Number of Linux Distributions Surpasses Number of Users !!!!!!

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Moshe Goldfarb, Apr 6, 2008.

  1. "Somewhere in California - At 8:30 PDT with the release of Snoopy Linux 2.1
    and Goober Linux 1.0, the number of Linux distributions finally surpassed
    the number of actual Linux users."


    "We've been expecting it for some time," Merrill Lynch technology analyst
    Tom Shayes said, "but this is a little sooner than most expected. We've
    seen explosive growth in the number of Linux distributions, in fact my
    nephew just put out LittleLinux Chart Tommy Linux 1.1 last week."


    http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/4/linux_distros.html
     
    Moshe Goldfarb, Apr 6, 2008
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  2. Moshe Goldfarb

    Hadron Guest

    Kewl! Does it "rock" and "work really well"? Does it meet your "needs"?
    LOL. At least some people get it.
     
    Hadron, Apr 6, 2008
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  3. Moshe Goldfarb

    ray Guest

    Must be somewhat similar to vista stats - 150 million units sold; 50 in
    use.
     
    ray, Apr 6, 2008
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  4. Hahaha!

    Linux and the Linux community is a ball of confusion, a clusterfsck that is
    fragmented, filled with hateful, arrogant people and which has no direction
    or leadership.

    Everyone is free to do their own thing, which is fine if you wish to remain
    like the above.
    However if Linux ever has a hope of challenging Microsoft for the desktop
    it is going to have to reign in the confusion and become organized, even if
    it is loosely organized at first.

    They can start with why the need for so many different package managers.

    Then they can move to why they need 15 different sound systems.

    Why so many different native file systems.

    Why different startup and shutdown scripts doing different things at the
    various levels in the boot/shutdown process.

    Why so many different, and duplicate tools to mange the distribution.

    An example is Samba.

    There has to be a dozen or more tools to set up Samba and for anyone who
    has attempted to set up Samba they know how confusing it is.
    The net is clogged with How-To's on this topic and it is surely one of the
    most frequently asked questions in Linux help groups.


    They should take the best of the best, meld it into ONE TOTALLY WORKING
    distribution and then put all the other stuff in a repository free to
    download if anyone wants to.
    This way they can take all of these people who are working on their own
    distributions and pool their resources and talent to create a Linux that
    actually works instead of the slopware (mostly) that is what desktop Linux
    currently is.

    But the Linux community won't allow this because they cry "we want
    choice!!"

    Evidently they want inferior slopware programs as well.
     
    Moshe Goldfarb, Apr 6, 2008
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  5. Why the obsession with Windows and Microsoft?
    What are you guys afraid of?
     
    Moshe Goldfarb, Apr 6, 2008
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  6. Moshe Goldfarb

    Liarnut Guest


    http://distrowatch.com/
    Development Release: PUD GNU/Linux 0.4.8.6 LXDE Edition
    "Pin-Shiun Chen just announced a special version of PUD GNU/Linux, an
    Ubuntu-based mini distribution based on the newest LXDE 0.3: "This edition
    of live CD....."


    LMAO Lxers will be pounding their PUDs now.
     
    Liarnut, Apr 6, 2008
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  7. Yep.

    Yet another Linux distribution is born.
    More confusion.
    More slopware.
    Same, even after 10 years, 0.6 percent desktop market share.
     
    Moshe Goldfarb, Apr 6, 2008
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  8. Moshe Goldfarb

    Rick Guest

    .... more illegal market manipulation?
     
    Rick, Apr 6, 2008
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  9. Moshe Goldfarb

    caver1 Guest


    Maybe the software has a little ways to go but it is improving rapidly.
    with more Linux distros than users just shows how much smarter Linux
    users are than windows users.
    From the looks of it many more Linux users can create their own OS.
    Almost non of the Windows users can.
    caver1
     
    caver1, Apr 6, 2008
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  10. Moshe Goldfarb

    caver1 Guest


    At least someone thought of giving them pleasure. MS sure don't.
    caver1
     
    caver1, Apr 6, 2008
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  11. Moshe Goldfarb

    NoStop Guest

    Your butt-buddy is working on it now as you type. Just have a little
    patience. It's coming!

    Cheers.

    --
    The world can't afford the rich.

    How to get help at Microsoft Support ...


    Francis (Frank) adds a new "gadget" to his Vista box ...
    Download it here: http://tinyurl.com/2hnof6
     
    NoStop, Apr 6, 2008
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  12. Moshe Goldfarb

    NoStop Guest

    When do you have the time Mr. Soap Dish, to try out all these distros as
    they come out so that you can pass your ultimate judgement on them?
    Yeh sure, whatever you say Mr. Soap On A Rope. Your contributions to
    spreading FUD I'm sure is duly noted by your paymasters at MickeyMouse.

    Cheers.


    --
    The world can't afford the rich.

    How to get help at Microsoft Support ...


    Francis (Frank) adds a new "gadget" to his Vista box ...
    Download it here: http://tinyurl.com/2hnof6
     
    NoStop, Apr 6, 2008
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  13. Moshe Goldfarb

    brummyfan Guest

    Ubuntu expands your wisdom and provide you with plenty of choices so that
    you decide what is suitable and comfortable to work with unlike Vista which
    thinks you are an idiot and you have nothing else worth while to do.
    I use both but the difference is I chose to use Ubuntu and the Vista has
    been dumped on me by the manufacturer of the laptop.
     
    brummyfan, Apr 6, 2008
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  14. Of course Linux has been improving, but being able to create your own
    distribution of the month caters to a small subset of geeks and does
    nothing but further the confusion.

