No password expiration message/Can't change password

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by jberlin, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. jberlin

    jberlin Guest

    Some Office Outlook 2003 users, both XP and W2000; "Password has expired ...
    must change now" message without ever showing a "about to expire" message and
    then user can't change the password. I know I saw a fix for this somewhere
    on Microsoft but I can't find it now. Anyone know what it is?
     
    jberlin, Jul 18, 2005
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  2. Hi,

    Welcome to our SBS newsgroup.

    Issue description:

    ============

    According to your description, I understand that you encountered some
    problem in changing password on outlook 2003.

    Analyzing and suggestions:

    =============

    Generally speaking, the clients who are running Outlook and are not part of
    a Windows Domain will not receive the password expiration notification due
    to not logging on to a domain. This is an expected behavior. we did have a
    hotfix for this issue, but it only apply to outlook with RPC and HTTP, not
    for local users; does your issue occur on remote user only? You can refer
    to following KB article for detailed information:

    883634 A remote procedure call returns an incorrect error message to an
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=883634

    895276 When you use Outlook 2003 to connect to your Exchange server mailbox
    by
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=895276

    833734 FIX: You experience various problems when you use the Password Change
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=833734

    Also as I know, this hotfix is also included in Windows 2003 SP1 which is
    part of SBS 2003 SP1. You can apply the SBS 2003 SP1 to resolve this issue.

    At your convenience, I would like to give you some link to help you install
    SBS 2003 SP1, if you have not installed it.

    Follow the steps outlined in these documents to install the important
    updates included with Service Pack 1 for Windows Small Business Server 2003
    from CD.

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d56a7675-27c1-445b-
    a61f-007a30852ac6&DisplayLang=en

    Steps for installing Service Pack 1 for Windows Small Business Server 2003
    from the Web.

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=B6F8A4C0-B707-4161-
    ADEB-44F1B756119F&displaylang=en


    See how to install the Premium Technologies components of Windows Small
    Business Server with SP1 Premium Edition.

    http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/0/5/105c4aee-f2b4-4494-adcc-4c36084
    76c4a/PremiumInstallSteps.htm


    If the issue still exists, please kindly let me know, and check your event
    view to see if there are any error events, and paste them to newsgroup.

    More info:

    297121 Using the Change Password feature with Outlook Web Access
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=297121


    327134 How to use the Change Password feature in Outlook Web Access
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=327134

    I appreciate your taking the time to perform the tests, if you have any
    further concerns, please let me know. I am here waiting for your updates.



    Best regards,

    Charles Yang (MSFT)

    Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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    Charles Yang [MSFT], Jul 19, 2005
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  3. jberlin

    jberlin Guest

    Only one user was on OWA, the rest were all local. Most of the Outlook users
    are OL 2003 SP1 including myself and I had the problem.

     
    jberlin, Jul 19, 2005
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  4. Hi,

    Thanks for updates.

    I suggest you follow my suggestions below:

    1. Right click the user, choose properties.
    2. In the account tab, please make sure that the "can not change password"
    is not selected for all the users.


    Check the domain default policy to make sure the prompt user to change
    password is set correctly.
    Domain policy:

    Computer Configurations->Windows Settings->security setting->Local
    policies-security options

    If possible, please create a new user, does the issue still exist when the
    password expired, you can set the password to expired immediately.

    Could you check your event view to see if there are any error messages to
    this issue, paste them to newsgroup?

    I appreciate your time in performing the tests, if you have any further
    concerns, please let me know. I will be here waiting for your updates.



    Best regards,

    Charles Yang (MSFT)

    Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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    Charles Yang [MSFT], Jul 20, 2005
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  5. jberlin

    jberlin Guest

    Hi

    1) User Accounts: "Can not Change Passwords" is UN-checked for all users.

    2) Default Domain Policy: Local policies-security options: All that shows
    (fully expanded) is Network Security
    Policy: Network Security: Force logoff when logon hours expire.
    Setting: Disabled.

