Norton Internet Security 2007

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Jay, Feb 19, 2007.

  1. Jay

    Mesquire Guest

    John, have you tried NIS2008 yet? Any comment?

    I got given a copy and am still debating if I should install it.
    Mesquire, Sep 29, 2007
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  2. Honestly, the 2008 is a nice improvement over 2007, which was way ahead of
    the 2005-2006 lowpoint. The install is much quicker and the program just
    seems more responsive. I'm still not thrilled with Norton Protection Center
    and the loss of some customization options from the 2003-2004 period, but
    overall, I think Symantec is back on the right track.
    Hurricane Andrew, Sep 29, 2007
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  3. Jay

    Midway Guest

    This time last year I was most definitely a Norton Basher. My Dell had came
    with NIS '04 which was hoggish and buggy. It made the P4 3.0GHz slower than
    the P3 800MHz it replaced. I vowed then that a Norton product would never
    be on any machine of mine ever again.

    Earlier this year I got Vista and at the time the suite I was using with XP
    (F-Secure) was not Vista compatible. After reading some high praises of NIS
    '07 in a security forum, I decided to set my prejudice aside and try it out.
    Man was I surprised! This is NOT the same Norton of old, '07 was lightyears
    ahead of '04. It had the same system impact as KIS '07. I was so impressed
    with it that I bought it 3 days into the trial. When '08 came out, I
    updated and once again was surprised that it runs even lighter than '07. I
    will definitely be renewing in March. As of last March my system has been
    clean even after purposely surfing in the internet's "darkside". It has
    been verified by various online scanners and a couple of AV's I had
    installed waiting for NIS '08 to come out. My poor SuperAntiSpyware has had
    nothing to do except clean a few cookies, lol.

    Symantec has learned it's lesson (though it took a while) as stated in this
    weblog (this is the first time I ever seen Symantec admit this):

    Also NIS '07 earned an Advanced+ at AV Comparitives with 98.8% detection
    (Eset was 97.6% and KAV was 98.46%.

    If you are still calling Norton bloatware now, you are behind the times.
    The Bloat Era is over.
    Midway, Oct 17, 2007
  4. Jay

    David Guest

    i find NIS2007 works fine on Vista, despite all the clueless naysayers
    here. :) they tried a norton product ages ago and can't get over the
    fact that the newer versions are fine.
    David, Oct 17, 2007
  5. It is going to take more than a version or two to get me back.
    For years Norton blew whatever reputation they had.
    In the meantime I found cheaper and better.
    There is no point in switching back since there are alternatives and
    Norton has ruined their reputation.

    I will continue to recommend other alternatives (most have proved
    better over time).
    Even if true a one year record is meaningless when counted against
    their long history of damaging computer performance.

    Perhaps in 5 or so years if they continually prove themselves.
    Until then it is a one issue fluke and they still have to prove their
    reliability in the long term.
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Oct 20, 2007
  6. Norton blew their own reputation and carefully did so for many years.
    I removed the last Norton product off one of my computers about two
    years ago and have not looked back.

    There are proven equal or better at less prices and less drain on
    computer resources.

    "the newer versions are fine"
    Perhaps it is a fluke.
    Norton will have to prove that for several years before they can even
    be considered.
    Norton has proved for years to be excessively bloated and it will take
    years for them to prove acceptable for my computers or any I have
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Oct 20, 2007
  7. Jay

    midway Guest

    While I cannot fault you on your rationale, I believe Symantec has learned
    it's lesson (this is the first time I have ever seen Symantec admitting the
    bloatness of it's past products):

    They should have done this long ago. I used to be a Norton hater as well,
    having a bad experience with NIS '04 but I decided to approach NIS '07 with
    an open mind since I was actually reading some good things about it. I was
    so taken back, I just could not condemn it from the experience I had. It
    was 300% better than '04 was and I was so impressed with it I bought a
    subscription 3 days into the trial. And '08 is even better.

    If you told me one year ago that one day I would be singing the praises of
    Norton, I would have told you that you were out of your blanking mind. At
    least I rose above my own self-convictions and actually tried the new
    products unlike others here.
    midway, Oct 20, 2007
  8. I may again "be singing the praises", however that will take at least
    a few years for them to earn that trust they so willingly threw out.
    In the meantime, I am established with other products.

    For Norton...To Little, To Late, at least for a few years.
    They worked hard to earn this suspicion.

