Not Happy With Vista

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by jgoering, Jul 7, 2007.

  1. jgoering

    jgoering Guest

    Can anyone assure me that Vista gets better? For the last two days I have
    not been able to install AIM, Itunes Real Player, or just about anything
    else. Itunes & Realplayer download, then either disapper and won't install,
    or I just get error messages. AIM takes half an hour to install then wont
    open. Im truly on the verge of taking the computer back to the store and
    getting the old one out and using XP again!
     
    jgoering, Jul 7, 2007
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  2. jgoering

    Mr. Arnold Guest

    http://www.bestvistadownloads.com/c...ultimedia-video-tools-downloads-1-25-0-d.html
     
    Mr. Arnold, Jul 7, 2007
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  3. Real player downloads and installs OK.
    I do not use AIM or I tunes but I am sure they are used by others.
    That suggests something is wrong with your computer.
    Contact the manufacturer for support or considering returning if they
    will not assist.

    Are you using the latest versions of each of those programs?

    Post details of exactly what happens with error messages when you
    attempt to install and someone will probably have a solution.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jul 7, 2007
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  4. jgoering

    ray Guest

    Most competent consultants have advised their clients to wait for at least
    SP1.
     
    ray, Jul 7, 2007
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  5. Depending on the reasons that is not necessary.
    Many of those same consultants are making those suggestions for the
    businesses they work for and upgrading to a new operating system often
    has consequences never seen by typical home users.
    So I would suggest your post is nearly valueless since there are to
    many unknowns about the OPs situation.
    It is certainly valueless as a blanket rule.

    I for one have had no problems with Windows Vista on my two older
    computers since installation in November.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jul 7, 2007
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  7. jgoering

    Frank Guest

    No, that's really not true at all.
    Only the incompetent consultants are advising their clients not to
    upgrade to Vista until SP1 comes out. That will allow them (the
    incompetent consultants) to try and learn the ins and outs of Vista so
    they don't look like the fools they really are when their clients do
    upgrade to Vista.

    On the other hand, the really competent consultants, the ones who know
    what they're doing, are advising their clients to upgrade to Vista if
    they desire to because, (the competent consultants) know Vista and they
    know what they're doing.
    That's the real truth!
    Frank
     
    Frank, Jul 7, 2007
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  8. Funny, since it was you Frank saying YOUR "consultants" needed six
    months to figure out Vista. LOL!

    You want the truth? You're as phony as a three dollar bill. Why do you
    try to fake being some computer expert? You are no such thing and
    everybody knows it.
     
    Adam Albright, Jul 7, 2007
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  9. jgoering

    Kerry Brown Guest


    It's not as simple as that. It depends on how big the network is. Is active
    directory involved? Are there any 'nix or Novell servers on the network? Are
    there any incompatible LOB applications? Are their computers and other
    hardware Vista compatible? Do they have remote users? There is no black and
    white, yes or no, answer when it comes to upgrading anything in a business
    situation. I like to think I'm reasonably competent. I've been using Vista
    every day for well over a year and over eight months exclusively on my
    Windows computers. I'm pretty sure I know Vista better than most people. I
    administer several networks on contract ranging in size from a couple of
    PC's to over a hundred. I haven't recommended any of my business clients
    upgrade to Vista yet. Even when buying new computers I'm still recommending
    XP for them. Once some key personnel are interested I'll recommend they try
    Vista at home first for a month or so then at work. Once they're comfortable
    and can help other users on their network I "may" recommend Vista but it
    will be all or nothing at that point. It costs a business too much to
    support two OS' in most cases. It's also much cheaper to train employees if
    they have the same OS at home as at work. It's not that I don't think Vista
    isn't ready for business use. It's the other way around. Most businesses are
    not ready for Vista.
     
    Kerry Brown, Jul 7, 2007
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  10. jgoering

    Frank Guest

    "Funny" is that you you've made up a lie about something I never ever
    said simply to cover you're own incompetent stupid a*s.
    I know the truth and you can't handle it!
    You're fu*kin drunk again!
    Sober up loser!
    Frank
     
    Frank, Jul 7, 2007
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    Lang Murphy Guest


    I have not installed any of the programs you've listed. So... can't help you
    specifically with any of them. I would say, yes, Vista -can- get better. If
    Vista was pre-installed on your new computer, it's the OEM's (original
    equipment manufacturer) responsibility to support Vista. Pull out your
    documentation, find the Help phone number for your PC's manufacturer and
    call it.

