Okay SBS is a great deal

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by barney, Oct 19, 2004.

  1. barney

    barney Guest

    But where's the catch?

    Not intended as a troll, really! Just why is so much offered at such a low
    price, considering the cost of individual components.

    I'd really be interested in the groups opinions.
    barney, Oct 19, 2004
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  2. No catch. For a small business, SBS lets you have enterprise-class software
    at an affordable price. Speaking for our own business, at the time we
    started with SBS we didn't have a fraction of the budget for the separate
    apps. It's not that we bought SBS instead of the separate products, we
    bought it instead of nothing, so a lot of these SBS sales are probably
    incremental business for MS.

    IMO good computing experiences generate enthusiasm for more computing. In
    addition to SBS, we have all these copies of Office, Visio, PowerPoint,
    Publisher, FrontPage, etc. And that's not counting the Office installs on
    home computers that access over VPN. If we were still on the old
    peer-to-peer network, my guess is that we'd be using Word and not much else,
    so MS has picked up all those additional software sales. Athough I very
    much doubt our network will grow beyond 75 users, for those whose companies
    do get that big, I'd bet most of them are going to full version Exchange and
    2k3 server at the least.
    Dave Nickason [SBS MVP], Oct 20, 2004
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  3. Penetrate untapped markets to sell products that a small business
    would never spend $5,000 or more to buy. They already spent the money
    on R&D of the big products. They just have to spend a bit of money on
    a group to make the individual products a bit more friendly to use.
    That friendly research is used in the next versions of the big

    Jim B. SBS Community Member
    remove the mvp to send email
    Jim Behning SBS MVP, Oct 20, 2004
  4. barney

    barney Guest

    [sorry, can't top-post, it's against my religion.]

    I think that's a sound assessment. SBS draws (not wanting to sound too
    sinister) a smaller business into the world of IT and hence the MS world of

    I guess it'll lead to the inevitable deterioration of skills in other OS's
    (by nipping Linux in the bud) and a long term commitment to upgradesville.

    So is that it, it's a marketing strategy?
    barney, Oct 20, 2004
  5. barney

    barney Guest

    There's several ways you can look at that; one being don't look a gift
    horse in the mouth, the other being (a tad more cynical) that we'll all be
    working for the MAN.

    I guess this isn't the place to express concerns about monopolies and the
    future ramifications of such, but, well... It is slightly unnerving - a bit
    of competition would be good to see.
    barney, Oct 20, 2004
  6. Barney,

    There are several locations that make use of SBS2000 that I help to
    administer. SBS2000 is a really good product, and SBS2003 is supposed to be
    even better! But the price for the Enterprise Version is getting up there.
    But there is a reason for that. The Standard Version is sufficient for most
    smaller companies.

    There is really no catch. Honest! Sure, you can not set up a trust with
    another domain ( for obvious reasons ) and you are putting all of your eggs
    in one basket ( but don't a lot of small companies do that with respect to
    IT anyway? ). Still, you are getting a really great product at a price that
    is very competitive and attractive.

    Does Linux have a chance in this market? Sure they do. There are a couple
    of 'versions' of Linux that look pretty good and offer something similar to
    SBS. But, you have to have Linux-trained people to support that
    environment. I am pretty sure that this is a whole lot more difficult today
    than it will be in three years. But if we do not have an IT infrastructure
    today then we do not need to worry about three years from today, do we?

    is there a specific reason for posting this message? Are you looking for a
    reason to go with SBS - or for a reason to go with some 'version' of Linux?
    I am sure that you could get a really good argument from both sides.


    Cary Shultz [A.D. MVP], Oct 20, 2004
  7. barney

    barney Guest

    Hmm I dunno really, no specific reason as such, just that sometimes one
    smells something a little fishy and wants to explore the waters.

    I think it's probably the "eggs in one basket" that concerns me the most
    but hell it shouldn't I'm an MCSD and it's not my money either. :)

    It's just that, well, you know, one can't help but be slightly wary of MS
    before committng.
    barney, Oct 20, 2004
  8. The real catch my man?

    We can't take any part of it off the box.

    Other than that... it's that good.
    Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP], Oct 20, 2004
  9. Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP], Oct 20, 2004
  10. it's good enough that when I changed job direction, and went to work for
    myself 4+ years ago, and I looked at the small business marketplace, the
    SBS2000/2003 product jumped out at me as a perfect solution to promote, sell
    and install!
    Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP], Oct 20, 2004
  11. Well, it's common practice in MS newsgroups. When in Rome...
    ..... note that those complaining about top posting will soon see
    side-posting from me!
    If you grow beyond 75 users, or need Exchange Enterprise, etc., you 'll want
    to migrate to the full retail products. I like SBD 2003 and never thought
    any prior SBS version worth my time.
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange], Oct 20, 2004
  12. I still support a lot of single-server shops running retail W2k and E2k. SBS
    is decent bang for the buck and I'd love for them to upgrade to it. If they
    can afford multiple servers, that's a different story - often they can't.
    Yes, I understand.
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange], Oct 20, 2004
  13. are you gonna teach the rest of us how to do that??? (bows humbly) or is
    that one of those "Exchange MVP Only" tools...lol

    Please do not respond to me directly by email but only in the newsgroups so
    that all can benefit from the information
    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    Cris Hanna \(SBS-MVP\), Oct 20, 2004
  14. barney

    barney Guest

    I know MS groups convention (blame OE), but still I can't bring myself to
    do it.

    but side
    posting ist
    so bad
    barney, Oct 20, 2004
  15. barney

    barney Guest

    Yes, no doubt it's a screamer of a deal - but my daddy tol'me; "no such
    thing as a free lunch", guess he was wrong?
    barney, Oct 20, 2004
  16. Keheheheh. I'm not authorized to disclose this information due to my NDA.
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange], Oct 20, 2004
  17. It's not really free, tho, is it? I mean, if it is, I'll take a dozen.

    SBS has limitations as everyone has said. But for small offices, it can be a
    real godsend.
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange], Oct 20, 2004
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