    Should there be something else?

    I tried to simulate the event by making a dummy user and putting "must
    change password at next logon" then accessing the account with Outlook:

    At first I get a Must Change Password notice, Click Change Password, get
    Change Successful. Close that window and back to logon using new password
    gets
    "Your logon information was incorrect. Check your uername and domain, then
    type your password again. If your account is new or if your administrator
    requested a password change you need to Click Change Password then logon with
    your new password."

    The only log event I see at this time are two Security Audits (see text
    below) but nothine in either Appication Log or System:

    Event ID: 535
    User: NT AUTHORITY/SYSTEM

    Logon Failure:
    Reason: The specified account's password has expired
    User Name: ExchUser
    Domain: berlinfinancial
    Logon Type: 3
    Logon Process: Advapi
    Authentication Package: Negotiate
    Workstation Name: BFL-SVR-01
    Caller User Name: BFL-SVR-01$
    Caller Domain: BERLINFINANCIAL
    Caller Logon ID: (0x0,0x3E7)
    Caller Process ID: 160
    Transited Services: -
    Source Network Address: -
    Source Port: -


    For more information, see Help and Support Center at


    Event ID: 529
    User: NT AUTHORITY/SYSTEM

    Logon Failure:
    Reason: Unknown user name or bad password
    User Name: ExchUser
    Domain: berlinfinancial
    Logon Type: 3
    Logon Process: Advapi
    Authentication Package: Negotiate
    Workstation Name: BFL-SVR-01
    Caller User Name: BFL-SVR-01$
    Caller Domain: BERLINFINANCIAL
    Caller Logon ID: (0x0,0x3E7)
    Caller Process ID: 160
    Transited Services: -
    Source Network Address: -
    Source Port: -


    For more information, see Help and Support Center at

    I don't see a way to set the password expiration period for an single
    account. I would like to be able to test a fix (if there is one) for the
    missing password expiration problem.

    Jim


     
    jberlin, Jul 20, 2005
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  6. jberlin

    jberlin Guest

    Also;

    Password support for Web Access works well, however:
    1) The instructions failed to metion removing the Deny Access to IP
    127.0.0.1 that crept into the IISAdmpwd Virtual Server Security.
    2) I'm not sure how that is going to help if your password unexpectedly
    expires.

    The server is a Dell with SBS 2003 factory installed. Dell still warns
    against installing SBS SP1 on their machines.


     
    jberlin, Jul 20, 2005
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  7. Hi Jim,

    Sorry for making the issue not clear, I mean you can check the policy
    interactive logon: "Prompt user change password before expired".

    As you mean, it seems you did not installed the SBS SP1 because of the
    Dell's against, from dell's websites we found they against install Windows
    2003 SP1 individually however you can install the SBS 2003 SP1, it might
    solve your issue. Also if you have Dell open management system installed on
    your SBS 2003, please quickly contact with Dell for further updates, it
    have a lot of known issue if you installed Windows 2003 SP1, (included in
    SBS 2003 SP1).

    Thanks for your understanding, if you did not want to install SBS 2003 SP1,
    you need to follow my steps to apply the hotfix from CSS. You can refer to
    my first reply, at your convenience, I would like to give you that article
    again:

    883634 A remote procedure call returns an incorrect error message to an
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=883634


    895276 When you use Outlook 2003 to connect to your Exchange server mailbox
    by
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=895276

    I appreciate your understanding and hope the above information helpful, if
    you have any further concerns, please let me know. I will be here waiting
    for your updates.



    Best regards,

    Charles Yang (MSFT)

    Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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    Charles Yang [MSFT], Jul 21, 2005
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  8. HI Jim,

    Also you mean this issue only occurs on outlook 2003, if you did the same
    things in OWA, the issue will not exist. Does it have any impact on Client
    logon to workstations?

