OT: I just bought a Core 2 Duo Apple Mac Mini Computer.

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by kevpan815, Sep 4, 2006.

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    OT: I just bought a Core 2 Duo Apple Mac Mini Computer.

    Kevin John Panzke (MSDN Subscriber).
     
    kevpan815, Sep 4, 2006
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  2. lol... And?
     
    [email protected], Sep 4, 2006
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  3. I just bought one, too !
    I have already downloaded Boot Camp Beta and installed WinXP Pro alongside
    Mac OS 10.4.6. Kinda defeats the purpose, huh ??? Can`t seem to get away from Windows .......... John.
     
    Administrator\\jhafele, Sep 4, 2006
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    kevpan815 Guest

    I bought mine Online (from Apple's Online Store), so I have to wait for it to
    arrive at my house, before i can try out the Boot Camp Beta, from now on, I
    am no longer going to buy another DELL Computer ever again (DELL's Technical
    Support Staff is horrible). I also cancelled my order for the New Mother
    Board from DELL as well.

    Kevin John Panzke (MSDN Subscriber).
     
    kevpan815, Sep 4, 2006
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    kevpan815 Guest

    And, has anyone tried Windows Vista RC1 on their Apple Mac yet?
     
    kevpan815, Sep 4, 2006
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    Bones Guest

    If you think Dell's tech support is bad, wait till you install Boot Camp.
    Neither Apple nor MS will touch it.
     
    Bones, Sep 4, 2006
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    Bill Condie Guest

    I'm waitinf for YOU

     
    Bill Condie, Sep 4, 2006
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  8. Apple`s Mac Intel units can NOT run Vista !! They can only run WinXP Pro or Home versions with SP2 " integrated " into the operating system. Service Pack 2 can NOT be on a seperate CD. The associated Apple Boot Camp software will ONLY accept WinXP SP2 and contains all the drivers necessary to run the M/S O.S. on the Mac machine. The Boot Camp software is necessary to set up the boot manager and options for this combined operation ......................... John
     
    Administrator\\jhafele, Sep 4, 2006
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    Bill Condie Guest

    And I almost got one, just for Vista
    Apple`s Mac Intel units can NOT run Vista !! They can only run WinXP Pro or Home versions with SP2 " integrated " into the operating system. Service Pack 2 can NOT be on a seperate CD. The associated Apple Boot Camp software will ONLY accept WinXP SP2 and contains all the drivers necessary to run the M/S O.S. on the Mac machine. The Boot Camp software is necessary to set up the boot manager and options for this combined operation ......................... John
     
    Bill Condie, Sep 5, 2006
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    Joe Ogiba Guest

    I just checked the Apple store and I don't see any Core 2 Duo Mac Mini's
    there. BTW I built a Core 2 Duo PC to dual boot XP and Vista and it runs
    great.
     
    Joe Ogiba, Sep 5, 2006
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    Lang Murphy Guest

    Good lord... why?

    How could anyone think running XP in Bootcamp is going to be better than
    running XP on a PC? And for the money, geez-louise, you get so much more
    bang for the buck buying a Dell (or any other type of PC for that matter).

    You said yourself that the problem with your Dell was created by user error.
    So... Dell wouldn't give you a new MoBo because you fried yours and that's
    their fault? Hmmm...

    I seriously thought about getting a Mac Mini when I was in the market for
    something to replace my XPS Gen 2 which has the loudest dang fans going. For
    the money, I just couldn't justify it. Ended up getting a Dell XPS 400 with
    which I've been quite happy.

    Got Vista running on 3 Dell's here. Good luck getting it to run in Bootcamp.

    Lang


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    Lang Murphy, Sep 5, 2006
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    Paula Guest

    Hmmmmmmmmm I have an XPS gen 2 laptop and my fans aren't loud a all!
    I wonder why yours were?
    Paula
     
    Paula, Sep 5, 2006
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    Tom Lake Guest

    That has a Core Duo but not a Core 2 Duo. Is there an Intel Mac that
    has the newer Core 2 Duo CPU?

    Tom Lake
     
    Tom Lake, Sep 5, 2006
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    Lang Murphy Guest

    LOL... I've got an XPS Gen 2 desktop, not a laptop...

    Lang
     
    Lang Murphy, Sep 5, 2006
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  16. This is simply NOT TRUE. I have installed Vista on my Apple Intel PC
    (Intel iMac 17") several times with no trouble at all.

    ALL you have to do is DELETE the 200MB EFI partition during Vista
    installation. This will not keep you from booting back into OS X if
    needed, nor will it keep OS X from running properly.

