No longer have animation

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by Jan :\), Jun 23, 2008.

  1. Jan :\)

    Jan :\) Guest

    I was curious about that too, as since XP IE has been a core part of the
    software and not uninstallable. As far as know that is the case with Vista
    as well. So, if it is uninstallable from XP or Vista in other than US
    versions, I am unaware of that capability. I was testing the IE8 beta on
    that machine, but, uninstalled it last Thursday to do some testing the needs
    a clean IE7, not just the Emulation. That is when I noticed that none of
    the map animations are now working.
    Yeppers....they even let me off the Resevation now and then too. At least to
    attend the MVP Summits. :eek:))

    Jan :)
     
    Jan :\), Jun 24, 2008
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  2. Jan :\)

    Jan :\) Guest

    I didn't think it would be there, but, figured I cover all the bases.

    Jan :)
     
    Jan :\), Jun 24, 2008
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  3. Jan :\)

    Jan :\) Guest

    Sorry...I don't follow the idea....try what in a virtual machine?

    Jan :)
     
    Jan :\), Jun 24, 2008
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  4. The N editions ("no IE") don't have it but it can be installed. That
    installation can later be uninstalled. However, only a few thousand N
    editions apparently sold. The European Courts' great triumph fizzled. I
    beleive that the K editions (Korea) worked about the same. I think other
    than that whatever IE ships with a version of Windows is core.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 24, 2008
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  5. What you said above in response to Tony, "I can try it. I am am not keen to
    do a Vista repair if there is any way I
    can avoid it." So use VPC and install a copy of Vista in a virtual machine
    to experiment with. When you are done just delete the virtual machine.
    That's the way to try out stuff without it affecting your computer.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 24, 2008
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  6. Yeah, the core software never shows up in Add/Remove, including whatever
    version of IE or WMP shipped with the copy of the OS you are using.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 24, 2008
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  7. Jan :\)

    Jan :\) Guest

    I will endeavor the above as gray matter comprehends. :) While I have all
    these tools, analysis of such is not one of my more deft attributes. <grin>
    Expecially, when it doing visual comparisions, as vision in one eye is very
    limited so extended study is not always an easy thing. However, the
    programs do have merit and can offer a good information.
    Indeed! :)
    The map here does not appear at all:
    http://www.weather.com/outlook/driv...Warn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar

    The map here renders but when I click the Show Map In Motion it tries to
    change to the animation but just hangs indefinitely.
    http://www.weather.com/weather/map/...usinterstateforecastday3_large_animated&day=1
    I've check out some that speak of animation problems, but, nothing is
    related to having previously installed the IE8, as least not from what I
    could tell, nor were the rendering and animation problems the same.

    When I try to install the Adobe Flash, it says that I have it installed,
    yet, I have unintsalled it earlier to reinstall and see if that might help.
    Also, the Adobe Active X download is blocked by IE and I have not yet been
    able to find how to unblock it. Putting it in my Trusted Zone does not
    work, nor does any of the Security allowances I have made. So, I can't
    reinstall it. Although, it says it is installed. So, something may be amiss
    too. This is all very strange, as it just started since I uninstalled the
    IE8. The Flash and all had been working fine until then.

    Jan :)
     
    Jan :\), Jun 24, 2008
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  8. Jan :\)

    Jan :\) Guest

    Ah...I meant by my reply to Tony was that I was willing to try suggestions.
    Doing a repair of vista is the last thing I want to do, and only if it is
    the last resort. However, I didn't really expect to find the IE listed in
    the components list, nor listed in the Programs and Features of VIsta, as it
    is not a separate install, ats least not in my version, but, I figured it
    wouldn't hurt to check it out anyway. But, I see what you mean now. I
    don't anticipate the need for using VPC. If the IE is borked the VPC won't
    help.

    Jan :)
     
    Jan :\), Jun 24, 2008
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  9. Jan :\)

    Jan :\) Guest

    Ahhh, thanks for the clarification, Colin. Bill Sharpe used to keep us up to
    date on what the Korean version was doing, but, haven't talked with him of
    late. His WHS keeps him pretty busy these days :))

    Jan :)
     
    Jan :\), Jun 24, 2008
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  10. Jan :\)

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Jan.

    I haven't followed the thread closely; maybe this has already been covered.
    But, since you gave those two links in your last post, I tried them both in
    IE8b1 with IE7 Emulation ON, first in the x86 version, then in x64. (I'm
    running Vista Ultimate x64, and I get the same results with IE7 Emulation
    OFF.) Here's what I see:

    At:
    http://www.weather.com/outlook/driv...Warn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar

    in IE8b1 x86, I see the buff-colored highway road map. When I click on the
    Play arrow below the map, maybe there is some animation, but apparently not
    much is happening in your weather today.

    In IE8b1 x64, I see the background for the map, but no map - just a big
    square patch of white. At the bottom there is a link to "Get Flash".
    Clicking that gets me the Adobe page with a "TechNote" titled "Flash Player
    support on 64-bit operating systems" and two statements that say:
    ISSUE:
    Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser.
    However, you can run Flash Player in a 32-bit browser running on a 64-bit
    operating system.
    REASON
    Adobe is working on Flash Player support for 64-bit platforms as part of our
    ongoing commitment to the cross-platform compatibility of Flash Player. We
    have not yet announced timing or release dates.


    At:
    http://www.weather.com/weather/map/...usinterstateforecastday3_large_animated&day=1

    In IE8b1 x86, I see a static green weather map. When I click on Show map in
    motion, it loads the animation and then shows it. At first there seems to
    be no action at all, but then I see a small rain shower dot in the south end
    of Delaware. It appears and disappears as the animation loops.