    After you change password through windows logon pages, does the issue still
    exist when you logon again to the workstations, or it only occur when you
    logon outlook on workstation.

    I appreciate your time in this issue. I will be here waiting for updates.



    Best regards,

    Charles Yang (MSFT)

    Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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    Charles Yang [MSFT], Jul 21, 2005
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  9. jberlin

    jberlin Guest

    Ok, let me try to explain my situation again:

    I work for a very small company of tweleve users on a simple LAN. We have a
    SBS 2003 server for email. The user community is made up of a mixture of XP
    and Win 2000 Pro machines. Most everyone works in the office using Outlook
    2003 (local) and only use Web Access occasionally. In this community, no one
    ever receives a "password will expire soon" message, regardless of XP, W2k,
    Outlook 2003 or Web Access. When passwords do expire, and they seem to
    expire earlier than the 40 days set in Password Policy, then some, but not
    ALL, users can change their passwords.

    The users that can not change their passwords have been on XP and W2K
    machines using Outlook 2003. I have shown an example of the password change
    problem in a previous posting. When passwords expire, the ability to change
    passwords in Web Access is useless because the user can not logon to Web
    Access in the first place. The ability to change passwords in Web Access is
    useful only if you have warning that your password is going to expire soon.

    My major consern is the password expiration warning message that does not
    appear to anyone in the organization.

    I hope this clearifys my problem.

     
    jberlin, Jul 21, 2005
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  10. jberlin

    jberlin Guest

    Here's an example of exactly why I am terrified of applying SBS 2003 SP1.
    This user appears to be in exactly the same situation as I am - using
    Exchange Archivesink to collect copies of all email; In my case for
    regulatory reasons. My server can not tolerate any down time or data loss
    and Archivesink Must work.

    POP 3 Connector error 1061 & 1062 in Windows Small Business Server 2003:
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/co...&p=1&tid=1c39c55a-4182-4784-b2a0-6196bedfe897


     
    jberlin, Jul 21, 2005
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  11. HI Jim,

    Thanks for your updates.

    I understand your worry, let me clarify the issue more clearly, as I know
    most of the POP3 connector issue is caused by SBS side, but cause by ISP
    side. The link you refer to is related to SMTP virtual server, and it seems
    the customer did not configure his email domain correctly.

    Also from your description, it seems you never receive any password expired
    messages on the domain. So I suggest you change the default domain policy
    to see if the policy for showing password policy is configured or not.

    Computer Configurations->Windows Settings->security setting->Local
    policies-security options- "Prompt user change password before expired"

    If you have already applied to default domain policy, please make sure you
    did not apply any other policy relate to account policy, it might cause
    some interruption, if you only configure your domain via default domain
    policy, please also check the following setting and paste them to newsgroup.

    Computer Configurations->Windows Settings->security setting->account
    policy->password policy, paste all the setting relate to this policy. This
    will help us isolate the issue more clear.

    You can also refer to following KB article for more detailed information:

    297121 Using the Change Password feature with Outlook Web Access
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=297121

    Please note that you may have to use the workaround in this KB, if not work
    I suggest you also contact with CSS for applying hotfix, this might be a
    Exchange issue.

    313194 No Password Expiration Notice Is Presented During the Logon Process
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=313194

    Thanks for your understanding. I will be here waiting for your updates.



    Best regards,

    Charles Yang (MSFT)

    Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

    Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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    Charles Yang [MSFT], Jul 22, 2005
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  12. jberlin

    jberlin Guest

    Also from your description, it seems you never receive any password expired
    I assume you are referring to Advanced Management=>Group Policy
    I posted this information in the 7/20/05 post: There is no "Prompt user
    change password before expired" entry.