    The vast majority of the market are USERS not geek programmer types.
    That is one major reason why Linux does not appeal to average Joe.
     
    Moshe Goldfarb, Apr 6, 2008
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  15. What is it with Linux user and World War II atrocities?
    You guys are truly sicko...
     
    Moshe Goldfarb, Apr 6, 2008
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  16. Moshe Goldfarb

    netcat Guest

    You don't have to be a geek. Under Ubuntu all it takes is one command to
    generate a LiveDVD using your current setup. You can use the LiveDVD on
    future reinstalls or if you plan to install to more than one machine, and
    you can also boot it on the same machine or a different one and have the
    same settings and applications as on your HD. Throw in a USB drive for
    persistent storage and you can even save data and configuration changes.
     
    netcat, Apr 6, 2008
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  17. You've just proved my point.........
     
    Moshe Goldfarb, Apr 6, 2008
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  18. Moshe Goldfarb

    Hadron Guest

    Most people (including Tattoed Lobotomy) want their desktops to work and
    have applications working that employees must use to do a job of
    work. Not something to give them pleasure.
     
    Hadron, Apr 6, 2008
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  19. Moshe Goldfarb

    Jeff Glatt Guest

    Overall, yes. But then, any sufficiently large demographic seems confused to me
    because... well, people can be really, really different from each other.
    If you're talking about the "I hate MS and everything associated with it"
    brigade, then yeah, those folks are really annoying and useless. Also, the
    Linux "unpaid salesmen" (typically referred to as "fanbois") are really
    annoying, because they're more interested in selling you on their particular
    pet distro than actually being honest and helpful. They also almost always
    belong to the aforementioned brigade, which makes them doubly useless.

    The annoyance of too many Ubuntu fanbois helped convince me to switch to
    Debian. I just found Debian to a more serious distro where you can find good
    help without having to endure fanbois as much. I was able to put together a
    Debian system to do exactly what I wanted easier than with Ubuntu.
    Overall yes. But see my comment above about large demographics.
    Yeah, that really needs to be addressed. I read an article about a guy who
    proposed to have an API added to Linux to aid in the installation of software.
    He got a bunch of developers of various package managers together, and got some
    feedback from them. The conclusion seemed to be that most of them were planning
    to simply keep doing things their own way, weren't all that interested in a
    standard Linux API for installation purposes, and didn't really have much of an
    interest in working on a more common solution. C'est la vie. So what we have is
    a bunch of package systems, and app developers who don't support them all
    because it's too much of a pain in the ass.

    When I package my software, I make a deb, and that's it. It's not that I have
    anything against other package managers, but I happen to use apt-based distros,
    and I just don't have the time nor inclination to bother with the package
    managers of other distros. If those folks don't want to make it easier for me,
    then I'm not interested in them.
    Because nearly all of them have their flaws, being designed by people who have
    some good ideas, but unfortunately, do not seem to choose to have those ideas
    peer reviewed by appropriate people (other sound developers, musicians, etc)
    before coding starts. This is a really big problem with lots of open source
    development. People start coding without taking the extra step of first writing
    up some sort of detailed documentation about how the API will work, and getting
    that peer-reviewed by other folks who could give good feedback (and maybe
    propose some changes that will head off a lot of future dissatisfaction with
    the finished code, and forestall a reason for those other dissatisfied folks to
    start their own sound system. For some reason, those other dissatisfied folks
    repeat the same mistake of not doing what the first programmer should have
    done).

    I always write up the docs for my software before I even start coding. I
    *never* use any sort of utility that creates docs from comments in the source
    code, and I think that stuff should be outlawed because it encourages people to
    fail to do enough "flow charting" and proper peer review before they start
    coding.
    Probably for the same reasons as above.
    I'm sort of with you here. But actually I want more real choice. What I'm
    getting with Linux is a bunch of choices that are, to me, pretty much all the
    same thing. For example, I don't want a choice between a GUI API that runs atop
    of X (and inherents its inherent limitations and design flaws) such as Gnome,
    and another GUI API that runs atop of X too such as KDE. I want people to
    support more real choices, like instead of dividing up programming attention
    between those two, maybe support something that really is much more different
    (such as directfb). I don't want a choice between Pulse Audio (ick) or ALSA
    (better than Pulse Audio, but still with its problems -- problems that Pulse
    Audio inherents because it rides on top of ALSA). I want a choice between sound
    systems that really do have a radically different approach. Etc.

    There are way, way too many Linux "choices" that are far too similiar, have the
    same basic set of features and limitations, and seem to exist simply because
    people aren't collaborating better. I'd rather see more collaboration among
    people who are doing pretty much the same thing, and encourage "choice" where
    it really offers something significantly different. The problem Linux has is
    that people aren't collaborating enough when they should, nor are they doing
    something significantly different when they should. We're getting choices that
    aren't enough of a choice.
     
    Jeff Glatt, Apr 6, 2008
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  20. Hey, fool. I derive great enjoyment from listening to streaming radio
    stations, burning CDs and DVDs, and watching movies.

    You're not just a troll, you really ARE stupid.
     
    Tattoo Vampire, Apr 6, 2008
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