    However, you will have to either hold down "C" when booting, or use
    the Apple Remote, and hold down the "Menu" button when the Silver
    screen first appears. This is because the "Startup Disk" option is
    not installed in Vista when you install the Apple Windows drivers disk
    (which works quite well in Vista). You will have to download the ATI
    beta driver for Vista from http://www.ati.com, however. If your Apple
    is either a MacBook, MacBook Pro, or an iMac, you will have to
    download the "MOBILITY" version of the ATI unified driver.

    However, there IS a proviso: Once the EFI partition is deleted, it
    will not be possible to update your Apple firmware until you reinstall
    the EFI partition (which is possible) or reinstall OS X.

    This has been fixed, so I hear, in RC1, however. Vista will now
    install without removing the EFI partition first. Nor is it necessary
    to use a hard-wired network cable to download the Apple wireless
    driver from Microsoft, since it is now on the Vista RC1 distribution
    DVD.

    Please, stop circulating FUD.


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    Donald L McDaniel, Sep 5, 2006
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  17. Boot Camp Beta (1.1) works great with Vista. Apple couldn't have made
    it any simpler.

    That neither Apple nor Microsoft support BootCamp is irrelevant, since
    if you can't provide your own product support, you shouldn't be
    installing a Beta OS in the first place, especially on an untried
    computer. But the Apple Intels are extremely easy to set up and use,
    as well as maintain. I do suggest that you wait on purchasing a Dual
    Duo-Core Mac (read "Mac Pro"), since there are very few 64bit drivers
    for Vista right now. Also, keep in mind that only Mac Pros are user
    upgradable for anything other than memory. If you buy an Intel iMac,
    MAKE SURE you order it with the 250GB HD option rather than the
    standard 150GB HD, since it will be HELL to upgrade later (it's simply
    not user-upgradable). Also, the maximum the memory of any Apple Intel
    machine can be is 2GB (other than the Mac Pros, which are able to be
    upgraded to 4GB). In my opinion, the default amount of memory Apple
    provides with its Apple Intels is HALF of what you will need, so max
    the memory out (but NOT from Apple, since they charge a premium for
    their memory).

    1) Install Boot Camp Assistant Beta 1.1 in OS X
    2) Start Boot Camp Assistant in OS X
    3) Set the Windows partition size (I suggest at least half of your
    Apple HD). In the first place, Vista will not even install on a
    partition of LESS than 20GB (although afterward, it will run in 12gb),
    and I suggest a MINIMUM of 80GB for your Vista partition.
    4) Burn the Apple Windows drivers disk in Boot Camp Assistant,
    5) Stick the Vista DVD in
    6) Once the Vista installer starts, delete the EFI partition
    7) Wait for Vista to install.
    8) Once Vista boots, install the Apple drivers disk, as well as the
    ATI Unified driver for your Apple model (remember, the Intel iMacs and
    all the Intel laptops (as well as the MacMini) use the ATI MOBILITY
    chips, and will need the MOBILITY Vista beta drivers)
    9) Don't forget to take proper security measures while in Vista, such
    as turning on Firewall and installing a Vista-compatible AV package.
    This will not be necessary while in OS X, since there is effectively
    no malware being written for OS X.

    By the way, XP Pro runs GREAT on my Apple Intel iMac 17" with 2GB
    memory. In fact, it runs BETTER on my Intel iMac than it EVER did on
    my BEST Wintel machine. It's FAST and STABLE, which is what I like.

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    Donald L McDaniel, Sep 6, 2006
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  18. The Mac Pros have two Dual-Core Intel Xenon 64bit chips, while the
    rest of the Intel Macs have single Dual-Core 32bit chips.

    The Core 2 Duos will probably be announced on Sept 12, and Gen-2 Intel
    iMacs, MacBook Pros, and Mac Pros will have them.

    I doubt very seriously whether the logic board on the MacMinis can
    take 64bit chips, much less the Core 2 Duos.

    The MacMini is just too under-powered to take Core 2 Duos.

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    Donald L McDaniel, Sep 6, 2006
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  19. Tom, don't believe a word this "Administrator\jhafele" dude posts. He
    is patently full of crap.

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    Donald L McDaniel, Sep 6, 2006
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  20. I am running XP Pro SP2 on my MacBook Pro 15". Setup was very
    straightforward and is the same across the Intel Mac line. The current Mac
    Drivers for XP are at beta 1.1.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Sep 6, 2006
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