    Computer Configuration (Enabled)
    hide
    Windows Settings
    hide
    Local Policies/Security Options
    hide
    Network Security
    hide
    Policy
    Setting
    Network security: Force logoff when logon hours expire Disabled

    I don't see "" in the list above. Should it be there? If yes, How do I
    insert it?
    Computer Configuration (Enabled)
    hide
    Windows Settings
    hide
    Security Settings
    hide
    Account Policies/Password Policy
    hide
    Policy
    Setting
    Enforce password history 24
    passwords remembered
    Maximum password age 42 days
    Minimum password age 1 days
    Minimum password length 7
    characters
    Password must meet complexity requirements Enabled
    Store passwords using reversible encryption Disabled
    I applied 297121 and it works.





     
    jberlin, Jul 22, 2005
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  13. Hi,

    Thanks for updates,

    I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand that
    the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals to
    answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
    greatly appreciated!

    After checking your reply, I found your setting in policy is correct,
    however could you follow the steps below to check your policy setting:

    After you expand to default domain policy on the left pane of advance
    management in server management, right click the default domain policy
    click edit.

    Then Computer Configurations->Windows Settings->security setting->Local
    policies-security options- "Prompt user change password before expired" you
    will know the policy I mean, you can check the policy setting of this.
    Please also paste this to our newsgroup. So that we can do a test to see
    what is the results.

    Thanks for your time and understanding. I will be here waiting for your
    updates.



    Best regards,

    Charles Yang (MSFT)

    Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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    Charles Yang [MSFT], Jul 25, 2005
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  14. jberlin

    jberlin Guest

    Hi;
    Well, the line doesn't copy, but here's what it says:

    Policy
    Policy Setting
    Interactive Logon: Prompt user to change password before expiration Not
    Defined


     
    jberlin, Jul 26, 2005
    #14
  15. Hi,

    Thanks for updates.

    It seems the expired messages are never defined on your group policy. So
    you will never get the password expired message. You might have to
    configure this setting in group policy if you use default domain policy to
    configure your password policy. You can configure as xx days before
    expired, then you will receive the password expired messages after 14 days.
    If you use another group policy to configure your password policy, please
    let me know.

    Thanks for your understanding.



    Best regards,

    Charles Yang (MSFT)

    Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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    Charles Yang [MSFT], Jul 27, 2005
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  16. jberlin

    jberlin Guest

    Ok,

    I changed the default domain policy to: Interactive logon: Prompt user
    before password expires to 14 days. The new policy now shows in Default
    Domain Policy/Computer Configuration/Windows Settings/Security Settings/Local
    Policies-Security Options/Interactive Logon.

    However, How can I tell if the policy is in effect?
    I used web logon (http://<server ip>/remote) for the dummy user and I got
    "Password expired, must change password" and I could not change the password
    there but only by going into Server Management and changing the password
    there. In otherwords - no difference in the symptoms.

    This installation is basically an "out-of-the-box", in fact, it was
    installed by Dell so I don't know if there is another policy in effect. How
    can I tell? For instance:
    Default Domain Policy/Computer Configuration/Windows Settings/Security
    Settings/Account Policies-Password Policies says
    Maximum password age 42
    Minimum password age 1
    But Standard Management/Users/Configure Password Policies says
    Maximum password age 40
    Does Standard Management/Users/Configure Password Policies update some other
    policy list?


     
    jberlin, Jul 27, 2005
    #16
  17. jberlin

    jberlin Guest

    Hi, All the above was sent to you yesterday.

    Thanks

     
    jberlin, Jul 29, 2005
    #17
  18. Hi,

    I did receive your messages, but I could not see your attachments, if
    possible could you send me the attachments again.

