per user verses per device CAL's for exchange

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by Mike Hunt, Nov 14, 2005.

  1. Mike Hunt

    Mike Hunt Guest

    Hi there,

    before I purchase sbs 2003 premium Im thinking which licensing mode I'll be
    going with. I will have more users than devices with alot of them being
    resource users for exchange (booking resources etc... ) and so Im thinking
    of going per device so I can maximise users. Trouble is Im not too sure
    about if my users try and access OWA from a remote computer that hasn't got
    a device CAL... would 'anonymous' devices need a CAL to access OWA?

    thanks
    Mike
     
    Mike Hunt, Nov 14, 2005
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  2. it is not possible to access OWA anonymously. Any entity wishing to access
    OWA must be covered by a CAL.

    But I think you need some help sorting out just what is needed. Expand a
    little on these 'resource' items.

    eg A meeting room can be set up as a resource in Exchange. Exchange users
    can see existing booking times for the room and request time in it. The room
    does not require a CAL.

    The user vs device CAL question is only indirectly related to accounts on
    the system, you may have thousands of accounts (this scenario seems a bit
    ridiculous though). Think about how people are going to access the system.

    In general, I find user CALs are required by senior staff. They wish to
    access the system from more than one device. They access OWA from their
    mate's PC, they have PDA's, maybe both an office machine and a laptop.
    'staff' generally use the PC at work and forget about work the moment they
    leave the office (if not some time before leaving :), often a device CAL is
    sufficient but you then hit a wall if they want to access OWA from home
    (maybe during holidays, when they're using their work account to stay in
    touch with friends), the individual needs will dictate whether a user CAL is
    required.

    The perfect scenario for a device CAL is warehousing. You have several guys
    in the warehouse but only a single PC. Each user only accesses from the one
    PC _however_ they may need both a group and individual account. The PC sits
    there logged in as 'warehouse' most of the time, however in order that each
    individual has their own email address each also has their own account on
    the system. A couple of times a day they logoff the 'warehouse' user, log on
    using their own account, check mail, work on individual tasks, etc... As all
    access is from the same device, a device CAL is used. It is irrelevent that
    there are thirty warehouse staff, all with individual accounts on the
    system.
     
    SuperGumby [SBS MVP], Nov 14, 2005
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  3. HI Mike,

    Welcome to SBS newsgroup.

    Issue description:
    =============

    I understand that you want to know more about how you can deploy the CAL
    for user to access Exchange 2003.

    Analyzing and suggestion:
    ==============

    1. For licensing questions, you may want to call 1-800-426-9400 (select
    option 4), Monday through Friday, 6:00 A.M. to 5:30 P.M. (PST) to speak
    directly to a Microsoft licensing specialist.

    Worldwide customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft Licensing
    Sites http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.asp to find
    contact information in their locations.

    Here I'd like to provide you with the following information:

    Two types of SBS 2003 CALs are available to choose from??device-based or
    user-based, known as device CALs or user CALs. This choice means you can
    either purchase a CAL for every device (used by any user) that accesses
    your server, or purchase a CAL for every named user that accesses your
    servers (from any device).

    For the first five CALs, at the top of the CAL End User License Agreement
    (EULA) in the retail packaging, you can choose to allocate these CALs (up
    to a maximum of five) to either user or device. Device and user CALs can
    both be used on the same server. But for easier managing and tracking, we
    strongly recommend that you buy either user CALs or device CALs, not both.

    When we access the SBS via local client from VPN or on the RWW, we all need
    license References, just as you mean if you access the OWA from a remote
    computer, if you bought a user license, you can access it via that user,
    but if you bought the device license, you might be limit to access the OWA
    on that certain devices. For more concerns about license issue, we strongly
    recommend contact license office.

    Frequently Asked Questions About Windows Small Business Server 2003
    Licensing
    http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsServer2003/sbs/techinfo/overview/licensingfa
    q.mspx


    Client Access Licensing for Windows Small Business Server 2003
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/howtobuy/CALs.mspx


    Pricing and Licensing for Windows Small Business Server 2003
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/howtobuy/pricing.mspx


    Thanks for your understanding. If you have any further concerns on license
    issue, please feel free to post back. I am glad to be of further
    assistance.



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    | it is not possible to access OWA anonymously. Any entity wishing to
    access
    | OWA must be covered by a CAL.
    |
    | But I think you need some help sorting out just what is needed. Expand a
    | little on these 'resource' items.
    |
    | eg A meeting room can be set up as a resource in Exchange. Exchange users
    | can see existing booking times for the room and request time in it. The
    room
    | does not require a CAL.
    |
    | The user vs device CAL question is only indirectly related to accounts on
    | the system, you may have thousands of accounts (this scenario seems a bit
    | ridiculous though). Think about how people are going to access the system.
    |
    | In general, I find user CALs are required by senior staff. They wish to
    | access the system from more than one device. They access OWA from their
    | mate's PC, they have PDA's, maybe both an office machine and a laptop.
    | 'staff' generally use the PC at work and forget about work the moment
    they
    | leave the office (if not some time before leaving :), often a device CAL
    is
    | sufficient but you then hit a wall if they want to access OWA from home
    | (maybe during holidays, when they're using their work account to stay in
    | touch with friends), the individual needs will dictate whether a user CAL
    is
    | required.
    |
    | The perfect scenario for a device CAL is warehousing. You have several
    guys
    | in the warehouse but only a single PC. Each user only accesses from the
    one
    | PC _however_ they may need both a group and individual account. The PC
    sits
    | there logged in as 'warehouse' most of the time, however in order that
    each
    | individual has their own email address each also has their own account on
    | the system. A couple of times a day they logoff the 'warehouse' user, log
    on
    | using their own account, check mail, work on individual tasks, etc... As
    all
    | access is from the same device, a device CAL is used. It is irrelevent
    that
    | there are thirty warehouse staff, all with individual accounts on the
    | system.
    |
    |
    | | > Hi there,
    | >
    | > before I purchase sbs 2003 premium Im thinking which licensing mode
    I'll
    | > be going with. I will have more users than devices with alot of them
    | > being resource users for exchange (booking resources etc... ) and so Im
    | > thinking of going per device so I can maximise users. Trouble is Im
    not
    | > too sure about if my users try and access OWA from a remote computer
    that
    | > hasn't got a device CAL... would 'anonymous' devices need a CAL to
    access
    | > OWA?
    | >
    | > thanks
    | > Mike
    | >
    |
    |
    |
     
    Charles Yang [MSFT], Nov 15, 2005
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