Newest updates causing me a lot of problems

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by HartsVideo, Jun 25, 2006.

  1. HartsVideo

    HartsVideo Guest

    I have Windows XP Pro. For the past few weeks, Microsoft updates have been
    causing me serious problems. Today, RegSeeker quit working right after I
    downloaded and installed the new Microsoft updates. I did a system restore
    to a restore point that I created prior to installing the updates and
    RegSeeker worked fine again.

    Two weeks ago, the updates caused my pc to not fully boot. I had to boot
    into Safe Mode and uninstall the updates and my pc worked fine again.

    Last week the updates caused my pc to drag along as if it were 15 yrs old
    and everything was choppy. I did another system restore to a point prior to
    the updates being installed and my pc worked fine again.

    Today the new updates that I downloaded and installed caused RegSeeker to
    stop working and maybe other programs wouldn't have worked, but I didn't try
    to run any others to see. If it weren't for the fact that I wanted to spend
    today getting my pc in shape, which included running RegSeeker, I wouldn't
    have known that today's updates caused program(s) to stop working and it
    might have been too late for me to do a System Restore in a few weeks because
    all restore points prior to today would no longer have been in my pc.

    What's going on with Microsoft's updates? All they're causing is serious
    problems for me! I have a registered version of Windows so I shouldn't have
    any problems with the updates.

    Denise
     
    HartsVideo, Jun 25, 2006
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  2. Yes I to am having problems since the last update only!

    My Firefox works then stops working - I want click on to load a message from
    my e-mail account - nothing happens; the touch pad works then stops working;
    I can tap it then the tapper no longer works?

    More things are happening I guess roll back the install, and say here OK
    please fix this

    Thanks Glenn Strazds
     
    Glenn Strazds, Jun 25, 2006
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  3. HartsVideo

    Dorre Guest

    At this time I think buying Windows XP Prof. was a waste of money and TIME!
    Since the purchase (complete system) it took me one month and a half to get
    all software running without conflicts. A short moment of joy, as everything
    was running fast, stable and surfing on the net was faster than ever.
    But then... an automatic update f####d the system.
    Booting ok, but as soon as internet connection is made, everything is a drag.
    Surfing is no fun anymore, as it sometimes takes more than a minute just to
    open a website.
    Restoring to a point prior to the update is useless, no matter how far in
    history I go back. I guess some systemfiles were overwritten.
    This really s###s.
    I tried to seek answers to the problem on the net (with mmmmmmuch patience),
    but none found.
    Thanks a lot Microsoft.

    Where can I find software that (actually) finds and repairs errors in my
    Windows XP prof. system?
     
    Dorre, Jun 25, 2006
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  4. HartsVideo

    HartsVideo Guest

    Dorre, this might help. If you go into Control Panel > Add/Remove New
    Programs and place a check mark in the box of the window that opens at the
    top to display updates, the updates that were installed will show up. You
    can highlight them and then click on them to remove any or all updates that
    Microsoft installed. If you want to turn off automatic updates (I did),
    Start > Control Panel > Security Center, and on the options on the left,
    choose "Change the way Security Center alerts me." Uncheck all three boxes,
    and also click on the large words Automatic Updates and turn it off.

    There is a risk to doing this. You'll no longer get updates that can
    protect your computer. I've found other methods that protect my computer
    that work better than Microsoft updates and Windows Firewall. I turned off
    Windows Firewall and downloaded and installed Sygate Firewall which works
    much better. I also installed several adware/malware/anti-virus programs.
    BitDefender v 8 (free version), AdAware, SpyBot, a-squared, McAfee Stinger,
    CW Shredder and Windows Defender. I also remove a lot of unneeded/obsolete
    files with RegSeeker (free). I've used these programs for about 1-2 years
    and I've had no problems with any of them.

