Newsgroup is being closed - now what do I do?

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 30, 2010.

  1. [Crosspost to IE General & Windows Update newsgroups]

    In its infinite, control-freak wisdom, MS has decided to drop IE General &
    Windows Update newsgroups on 01 July 2010; cf.
    http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx

    [Send your feedback to the black hole known as ]

    If you need assistance with an IE problem, you can begin your own, new
    thread in this MS Answers forum:
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

    If you need assistance with a Windows Update problem, you can begin your
    own, new thread in this MS Answers forum:
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads

    NB: Always state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; WinXP 64-bit
    SP2; Vista SP1; Vista 64-bit SP2; Win7; Win7 64-bit) as well as your current
    IE version (e.g., IE6, IE7, IE8) in your first post.

    MS Answers forums FAQ
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help

    "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya!
    ~~
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 30, 2010
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  2. Take care, ~Robear. The next step to the demise is on the horizon.

    : [Crosspost to IE General & Windows Update newsgroups]
    :
    : In its infinite, control-freak wisdom, MS has decided to drop IE General &
    : Windows Update newsgroups on 01 July 2010; cf.
    : http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx
    :
    : [Send your feedback to the black hole known as ]
    :
    : If you need assistance with an IE problem, you can begin your own, new
    : thread in this MS Answers forum:
    : http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads
    :
    : If you need assistance with a Windows Update problem, you can begin your
    : own, new thread in this MS Answers forum:
    : http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads
    :
    : NB: Always state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; WinXP 64-bit
    : SP2; Vista SP1; Vista 64-bit SP2; Win7; Win7 64-bit) as well as your
    current
    : IE version (e.g., IE6, IE7, IE8) in your first post.
    :
    : MS Answers forums FAQ
    : http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help
    :
    : "What a long, strange trip it's been." Bye-bye, see ya!
    : ~~
    : ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    : MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    :
     
    Hoyst Owen Petard, Jun 30, 2010
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  3. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    antioch Guest

    Hello PABear
    Thank you for the warning and all your help over the last 10 years.

    Perhaps we may meet in 'the next life'.
    My IP/ISP has done the same recently - used the excuse that the forums were
    more popular - and the only reason for that was, when searching for help on
    their web site, they always directed you to the discussion/forums and never
    to newsgroups. Bit like MS. - and they tried to say that users found it
    easier to use the forums - but those directed to the newsgroups were most
    grateful.

    Rgds
    Antioch
     
    antioch, Jun 30, 2010
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  4. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    GS Guest

    searching on forum may be a bit easier at times but the ms forum
    occasionally fouls up page format badly
    or may be just more so during last couple of days due to maintenance effort
     
    GS, Jun 30, 2010
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  5. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    Lee Antony Guest

    What, is that past the event horizon? Be aware, your real identity is known
    Hoyst Owen Petard.
     
    Lee Antony, Jul 1, 2010
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  6. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    Bill Guest

    And we never did get the 646 bug fixed.

    Thanks for your, and the other regulars, help over the years.

    Bill
     
    Bill, Jul 1, 2010
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  7. Office Team sez, "What 646 bug?"
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jul 1, 2010
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  8. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    Terry R. Guest

    On 6/30/2010 11:16 AM On a whim, PA Bear [MS MVP] pounded out on the
    keyboard
    Last correction. No apostrophe in "its"... ;-) See ya!


    Terry R.
     
    Terry R., Jul 1, 2010
    #8
  9. "It's," is a contraction of it has, the apostrophe is proper.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Jul 1, 2010
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  10. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    Tecknomage Guest


    I am replying to the post from Newsgroup:
    microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general

    Microsoft DOES NOT control the "microsoft.public." Newsgroups.

    The only way these Newsgroups will go away is if EVERY Usenet provider
    dropped them from their NNTP Server, which ain't going to happen.

    Now it IS true that Microsoft can drop any Newsgroup is wants from
    their www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/.


    Also note Google Groups listing:
    http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?lnk=srgmt&hl=en&q=microsoft.public
     
    Tecknomage, Jul 1, 2010
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  11. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    Dan Guest

    And most of the posts to the microsoft.public newsgroups come from the
    Microsoft Communties web interface and people posting direct to the
    msnews.microsoft.com servers, both of which will cease over the coming
    months - the IE one today. So yes, cheer that the groups will live on, but
    lament that the number of posts will plummet to a tiny fraction of their
    current rate, the groups will die anyway.
     
    Dan, Jul 1, 2010
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  12. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    MowGreen Guest


    You are correct, Jeff. Thanks for confirming the appropriate apostrophe
    usage.

    Adieu to NNTP and to the Forums I say ... thanks but no tanks.


    MowGreen
    ================
    *-343-* FDNY
    Never Forgotten
    ================

    banthecheck.com
    "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
     
    MowGreen, Jul 1, 2010
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  13. Anybody with a NNTP client, such as Outlook Express, Thunderbird, Windows
    Live Mail, etc., that can get to a newsgroup will still be able to post to
    the newsgroups listed in this thread. The groups are not going away, just
    MSoft's link to them is leaving us.

    To the extent that MSoft Communities is the entry portal for most posts,
    then the traffic will surely drop off when the portals close.

    Personally, I find any trip to Microsoft.com is so laden with frustration
    and dissatisfaction that I never go to there unless I absolutely have to,
    and then I only remain for the time it takes for the particular task. I find
    that everything that MSoft does is pretty much a disaster, and nothing good
    comes from my ventures into their realm.

    I (and I'd wonder if more are like me) found this group because of the
    frustration of getting any useful information from MSoft Communities. I used
    my news client to search for the group I needed when I was having whatever
    the problem was that I was having. Now, I return to help when I can.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Jul 1, 2010
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  14. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    antioch Guest

    Thank you for your help over the years - so will you continue in another
    form of NNTP?

    "its", the possessive adjective and possessive pronoun form of the personal
    pronoun "it" -
    "it's" a contraction of it is or it has.

    Adieu also to all.

    Antioch
    Just thought - today is 'chop it day' - still going??????


     
    antioch, Jul 1, 2010
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  15. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    Panic Guest

    Try these Newsgroup Servers: aioe.org and msnews.microsoft.com. I can still
    access microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general and
    microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop on the 2nd server and
    microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop on the first (aioe.org)

    I use Cox and their news.west.cox.net Newsgroup server just went dead today.
    I went to their chat room and was advised that 30 June, 2010 was the end of
    their providing Newsgroup service.

     
    Panic, Jul 1, 2010
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  16. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    MowGreen Guest

    Thanks for the aioe.org suggestion. I've subscribed to the MS NGs via
    that server but am not sure how long that will be worthwhile, Panic.

    Asi es la vida ... long live NNTP !


    MowGreen
     
    MowGreen, Jul 2, 2010
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  17. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    Helroy Guest

    Go play outside, get some fresh air. It will do you good. :)


    --
    Hëlröy
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    (='.'=)
    (" )_(" )
    =====
     
    Helroy, Jul 2, 2010
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  18. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    Dan Guest

    Why suggest msnews.microsoft.com? That's the server cluster at MS that is
    being shut down! :p

    You can still access stuff on msnews.microsoft.com because MS haven't
    cleared them all down yet, looks like the office monkey forgot to delete the
    IE newsgroups last night ...

    Dan


     
    Dan, Jul 2, 2010
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  19. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    Duane Hebert Guest

    news.eternal-september.org
     
    Duane Hebert, Jul 3, 2010
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  20. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    Duane Hebert Guest

    I expect that there are more people like you. We'll see as time goes by
    how much traffic stays here.
     
    Duane Hebert, Jul 3, 2010
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