per user verses per device CAL's for exchange

Hi there,

before I purchase sbs 2003 premium Im thinking which licensing mode I'll be
going with. I will have more users than devices with alot of them being
resource users for exchange (booking resources etc... ) and so Im thinking
of going per device so I can maximise users. Trouble is Im not too sure
about if my users try and access OWA from a remote computer that hasn't got
a device CAL... would 'anonymous' devices need a CAL to access OWA?

thanks
Mike

 

it is not possible to access OWA anonymously. Any entity wishing to access
OWA must be covered by a CAL.

But I think you need some help sorting out just what is needed. Expand a
little on these 'resource' items.

eg A meeting room can be set up as a resource in Exchange. Exchange users
can see existing booking times for the room and request time in it. The room
does not require a CAL.

The user vs device CAL question is only indirectly related to accounts on
the system, you may have thousands of accounts (this scenario seems a bit
ridiculous though). Think about how people are going to access the system.

In general, I find user CALs are required by senior staff. They wish to
access the system from more than one device. They access OWA from their
mate's PC, they have PDA's, maybe both an office machine and a laptop.
'staff' generally use the PC at work and forget about work the moment they
leave the office (if not some time before leaving , often a device CAL is
sufficient but you then hit a wall if they want to access OWA from home
(maybe during holidays, when they're using their work account to stay in
touch with friends), the individual needs will dictate whether a user CAL is
required.

The perfect scenario for a device CAL is warehousing. You have several guys
in the warehouse but only a single PC. Each user only accesses from the one
PC _however_ they may need both a group and individual account. The PC sits
there logged in as 'warehouse' most of the time, however in order that each
individual has their own email address each also has their own account on
the system. A couple of times a day they logoff the 'warehouse' user, log on
using their own account, check mail, work on individual tasks, etc... As all
access is from the same device, a device CAL is used. It is irrelevent that
there are thirty warehouse staff, all with individual accounts on the
system.

 

HI Mike,

Welcome to SBS newsgroup.

Issue description:
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I understand that you want to know more about how you can deploy the CAL
for user to access Exchange 2003.

Analyzing and suggestion:
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1. For licensing questions, you may want to call 1-800-426-9400 (select
option 4), Monday through Friday, 6:00 A.M. to 5:30 P.M. (PST) to speak
directly to a Microsoft licensing specialist.

Worldwide customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft Licensing
Sites http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.asp to find
contact information in their locations.

Here I'd like to provide you with the following information:

Two types of SBS 2003 CALs are available to choose from??device-based or
user-based, known as device CALs or user CALs. This choice means you can
either purchase a CAL for every device (used by any user) that accesses
your server, or purchase a CAL for every named user that accesses your
servers (from any device).

For the first five CALs, at the top of the CAL End User License Agreement
(EULA) in the retail packaging, you can choose to allocate these CALs (up
to a maximum of five) to either user or device. Device and user CALs can
both be used on the same server. But for easier managing and tracking, we
strongly recommend that you buy either user CALs or device CALs, not both.

When we access the SBS via local client from VPN or on the RWW, we all need
license References, just as you mean if you access the OWA from a remote
computer, if you bought a user license, you can access it via that user,
but if you bought the device license, you might be limit to access the OWA
on that certain devices. For more concerns about license issue, we strongly
recommend contact license office.

Frequently Asked Questions About Windows Small Business Server 2003
Licensing
http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsServer2003/sbs/techinfo/overview/licensingfa
q.mspx


Client Access Licensing for Windows Small Business Server 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/howtobuy/CALs.mspx


Pricing and Licensing for Windows Small Business Server 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/howtobuy/pricing.mspx


Thanks for your understanding. If you have any further concerns on license
issue, please feel free to post back. I am glad to be of further
assistance.



Best regards,

Charles Yang (MSFT)

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| it is not possible to access OWA anonymously. Any entity wishing to
access
| OWA must be covered by a CAL.
|
| But I think you need some help sorting out just what is needed. Expand a
| little on these 'resource' items.
|
| eg A meeting room can be set up as a resource in Exchange. Exchange users
| can see existing booking times for the room and request time in it. The
room
| does not require a CAL.
|
| The user vs device CAL question is only indirectly related to accounts on
| the system, you may have thousands of accounts (this scenario seems a bit
| ridiculous though). Think about how people are going to access the system.
|
| In general, I find user CALs are required by senior staff. They wish to
| access the system from more than one device. They access OWA from their
| mate's PC, they have PDA's, maybe both an office machine and a laptop.
| 'staff' generally use the PC at work and forget about work the moment
they
| leave the office (if not some time before leaving , often a device CAL
is
| sufficient but you then hit a wall if they want to access OWA from home
| (maybe during holidays, when they're using their work account to stay in
| touch with friends), the individual needs will dictate whether a user CAL
is
| required.
|
| The perfect scenario for a device CAL is warehousing. You have several
guys
| in the warehouse but only a single PC. Each user only accesses from the
one
| PC _however_ they may need both a group and individual account. The PC
sits
| there logged in as 'warehouse' most of the time, however in order that
each
| individual has their own email address each also has their own account on
| the system. A couple of times a day they logoff the 'warehouse' user, log
on
| using their own account, check mail, work on individual tasks, etc... As
all
| access is from the same device, a device CAL is used. It is irrelevent
that
| there are thirty warehouse staff, all with individual accounts on the
| system.
|
|
| | > Hi there,
| >
| > before I purchase sbs 2003 premium Im thinking which licensing mode
I'll
| > be going with. I will have more users than devices with alot of them
| > being resource users for exchange (booking resources etc... ) and so Im
| > thinking of going per device so I can maximise users. Trouble is Im
not
| > too sure about if my users try and access OWA from a remote computer
that
| > hasn't got a device CAL... would 'anonymous' devices need a CAL to
access
| > OWA?
| >
| > thanks
| > Mike
| >
|
|
|