Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by howardavatar, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. howardavatar

    howardavatar Guest

    After installing Norton Internet Security 2008 on my Vista Home Premium I
    noticed the WSC is not detecting it at all. On There live chat they said
    Microsoft can solve this one. So what can I do to find out why WSC is NOT
    find NIS 2008?
    TIA:)
     
    howardavatar, Oct 19, 2007
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    midway Guest

    What you might try is resetting WMI. I have had to do this several times in Vista, it seems like the SecCenter in Vista is buggy. What you do is this:

    Click on Start---All Programs---Accessories and right click on Command Prompt.
    Select "Run as Administrator"
    When the cmd window pops up you should be in the /windows/system32 directory.
    Type cd wbem
    Type or paste the following:

    net stop winmgmt

    rmdir /s /q repository

    net start winmgmt

    Exit the command window and bring up Security Center. It will inform you that the service has been turned off so click on the button presented to turn it back on. After a few minutes the Repository will be rebuilt and hopefully it will see NIS 2008.

    BTW, I also use NIS 2008 and loving it :)
     
    midway, Oct 19, 2007
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    Kayman Guest

    The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc. Uninstall it
    using Norton's own uninstall tool
    http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039
    and get a refund :)
    As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before
    proceeding.
    While Norton's removal tool usually gets the job done, you may also want to
    go to:
    http://www.snapfiles.com/get/winsockxpfix.html
    and download a copy of winsockxpfix just in case. Rarely, the removal of
    NIS breakes the networking components in XP to the point where internet
    access is impossible. This little utility will fix it back up.
    If the Norton removal tool doesn't work satisfactory use this:
    Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily
    http://www.revouninstaller.com/
    and/or
    RegSeeker
    http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm
    RegSeeker will remove all associated detritus (registry keys,files and
    folders) from any application. I found this application user friendly and
    very effective but suggest *not* to use the 'Clean the Registry' option.
    Click onto 'Find in registry' and in the 'Search for' box type *Norton*;
    The pertinent registry keys can then be safely deleted (just in case,
    ensure that the 'Backup before deletion' is checked). Repeat the task by
    typing in the Search for' box *Symantec*. You can then go on search and
    remove associated files as well.
    Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions.
    http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt

    Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine!
    Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom
    Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. In
    fact, most of experts (incl. Norton) believe that scanning incoming and
    outgoing mail causes e-mail file corruption.

    Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic - Free
    http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html

    Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
    http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
    (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
    Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)

    AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
    http://free.grisoft.com/

    Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free
    http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser

    ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free
    http://www.eset.com/
    Have you seen these "extra settings for NOD32"?
    http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=37509

    On-demand AV application (add it to your arsenal and use it as a "second
    opinion" av scanner).
    BitDefender10 Free Edition
    http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-14-en--BitDefender-8-Free-Edition.html

    A-S applications (grab'em all).

    The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and
    oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that
    cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple
    products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what
    another may miss.

    SuperAntispyware - Free
    http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html

    Ad-Aware - Free
    http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
    http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html

    Spybot Search & Destroy - Free
    http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html

    Windows Defender - Free
    http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
    Interesting reading:
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html
    "...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects
    changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about
    the actual threat."

    Some more useful applications:
    Spyware Blaster - Free
    http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

    Rootkit Revealer - Free
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/RootkitRevealer.mspx

    Crap Cleaner - Free
    http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/
    If Windows Defender is utilized go to Applications, under Utilities
    uncheck "Windows Defender"

    CW Shredder - Free
    http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Popup-Ad-Spyware-Blockers/CWShredder.shtml

    You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in
    itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using.

    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0905.mspx
    http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/WFP.mspx

    Jesper's Blog
    http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx
    http://blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/05/01/426921.aspx

    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
    "If you try to block outbound connections from a computer that’s already
    compromised, how can you be sure that the computer is really doing what you
    ask? The answer: you can’t. Outbound protection is security theater—it’s a
    gimmick that only gives the impression of improving your security without
    doing anything that actually does improve your security. This is why
    outbound protection didn’t exist in the Windows XP firewall and why it
    doesn’t exist in the Windows Vista™ firewall."

    Vista Firewall Control
    http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/

    Good luck :)
     
    Kayman, Oct 19, 2007
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    midway Guest

    "The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your PC" What are you
    basing this on, 2006-back? It is clear you haven't used '07-up. Stop the
    bashing and try to help the poster. Other programs have messed SecCenter up
    as well, either it is a bug or software writers haven't figured out to write
    the uninstall routines right for Vista yet. I have had to do this several
    times on different AV and firewall programs so it isn't Norton's fault.

