Outlook Express

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by Merle, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. Merle

    Merle Guest

    Is it possible to uninstall outlook express and if so How? I get tired of
    the nag screen to compact my messages
     
    Merle, Jun 22, 2009
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  2. [Crossposted to OE General]

    No, you cannot uninstall Outlook Express (OE). You can remove access to OE
    but doing so will not remove the Automatic Compacting nag.

    Assuming WinXP SP3:

    See this June 2008 discussion about this WinXP SP3-specific problem:
    http://groups.google.com/group/micr...ss.general/browse_frm/thread/fcd35fbfa457fd6f

    For reference, here's a current list of items known to cause this behavior
    (which is NOT being seen by the vast majority of OE users) in "most often
    seen" order

    • Nero plug-in(s) including Nero Scout*;
    • Windows (Desktop) Search is installed <=usual culprit!!
    [FIX: Uninstall Windows (Desktop) Search or CONTROL PANEL | INDEXING
    OPTIONS | MODIFY | Clear the check box for Outlook Express];
    • IBM Rapid Access keyboard (driver) RAKDLL.DLL;
    • Various & sundry anti-virus applications (including Norton);
    • Various & sundry anti-spyware applications;
    • Various & sundry third-party firewalls;
    • Any/all of the above running when WinXP SP3 was installed;
    • Disk defragmentation, need for;
    • Using Visual Basic DoCmd.SendObject command to create an email;
    • Using any number third-party applications (e.g., accounting software;
    FileMaker 6) to send emails by via Outlook Express;
    • MailWasher; and/or
    • Programatically opening EML files while OE is closed (e.g., creating a
    New Message via Address Book).

    ===============
    * IN RE Nero Scout, see Item 2.3 on page 8 here:
    ftp://ftp6.nero.com/user_guides/nero8/scout/NeroScout_Enu.pdf

    Also see http://www.nero.com/eng/support-faq.html?s=sub&t=Scout
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 22, 2009
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  3. Merle

    Bruce Hagen Guest

    [crossposted to OE General newsgroup. Not an IE question]

    You no longer use OE but WLMail now? If you let OE compact, do you continue
    to see the prompt? If so, read on.

    The problem is with the registry counter that gives you the prompt after 100
    closings of OE. It is being increased quicker than it should be and even if
    you are not using OE.

    There is a growing number of programs and actions that may be causing this
    after installing SP3. Do you have any of the following?

    IBM Rapid Access keyboard (driver) RAKDLL.DLL
    Windows {Desktop} Search
    Mailwasher
    Nero plug-in(s)

    Opening EML files while OE is closed will also contribute to the registry
    count.

    Various anti-virus, anti-spyware and third party firewalls, especially if
    they were running when you installed SP3.

    Archived thread discussing this issue in June 2008:
    http://groups.google.com/group/micr...ss.general/browse_frm/thread/fcd35fbfa457fd6f

    In the case of Windows Desktop Search, (the #1 offender), you have to tell
    it to stop indexing OE.

    Windows {Desktop} Search. Set Desktop Search Options:
    http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx

    In Windows {Desktop} Search: Control Panel | Indexing Options. Click: Modify
    and clear the check box for Outlook Express.

    In the case of Nero Scout, see Item 2.3 on page 8 here.
    ftp://ftp6.nero.com/user_guides/nero8/scout/NeroScout_Enu.pdf

    In the option to exclude selected file types from indexing, be sure to add
    these file types:

    ..eml, .dbx & .nws
     
    Bruce Hagen, Jun 22, 2009
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  4. Merle

    Leonard Grey Guest

    Compacting benefits you in (at least) two ways:
    1- Reduces the possibility of lost messages due to message store corruption.
    2- Consolidates and frees up disk space.

    I'm wondering why you don't want this to happen?
     
    Leonard Grey, Jun 22, 2009
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  5. Merle

    Bruce Hagen Guest

    I'm wondering why you don't want this to happen?<

    The OP isn't using OE? <w>
     
    Bruce Hagen, Jun 22, 2009
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  6. Merle

    Spirit Guest

    You can turn off message compacting or set it to happen less often.

    WinMail - Tools - Options - Advanced Tab - Maintenance button
     
    Spirit, Jun 22, 2009
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  7. Merle

    Leonard Grey Guest

    So...if the OP never uses Outlook Express...how are there messages to
    compact?

    And if, as I recall, the compacting message appears after every 100th
    time Outlook Express is closed (default value)...and the OP never opens
    Outlook Express...who closed the program 100 times?
     
    Leonard Grey, Jun 22, 2009
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  8. Merle

    Bruce Hagen Guest

    It's a known problem. Some third party programs are responsible and Windows
    Search is the number one culprit. It indexes OE even if you are not using
    OE, causing the "closings". See mine & Robear's first replies.
     
    Bruce Hagen, Jun 22, 2009
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  9. Merle

    Leonard Grey Guest

    Thank heaven for Microsoft.
     
    Leonard Grey, Jun 22, 2009
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  10. Merle

    Bruce Hagen Guest

    Thank heaven for Microsoft.

    If it ain't broke, break it!
     
    Bruce Hagen, Jun 22, 2009
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  11. Screw MS! When we first saw this happening shortly after WinXP SP3 was
    released, MS said they couldn't reproduce the behavior and so weren't about
    to fix it. A few MVPs you know, working as a team, finally figured out the
    Usual Suspects you've seen us refer to, Leonard.
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 22, 2009
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  12. WTF does Windows Mail have to do with OP's question?
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 22, 2009
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  13. Merle

    Spirit Guest

    You need more porridge or an enema....... he said he was tired of the
    Nag Screen.....
     
    Spirit, Jun 22, 2009
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  14. Merle

    Gordon Guest

    Err in Outlook EXPRESS......
     
    Gordon, Jun 22, 2009
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  15. Merle

    Leonard Grey Guest

    Okay, the enema part I understand. I don't understand the porridge
    part...maybe because I don't eat porridge?
     
    Leonard Grey, Jun 22, 2009
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  16. Merle

    Spirit Guest

    I said "OR", you can find the # in OE also.

     
    Spirit, Jun 22, 2009
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  17. Merle

    Spirit Guest

    or read Fairy Tales? Girl with Golden Hair, 3 bears.............
     
    Spirit, Jun 22, 2009
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  18. Merle

    Bruce Hagen Guest

    The only way to slow it down in OE is in the registry and you have to keep
    going back there. A PITA and not a solution to the OP's problem.
     
    Bruce Hagen, Jun 22, 2009
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  19. Merle

    N. Miller Guest

    If Microsoft built vacuum cleaners, they would be the only MS product which
    didn't suck!
     
    N. Miller, Jun 22, 2009
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  20. Merle

    Gordon Guest

    That's your MVP gone for a burton! ;-)
     
    Gordon, Jun 22, 2009
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