    If you install Sygate, you'll be surprised at the number of cookies that are
    placed in your pc without your knowledge. Windows firewall lets them through
    without you knowing it. Sygate will ask you if you want to allow the
    cookied. If it's a site that you use often, you can check "always allow" and
    it'll never ask you again. If it's a site that you never want to receive a
    cookie, you can check "never allow". If it's a site that you're not sure
    about, you can check "don't allow" but not check the box to have Sygate
    always take that action.

    All of the names of the programs will show up when you Google them. I like
    to go to MajorGeeks for programs because I then know that they're safe.
    There are a lot more programs out there but I was selective and I also wanted
    programs that I didn't have to buy.

    I also take advantage of the free on-line scans:

    TrendSysClean (takes a couple of hours) http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

    Trojan Scan http://www.windowsecurity.com/trojanscan/

    If all else fails or if you don't want to do the above, you can uninstall
    and reinstall Windows XP Pro.

    Denise

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    HartsVideo, Jun 25, 2006
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  5. Michael Jennings, Jun 25, 2006
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  6. HartsVideo

    HartsVideo Guest

    Ghost, Acronis and BootItNG are programs that I'd consider and I'm going to
    look into them. I use EmergencyUtils and have msconfig, regedit and taskmgr
    to fall back on, so imaging is important and I'm glad you mentioned it.

    I personally think tha Guided Help at Microsoft is like handing Daniel to
    the lions. Tweaks just aren't going to help. System Restore by Microsoft
    should have restored my pc to exactly the way it was when I created the
    restore point but it didn't because it wanted some files to remain in my pc.
    Microsoft isn't out to help others, only itself. I've found it to be
    untrustworthy and I'll rely on other means before I think about turning to
    Microsoft's programs and products.

    Denise

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    HartsVideo, Jun 25, 2006
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  7. HartsVideo

    KC Guest

    The slowness is attributed to the WUPDATE.EXE causing 100% CPU utilization.
    It shows as SVCHOST.EXE causing the high CPU but the WUPDATE.EXE thread is
    what's causing the SVCHOST.EXE to spike. Disable the Automatic Updates and
    it will return to normal. When there are new updates, just run it manually.
    Trust me, I have been pissed about this too but I found it running CPU
    Watcher.
     
    KC, Jun 25, 2006
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  8. MS has decided to show consideration for the user in making it
    simple to complete procedures to fix things that are complex manually.
    Unless there's a catch or gotcha, this seems like an improvement.

    You need to boot from the Ghost CD to restore the system drive.
    Terabyte's BootItNG wants a small Fat32 partition; their BootItNG
    beats their Image for Windows. I haven't used Acronis; Galen likes it:
    http://kgiii.info/windows/all/advanced/image-clone.html
    All of them require that you make an image to restore from
    which can not be stored in the partition they're backing up.
     
    Michael Jennings, Jun 25, 2006
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  9. HartsVideo

    HartsVideo Guest

    When I disabled automatic updates, my pc's performance didn't improve.
    a-squared gave me a message that said: "WgaTray.exe - While executing, the
    program a² detected a possible malicious behavior. The program tries to
    invisibly download and install files from the internet. I Googled it and
    found this thread:

    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16220001~mode=flat

    I rebooted my pc and told a-squared to delete the file. My pc runs even
    faster now.

    I was wondering why I received no response to this post from a pro. You all
    ought to be ashamed of yourselves. I was having problems with my pc and not
    one of you told me it was due to spyware that was downloaded and installed in
    my pc under the guise of a security fix. I feel like my own dog bit me!

    I won't be back to Microsoft forums again. I'll go to MajorGeeks or
    GeeksToGo for honest answers to my questions and pc problems.

    Goodbye,and I'm brushing the dirt off the bottom of my feet as I leave.

    Denise

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    HartsVideo, Jun 26, 2006
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  10. Hi Denise,

    I'm one of the Guided Help developers and I'd like to hear more about
    why you feel Guided Help is "handing Daniel to the lions". Can you
    tell me a little more?