    BTW, the SymNRT is supposed to be used only if the add/remove fails or if
    you want to clean up some more after a successful remove. It does NOT
    replace add/remove and using it as so will cause problems on future installs
    of other programs. Remove NIS via add/remove first and then run SymNRT.

    As far as comparisons go, NAV beats KAV on every performance test except
    bootup time:
    http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6600_7-6768133-1.html?tag=nl.e724

    Also NAV has a higher detection rate than KAV and NOD32 as of the last test
    at AV Comparatives:
    http://www.av-comparatives.org/index.html?http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/comparatives.html

    So you Norton bashers are going to have to find another victim. There are
    user inputs out there that said that NIS '08 is even lighter than Symantec
    Endpoint Protection 11 (the new corporate SAV) so that should tell you how
    light Norton is now.
     
    midway, Oct 20, 2007
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    Kayman Guest

    Bashing? It is clear you haven't comprehend my message. Read again!
    It is certainly not the fault of the makers of the OS!

    Again, you do seem to have problems comprehending simple composed messages.
    --
     
    Kayman, Oct 20, 2007
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    midway Guest

    Yes, yes. I have seen your posts in here (and others of your ilk)
    proclaiming Norton is the source of all evil. And it is clear you know
    nothing of Norton except maybe using it in the past when it was bloatware
    because you didn't even know how to use SymNRT correctly.

    And to comment on your "irrelevant drivel", you are aware that this is a
    VISTA forum and of course the poster already has Windows Defender. And I
    noticed you mentioned NIS breaking XP. It pretty much tells me you have all
    this typed down nice and neat and stored somewhere ready to cut and paste it
    when you see the word "Norton" (or any other AV you don't care for).

    Go search in other security forums. You will notice that other people have
    had this same problem with SecCenter even with the "irrevelant" AV's you
    mentioned.
     
    midway, Oct 20, 2007
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    midway Guest

    Yes, yes. I have seen your posts in here (and others of your ilk)
    proclaiming Norton is the source of all evil. And it is clear you know
    nothing of Norton except maybe using it in the past when it was bloatware
    because you didn't even know how to use SymNRT correctly.

    And to comment on your "irrelevant drivel", you are aware that this is a
    VISTA forum and of course the poster already has Windows Defender. And I
    noticed you mentioned NIS breaking XP. It pretty much tells me you have all
    this typed down nice and neat and stored somewhere ready to cut and paste it
    when you see the word "Norton" (or any other AV you don't care for).

    Go search in other security forums. You will notice that other people have
    had this same problem with SecCenter even with the "irrevelant" AV's you
    mentioned.
     
    midway, Oct 20, 2007
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    Kayman Guest

    You may have seen it but you didn't comprehend.
    Instead of ranting try to educate us, how about it?
    You mean to comment on YOUR drivel!
    Yes, I am.
    Really, did I?
    Yes and no - "care for" is not the issue; Efficiency is! (Look up the word
    in the dictionary).
    No need; The retail version of Norton is a sorry apps.
    Oh well.
    --
     
    Kayman, Oct 20, 2007
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    midway Guest

    I do comprehend more than you know especially by your responses. Such a
    shame...



    I did mention the proper use of SymNRT. It appears that you haven't
    comprehended what I said. Of course prejudice can cause blindness in these
    cases. You are no different than the others. Not important enough for me
    to waste any more time on.



    And I didn't need a "crib sheet" for this. I "rant" in real time.
     
    midway, Oct 20, 2007
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    Kayman Guest

    Really :)
    Elaborate, please.
    You're right, I haven't; But reiterate: "Instead of ranting try to educate
    us, how about it?"
    Are representing any AV software maker by any chance?
    Yes, realistically different :)
    Now, that is a relief.
    Good on you.
    'atta boy! Bye :)
    --
     
    Kayman, Oct 20, 2007
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    David Guest

    You are a nut. NIS2007 works fine on Vista, you clueless TWIT.
     
    David, Oct 21, 2007
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    kilted1 Guest

    Midway - I tried this approach to the fixing the WMI and WSC and the buggy
    problem with NIS 2008. When the computer (running WinVista Home Premium)
    boots up, I still get the message from NIS that the antivirus is still not
    active, even though the NIS window shows that portion of the product is
    active. The computer is for a "non-techie" who gets very easily freaked out
    when they get any kind of error message outside of "normal" software updates.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! TIA!!
     
    kilted1, Jan 24, 2008
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