    Lang
     
    Lang Murphy, Jul 7, 2007
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  12. jgoering

    Terry R. Guest

    No, that's really not true at all.
    Only the incompetent consultants are advising their clients not to
    upgrade to Vista until SP1 comes out. That will allow them (the
    incompetent consultants) to try and learn the ins and outs of Vista so
    they don't look like the fools they really are when their clients do
    upgrade to Vista.

    On the other hand, the really competent consultants, the ones who know
    what they're doing, are advising their clients to upgrade to Vista if
    they desire to because, (the competent consultants) know Vista and they
    know what they're doing.
    That's the real truth!
    Frank[/QUOTE]

    Hi Frank,

    You missed it on this one. The incompetent consultants ARE recommending
    Vista, just so they can increase their bottom line. The competent ones
    want to keep their clients working smoothly.

    If you have facts to support your statements, I'd love to see them.

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    Terry R., Jul 7, 2007
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  13. jgoering

    Terry R. Guest

    On 7/6/2007 7:05 PM On a whim, Jupiter Jones [MVP] pounded out on the
    keyboard
    Two home computers is not quite the same as 25 to 100 (or more) on a
    domain. If you can't speak on that level, you're speaking to most home
    users. I have 6 computers at my home, and that isn't comparing apples
    to apples.

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    Terry R., Jul 7, 2007
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  14. jgoering

    Kerry Brown Guest

    Hi Frank,

    You missed it on this one. The incompetent consultants ARE recommending
    Vista, just so they can increase their bottom line. The competent ones
    want to keep their clients working smoothly.

    If you have facts to support your statements, I'd love to see them.
    [/QUOTE]


    I disagree with this as well. I can easily imagine cases where I might
    recommend Vista. In a new network with all new hardware Vista would be a
    great fit. They would get the benefit of not having the cost and downtime of
    upgrading at a later date. A competent consultant recommends the best
    solution for the client not their favourite OS or even what they know best.
     
    Kerry Brown, Jul 7, 2007
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  15. Terry;
    You assume much from my post, some apparently false.
    I never said how many computers I have or maintain

    Read the OPs post again.
    It seems the OP is referring to one computer, a typical home user
    without a domain.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jul 7, 2007
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  16. "Only the incompetent consultants are advising their clients not to
    upgrade to Vista until SP1 comes out."
    FALSE.
    Any consultant giving blanket advice without taking into consideration
    the individual organizations needs and circumstances is incompetent.
    For some there is legitimate reason to wait, for others, they should
    make the move now.
    This is very similar to what happened when Windows XP was released
    almost 6 years ago and will probably be repeated at the release of the
    next OS.
    This is not any type of problem, it is simply different organizations
    tailoring their purchasing to their needs.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jul 7, 2007
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  17. "The incompetent consultants ARE...", if that is their actual reason
    Very true.
    Any consultant giving blanket advice without taking into consideration
    the individual organizations needs and circumstances is incompetent.
    For some there is legitimate reason to wait, for others, they should
    make the move now.
    This is very similar to what happened when Windows XP was released
    almost 6 years ago and will probably be repeated at the release of the
    next OS.
    This is not any type of problem, it is simply different organizations
    tailoring their purchasing to their needs.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jul 7, 2007
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  18. jgoering

    Frank Guest

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    Hi Terry,
    No, you missed it on this one. The competent consultants ARE
    recommending Vista because they know what they're doing and are
    confident in their abilities.
    Whereas the incompetent ones want to keep their clients (the few that
    they actually have) and are afraid to recommend Vista because they
    haven't yet acuminated themselves to the nuances of Vista.
    In other words they're lost and don't know what they're doing.

    If you have facts to support your statements, I'd love to see them.
    Frank
     
    Frank, Jul 7, 2007
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  19. Mentioning facts, lets see the source for yours.
    "The competent consultants ARE recommending Vista because they know
    what they're doing and are confident in their abilities."
    These consultants sound quite incompetent if they are not taking into
    account the organizations needs and circumstances.

    The organizations needs and circumstances have no connection to the
    consultants abilities.
    If for some reason there is a connection, fire the incompetent and
    hire someone competent.

    Your extreme position on this issue is simply wrong as most extreme
    positions.

    See my other post.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jul 7, 2007
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    Terry R. Guest

    On 7/6/2007 10:26 PM On a whim, Kerry Brown pounded out on the keyboard
    Ah, but we haven't been talking about "new" networks. I agree with you
    on this, and if Frank was speaking of such, my error.

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    Terry R., Jul 7, 2007
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