    Thanks,
    James
     
    jamesfinnigan, Jun 27, 2006
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  11. HartsVideo

    NOTvalid Guest

    There are a lot more programs out there but I was selective and I also wanted
    programs that I didn't have to buy. ...
    I also take advantage of the free on-line scans: ...
    TrendSysClean (takes a couple of hours)
    http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

    I thought that HouseCall was not working properly, that it was freezing
    up/

    While Googling I cam across above.

    Can it REALLY take HOURS?

    I only have a ten gig drive.

    Please reply in NG
     
    NOTvalid, Jun 27, 2006
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  12. HartsVideo

    HartsVideo Guest

    No, it doesn't take 10 hours. The time bar goes up and down and I have a 40G
    hd and it took about 2 hrs.

    I've been using MajorGeeks Forum for years also. They gave me these
    procedures to follow and they're very thorough. Some scans take 15 mins,
    others take up to 2 hrs, but I now know for sure that I have no viruses,
    trojans, malicious spyware, etc. This is what they gave me:

    Quote: I think you should go HERE:
    READ & RUN ME FIRST Before Asking for Support
    http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=35407

    Follow ALL the steps and then post HERE:
    Malware Removal
    http://forums.majorgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=35

    You'll have to register with them first as you did here. They'll answer all
    your questions, even if it puts Microsoft in a bad light. They're very
    knowledgeable and computer gurus. Good luck.

    Denise

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    HartsVideo, Jun 27, 2006
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  13. HartsVideo

    metarhyme Guest

    metarhyme, Jun 27, 2006
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  14. Hey Denise, James Finnigan is hoping that you'll respond to his question
    regarding your doubts about his baby, Guided Help, if you have time.
     
    Michael Jennings, Jun 27, 2006
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  15. HartsVideo

    Dorre Guest

    If you don't have an errorcode or bsod, the Guided Help is useless if you are
    looking for an answer solving any problem.
    It's like searching for a needle in a haystack.
     
    Dorre, Jun 27, 2006
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  16. HartsVideo

    Dorre Guest

    I must confess: this forum has not brought me any sollutions to any of my
    problems, only suggestions.
    But at least someone knows that the updates (or should I say beta-tests?)
    are causing problems that must be undone or solved.
     
    Dorre, Jun 27, 2006
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  17. HartsVideo

    HartsVideo Guest

    The links that I gave you are all free and extremely thorough. When you've
    finished, you'll know exactly what you have in your pc, with no doubt
    whatsoever. Adaware is good but you need to use the other programs along
    with Adaware if you suspect a Trojan, virus, worm, malicious spyware, etc.
    It took me about 8 hrs to run all of the scans that are listed in the link
    that I posted, but I have complete piece of mind that I have none of those
    problems in my pc. The problem that I have is with the updates that
    Microsoft has been sending and which I downloaded and installed in my pc.
    When I've downloaded the last 3 updates, each time my pc had very serious to
    semi-serious problems. When I removed the updates, my pc worked well again.

    As I said in a previous thread, the program named a-squared found spyware
    that Microsoft placed in my pc with one of their updates. The name of the
    file is WgaTray.exe When I removed the program, my pc's speed doubled.
    This is a portion of the previous thread:

     
    HartsVideo, Jun 27, 2006
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  18. HartsVideo

    HartsVideo Guest

    The programs that I mention are all free and extremely thorough. When you've
    finished, you'll know exactly what you have in your pc, with no doubt
    whatsoever. Adaware is good but you need to use the other programs along
    with Adaware if you suspect a Trojan, virus, worm, malicious spyware, etc.
    It took me about 8 hrs to run all of the scans that are listed in the link
    that I posted, but I have complete piece of mind that I have none of those
    problems in my pc. The problem that I have is with the updates that
    Microsoft has been sending and which I downloaded and installed in my pc.
    When I've downloaded the last 3 updates, each time my pc had very serious to
    semi-serious problems. When I removed the updates, my pc worked well again.