    I doubt you, or anyone for that matter can give sufficient reason to
    change back when what I use now is efficient.
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Oct 20, 2007
  9. Jay

    David Guest

    stop living in the past. Your complaints are norton are so out of touch
    with reality.
    David, Oct 21, 2007
  10. Jay

    David Guest

    oops. replace "are " with "about".
    David, Oct 21, 2007
  11. David;
    They are observations on how Norton treats the computers of their

    " out of touch with reality."
    The "reality" is that this is the reputation Norton worked hard for
    years to earn.
    They can not shed it in one.
    They need to prove over time before I will consider Norton again.
    You have yet to give me a single reason why I should switch or suggest
    anyone else move to Norton.
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Oct 21, 2007
  12. Jay

    David Guest

    i wont make a dime off the sale if u buy it, so why should i bother
    wasting my time? I've already mentioned several times on this NG that
    it works fine on Vista despite those who have an unnatural aversion to it.
    David, Oct 22, 2007
  13. "why should i bother wasting my time?"
    Good choice since you are simply incapable of it at this time.

    I do not have an unnatural aversion to it.
    Perhaps you were referring to others?

    I tend to avoid products that have proved themselves poor for a long
    time, many years in this case.
    I am unsure what you see as unnatural for avoiding a product that has
    proven itself dangerous to computer performance for several years.
    Especially when there are other products that do the job at far less
    the cost.
    Norton has a long way to go if they really want to prove themselves.
    One good year and an article that may be half hearted and written by
    their marketing deartment is simply not enough.
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Oct 22, 2007
  14. Jay

    David Guest

    Norton has ALREADY proved themselves with their last 2 releases. Your
    naysaying doesn't change the facts that NIS works well on Vista. Better
    than Vista itself, which hardly has proved itself. IF it wasnt for
    vista being rammed down everyone's throat with new pc sales, Vista sales
    would be less than tepid. Vista is an OS that should never been
    released, once they stripped out numerous promised features.

    David, Oct 22, 2007
  15. "Vista is an OS that should never been"
    Your opinion, nothing more.
    Fortunately the rest of us have the choice that would deny since you
    feel "should never been released"
    Windows Vista works very well for me on two older computers and
    countless others as well.
    But then you are attempting to change the topic of this thread.

    "...their last 2 releases."
    Reports from users I have seen disagree.
    Perhaps only the last year is OK, but to soon to tell.
    In either case, 2 years after so many ignoring the needs of my
    computers is vastly insufficient to prove themselves worthy for my
    needs or anyone I influence.
    Symantec worked hard to earn this and they will have to work hard to
    earn otherwise.
    Symantec has done to little to dispute that, other than that article
    written more from a marketing perspective and less from technical.
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Oct 22, 2007
  16. Jay

    David Guest

    BS,as usual. the so called "users" that you cite are most likely just
    like you--ie they tried a norton product years ago and now go on sites
    to warn people away from the current version. give it a rest. you are
    a BS artist of grand proportions. your whole life seems wrapped up in
    trying to force your BS onto unsuspecting newbies. give it a rest for a
    few weeks, eh? you post way too often. take a vacation.

    David, Oct 22, 2007
  17. Your false assumptions go the route of many assumptions WRONG.

    I used Norton for several years on multiple computers, various Norton
    Not "a norton product" as you are so quick to ASSUME, but several.
    I removed the last of Norton about two years ago.
    In every case, switching from Norton resulted in better performance.
    You are unable to dispute that FACT.

    "BS,as usual"
    Suggests your own inability to accept a differing opinion.
    I am also aware of many others that share similar experiences and they
    have wide ranges of computing experience.
    So another assumption of yours "likely just like you" is also FALSE.

    "force your BS onto unsuspecting newbies."
    Not at all, that is real world long term experience.
    "unsuspecting newbies" like everyone else are free to do what they
    determine best with the information available.
    I certainly do NOT "force" anything on anyone.
    Only you know why you think anyone is forced to anything.

    "you post way too often. take a vacation"
    Irrelevant and NOT for you to say.
    If you are unable to handle an opinion that differs from yours,
    perhaps you need to heed your own advice.
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Oct 22, 2007
  18. Jay

    David Guest

    LOL! your post brings to mind the age old saying that has something to
    do with kettles and pots.
    David, Oct 23, 2007
  19. Jay

    Rabbit Guest

    On a Mac, it definitely has been nothing but trouble and should be banned.
    Which goes back a very long time, when it went from being Peter Norton to
    Symantec probably.

    However, the only time I had trouble with it and Vista was actually
    uninstalling - that was impossible it seemed!

    But... even AVG Suite can be a hog, too.

    So just for fun, I'm putting Norton NIS2008 on the drive running Business
    x64, and leave AVG as is on Home Premium x64, and then see. Both are very
    similarly configured (I use Business to test a program on and as backup, and
    Home Premium for daily use) then see if or how NIS2008 works - at least for

    The system is about a year old, Xeon 5130s, 4 x 500GB drives and 6GB RAM.
    Rabbit, Nov 12, 2007
  20. i use kaspersky and i like it
    James Matthews, Nov 13, 2007
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