >>> Thanks,
    | >>> Scott<-
    | >>> | >>>> If you boot up on a WinPE disk with diskpart.exe on it, you can then
    | >>>> use diskpart to change attribute on a volume, if you change it to
    | >>>> "hidden" it will not show up anymore
    | >>>> Please read more about this command here.
    | >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/840781
    | >>>> --
    | >>>> Mikael Nystrom
    | >>>> MCP, MCDST, MCT, MVP Windows Server - Setup/Deployment
    | >>>>
    | >>>> | >>>>>I think you should be able to set the active partition with the
    | >>>>>diskpart utility in the Recovery Console, but diskpart is not
    exactly
    | >>>>>intuitive to use. You can use BootItNG partitioning tool to change
    the
    | >>>>>active flag on the partitions, it is relatively simple and easy to
    use.
    | >>>>>You may also be able to do it with fdisk on a Windows 98 startup
    disk.
    | >>>>>
    | >>>>> John
    | >>>>>
    | >>>>> Scott Townsend wrote:
    | >>>>>
    | >>>>>> Partition 1 is C and is the Service Partition
    | >>>>>> Partition 2 is D the 147GB Empty Formatted Partition
    | >>>>>>
    | >>>>>> How do I get the Status of the Partitions? Recovery Console?
    | >>>>>>
    | >>>>>> Thanks
    | >>>>>> | >>>>>>
    | >>>>>>> Start the Server 2003 setup and format the XP partition then
    reboot
    | >>>>>>> and restart the Server 2003 setup program, does it still show
    | >>>>>>> Partition 1 as D? What is the active status of the partitions?
    | >>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>> John
    | >>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>> Scott Townsend wrote:
    | >>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>> Maybe I didn't make myself clear.
    | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>> So the Win2003 Setup shows:
    | >>>>>>>> D: Partition 1 (Preload) 147GB
    | >>>>>>>> This has the preload Lenovo WinXP.
    | >>>>>>>> I don't want it, I want to install Win2003 Here and blow away
    | >>>>>>>> what is there.
    | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>> C: Partition 2 (Service) 4GB
    | >>>>>>>> This is the Recovery/diag Partition that if I want to restore
    | >>>>>>>> factory defaults, it will blow away Partition 1 and put it back
    to
    | >>>>>>>> factory defaults.
    | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>> So I don't want XP on the machine at all. Though When I'm done
    with
    | >>>>>>>> the Win2003 Stuff and want to retire this PC to some needy home
    | >>>>>>>> user. It would be nice to have the Service/Recovery Partition to
    | >>>>>>>> restore Portion 1 back to Factory Preinstall.
    | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>> It seems in the Past that if I blow away the D: Partition 1
    | >>>>>>>> (Preload) 147GB from the Win2003 Setup, and Create a new
    Partition,
    | >>>>>>>> it will use D again and install on D and not C.
    | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>> Does that make sense?
    | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>> Thanks,
    | >>>>>>>> Scott<-=
    | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>> Scott Townsend wrote:
    | >>>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>>> I have a new PC that has 2 Partitions on the Drive. One is the
    | >>>>>>>>>> preinstalled WinXP OS and the other is the Service Partition
    that
    | >>>>>>>>>> I can use to restore to factory contents.
    | >>>>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>>> I's like to install Win2003R2 onto the machine. When I get to
    the
    | >>>>>>>>>> Select Partition, I am prompted with:
    | >>>>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>>> D: Partition 1 (Preload) 147GB
    | >>>>>>>>>> C: Partition 2 (Service) 4GB
    | >>>>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>>> I want to install on Partition 1, though I don't want the
    Win2003
    | >>>>>>>>>> to be based on D: Drive.
    | >>>>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>>> What can I do to change it at the install point rather then
    | >>>>>>>>>> after?
    | >>>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>> You can't change that. Also, unless you blow away Windows XP
    or
    | >>>>>>>>> use a partitioning tool to create a new partition on the disk,
    you
    | >>>>>>>>> don't have a necessary partition to install Server 2003, you
    | >>>>>>>>> cannot (should not) install more than one operating system per
    | >>>>>>>>> partition.
    | >>>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>> If you don't want to completely screw up or lose your current
    | >>>>>>>>> operating system and the recovery partition my advice to you
    would
    | >>>>>>>>> be to buy a second hard disk and install it in the computer and
    | >>>>>>>>> install Server 2003 on the new disk. If you really want or
    need
    | >>>>>>>>> Server 2003 on C:\ then disconnect the first hard drive while
    you
    | >>>>>>>>> install Server 2003. You can bring the disk back online after
    the
    | >>>>>>>>> installation and adjust the boot.ini file to allow booting to
    | >>>>>>>>> either or of the operating systems.
    | >>>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>> John
    | >>>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>>
    | >>>>>>
    | >>>>>
    | >>>>
    | >>>
    | >>
    | >
    |
    |
     
    Ken Zhao [MSFT], Jul 18, 2007
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  14. Yeah I'll call them. Just tape them to the inside of the case. (-;

    Win2003 is installed...

    Thanks again!
     
    Scott Townsend, Jul 19, 2007
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