    As I said in a previous thread, the program named a-squared found spyware
    that Microsoft placed in my pc with one of their updates. The name of the
    file is WgaTray.exe When I removed the program, my pc's speed doubled.
    This is a portion of the previous thread:

     
    HartsVideo, Jun 27, 2006
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  19. HartsVideo

    Dorre Guest

    WgaTray.exe can easily be replaced by malware. In fact, you could delete it
    (I advice NOT to) and Windows will stil run normaly.
    I also have WgaTray.exe on my system. At your advice I ran A-square, but a2
    did not find any problem.
    You probably had a WgaTray.exe that was replaced by malware (using the same
    name).

    Thanks for the advice and the links to some fine freewarez.
    Next time please read all forum-entries before you spit and slam the door
    behind you.

    By the way, MY problem is still not solved.
     
    Dorre, Jun 28, 2006
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  20. HartsVideo

    HartsVideo Guest

    I came here only because I mistakenly thought that the email I received from
    Microsoft was a notification that I had a response to a post at MajorGeeks or
    GeeksToGoor I wouldn't have come. Now that I did, I'm happy because it's not
    me who came, spit on the floor and slammed the door . . . it was you who did
    it to me behind my back, thinking I wouldn't be coming here any longer.
    WgaTray.exe is Microsoft spyware. Do a search for it using find hidden and
    system files and it'll come up with Microsoft's silver star, meaning, do you
    have genuine Microsoft Windows in you pc? If it's determined that you do,
    why does it keep in contact with Microsoft several times a day? What info is
    Microsoft getting about me and my pc habits? Microsoft is a Peeping Tom and,
    like all Peeping Toms, it should be removed. Just a fast Google search came
    up with all negative remarks about WgaTray.exe:

    http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/04/workarounds-to-disable-non-genuine.html

    http://www.smartcomputing.com/QABoard/QAMain.aspx?search=fq&fqid=557407&guid=

    http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17423

    http://www.broadbandreports.com/gs/wgatray.exe?cat=remark

    http://outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?p=127084

    http://news.zdnet.com/5208-3513-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=21854&messageID=416453&start=1

    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16220001~mode=flat

    If you don't care that you're being spyed upon, keep WgaTray.exe in your pc.
    As for me, I deleted the file when a-sqared notified me that it was spyware.
    I hadn't yet performed a scan. A-squared told me whenever WgaTray.exe
    phoned home and asked me if I wanted to allow it one time, always, never or
    delete it. I deleted it.

    If all spyware is bad, then WgaTray.exe is bad. I don't know who you are to
    advice anyone not to delete the file but you obviously don't understand that
    it is spyware. When I deleted the file, the speed of my pc more than
    tripled. After I deleted WgaTray.exe, I performed 8 hours worth of scans of
    my pc in Safe Mode and Safe Mode with Networking and I had no viruses,
    spyware, malware, trojans, worms, or adware in my pc. So it was only
    WgaTray.exe that caused the problems with my pc.

    MajorGeeks Forum: http://forums.majorgeeks.com/

    Excellent programs to use to check for viruses, spyware, malware, trojans,
    worms, or adware:
    http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=35407

    Follow ALL the steps listed in the above url and then post the results here
    for help:
    http://forums.majorgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=35

    If you have your Windows disk, pop the DVD into your DVD drive and Windows
    will check all of your protected files to ensure that they are the original
    files and not modified:

    Start > Run > (type in box) sfc /scannow > ok

    When the Windows installation screen opens, click EXIT.

    It will not give you a report when it is done.

    Re-boot the pc afterwards.

    This might solve the problems that you're having with your pc.

    Hopefully I won't make the same mistake by coming here, thinking it was a
    MajorGeeks or GeekstoGo forum notification because it p*sses me off to no end
    when someone maliciously talks behind someone else's back.

    Denise

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    HartsVideo, Jun 29, 2006
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