    In IE8b1 x64, I see the same thing. The animation works just as in x86!
    ;<)


    So the only non-working combo seems to be the first map, and only in IE8b1
    x64. That is, in the 64-bit browser running on 64-bit Vista. And it fails
    only for the first URL, not the second. So the problem may be in that web
    page, not in Vista - or even in Flash.

    Matrix: 32-bit IE 64-bit IE
    First URL Works Doesn't Work
    Second URL Works Works

    It seems that Adobe doesn't even know that their Flash Player works with
    64-bit browsers - sometimes.


    Now, since - as I said - I'm not deeply involved in the thread, I'll back
    off and let you and Robert, Colin, Tony, et al, continue.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
     
    R. C. White, Jun 24, 2008
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  11. Oh, you guys have me worried now - the machine is away for the moment, so
    cannot really check right now, but I am quite sure that I did away with it
    once in a fit of despair. Of course, it stays installed under the hood but
    it looks gone, and I suspect that when you activate it again it should check
    that everything it expects to find really is there. As a spinal reaction
    after finding MP Classic I give Media Player the same treatment whenever I
    install something new, so I cannot be mistaken, (I hope) but I'll give a
    hoot in a few days when it's back home again.


    Tony. . .
     
    Tony Sperling, Jun 24, 2008
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  12. Perhaps you simply changed the default app?

     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 24, 2008
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  13. Ah, but if it is the IE in the vm that is borked and not the one on the
    computer itself then it is an easy bork to get rid of.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 24, 2008
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  14. Jan :\)

    Jan :\) Guest

    Thanks Tony. Will be watching for the update info.

    Jan :)
     
    Jan :\), Jun 24, 2008
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  15. Jan :\)

    Jan :\) Guest

    My questions is, how does that help the host Vista IE if it is borked? What
    if I install the IE8 on the Vista on the VPC, uninstall it and it works
    fine? I am not trying to blame the IE8 for the problem with the IE7 on the
    one machine, but, something got changed and I need to find out what it is so
    I can fix it. So, what would installing another copy of the Vista Ultimate
    x64 on a VPC prove? I am not trying to be argumentative, but, am curious
    about what your thinking is that might be a telling result. As it has been
    working fine on the x64 machine since Vista x64 was installed Vista went
    RTM, and it worked just fine after installing the IE8 beta since its
    release, so that should say something for the OS. The fact that the problem
    has only happened since I uninstalled the IE8 beta leads me to think that it
    is more in the way of something that got borked in IE when the IE8 was
    uninstalled. Which may not necessarily have anything to do with it being an
    x64 or x86 OS, or IE8.

    I really don't know, it is my first time around with this issue, and the
    immediate circumstances, so I am trying to do as much troubleshooting as I
    can on my end, given that I am not sure what is really the basic cause of
    the problem to home in on. I can do the whole 9 yards with the VPC, but, I
    am not sure that any evidence that it might provide would really be that
    useful in nailing down where the problem really lies, other than it does not
    happen there. I have to weigh the time involved against the possible
    benefits.

    Jan :)
     
    Jan :\), Jun 24, 2008
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  16. Jan :\)

    Jan :\) Guest

    That is what I have been aware of for the previous Windows versions, and
    have never seen it in Vista. However, as we see, there are variations of the
    versions that are made available outside the US, and so I prefer to check
    first to confirm rather then to assume it is not available in my own
    version. With MS.....ya never know... :)

    Jan :)
     
    Jan :\), Jun 24, 2008
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  17. Jan :\)

    Jan :\) Guest

    Thank you very much for the detailed follow-up, RC. Yes, I noticed the
    sporadic animation in the IE8 mode as compared to the IE7 Emulation for the
    link you mentioned, but, the other did work fine in both modes. The fact
    that since I uninstalled the IE8 neither of the sites will now work
    properly, even the one that had worked without fault in IE8, is the
    puzzlement. I can't seem to find out what changed, or where. Also, the one
    link that no longer will load says that Adobe Flash is required, yet, when I
    try to install it, it says that I have the current version installed, even
    after I uninstalled it to try to reinstall to see that they would solve the
    problem, and so now I can't reinstalle the Adobe Flash that is needed. It
    it "Miller time" yet Kemo Sabe?? :eek:))

    Jan :)
     
    Jan :\), Jun 24, 2008
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  18. First of all I don't put beta stuff on a primary computer natively (I do on
    the test box of course). If I want to look at beta stuff on my primary
    computer I do it in a vm running on that computer so that I never get into
    problems on the host.

    Once you have screwed up IE on your physical computer nothing you would do
    in a vm can help, of course. I'm just saying it is easy enough not to get
    into that kind of mess in the first place.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 24, 2008
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  19. I just don't remember - does IE7 have an SP for Vista?


    Tony. . .
     
    Tony Sperling, Jun 25, 2008
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  20. Jan :\)

    Jan :\) Guest

    I may be wrong, and as you obviously are not using the US version of Vista,
    I can not say if Vista SP updates would apply to any and all IE7 installs,
    be they core or seperate installs. While IE may not be a core part of all
    Vista versions, I really have no idea if such updates would apply to all IE,
    including installs that are not part of the core software. I truly don't
    know, Tony. Maybe there are others here who are more into that area who
    might be able to add more light on the subject. I am only at the "G" part
    of the Geek status. :eek:)

    Jan :)
     
    Jan :\), Jun 25, 2008
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