    Thanks

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    | Hi, All the above was sent to you yesterday.
    |
    | Thanks
    |
    | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" wrote:
    |
    | > Hi,
    | >
    | > Thanks for updates.
    | >
    | > From your description, your SBS have many policy that configure your
    | > password setting, so it might be some interruption. Please understand
    that
    | > it might be a little long process to troubleshooting this issue, I
    suggest
    | > you follow my steps below to import all your group policy setting and
    send
    | > to me.
    | >
    | > 1. Open the group policy management on server management:
    | > 2. Navigate to the group policy objects, click one group policy in the
    | > right pane, click setting tab then right click the report area choose
    save
    | > reports.
    | > 3. Reproduce steps to every policy.
    | > 4. Then navigate to the server node in the group policy management,
    click
    | > the server node, you will see a list of order in the right pane, please
    | > also send the order to me. This will help us which policy is in effect.
    | >
    | > My email address is
    | >
    | > Thanks for understanding in this issue. I will be here waiting for your
    | > updates.
    | >
    | >
    | >
    | > Best regards,
    | >
    | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
    | >
    | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
    | >
    | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
    | >
    | > ======================================================
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    | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
    corresponding
    | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
    manner.
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    | >
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    Best regards,

    Charles Yang (MSFT)

    Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

    Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

    ======================================================
    This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
    regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
    newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
    You can locate the newsgroup here:
    http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx

    When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
    "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
    any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
    please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
    issue.

    Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
    provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
    different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
    so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.

    For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
    check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.

    Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
    ======================================================
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


    =====================================================
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    that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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    Charles Yang [MSFT], Aug 1, 2005
    #18
  19. jberlin

    jberlin Guest

    Another password cycle has passed. I DID see a password expiration notice in
    OWA but NOT when logging on to Outlook 2003 on the LAN. The interactive
    logon policy IS set as you can see by the notice in OWA. Something still
    seems to be missing.
     
    jberlin, Aug 31, 2005
    #19
  20. HI.

    Thanks for updates.

    From your description, can I assume that you can change the password in OWA
    without any problem? But you can not receive any notification when logon
    outlook locally?

    1. Could you receive any notification when logon Workstation.
    2. I also do a test on my domain clients, I found if I choose change
    password when logon to the workstation, the outlook will prompt to change
    the password when I want to connect to SBS 2003 after the time for password
    expired date coming. If I choose not change password when the changing
    prompt appeared, I will not get any warning when I logon outlook.

    Hope the above information helpful to your issue. As you can change the
    password through OWA and also get the warning message through OWA, we can
    make sure that the policy works well, the problem should be relate to
    outlook.



    Best regards,

    Charles Yang (MSFT)

    Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

    Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

    ======================================================
    This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
    regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
    newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
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    provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
    different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
    so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.

    For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
    check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.

    Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
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    | Another password cycle has passed. I DID see a password expiration
    notice in
    | OWA but NOT when logging on to Outlook 2003 on the LAN. The interactive
    | logon policy IS set as you can see by the notice in OWA. Something still
    | seems to be missing.
    |
    | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" wrote:
    |
    | > Hi,
    | >
    | > Thanks for updates.
    | >
    | > It seems the expired messages are never defined on your group policy.
    So
    | > you will never get the password expired message. You might have to
    | > configure this setting in group policy if you use default domain policy
    to
    | > configure your password policy. You can configure as xx days before
    | > expired, then you will receive the password expired messages after 14
    days.
    | > If you use another group policy to configure your password policy,
    please
    | > let me know.
    | >
    | > Thanks for your understanding.
    | >
    | >
    | >
    | > Best regards,
    | >
    | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
    | >
    | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
    | >
    | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
    | >
    | > ======================================================
    | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
    | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
    corresponding
    | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
    manner.
    | > You can locate the newsgroup here:
    | > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
    | >
    | > When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check
    the
    | > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
    are
    | > any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
    newsreader,
    | > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
    | > issue.
    | >
    | > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
    | > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
    | > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
    doing
    | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
    | >
    | > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
    Please
    | > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
    | >
    | > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
    | > ======================================================
    | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights.
    | >
    | >
    | > =====================================================
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    so
    | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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    Charles Yang [MSFT], Sep 1, 2005
    #20
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