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Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Johnny Fosse, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. Johnny Fosse

    Johnny Fosse Guest

    Is there anything I can take for my pain doc? It hurts in a lotta
    places.
     
    Johnny Fosse, Jan 29, 2009
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  2. Johnny Fosse

    t-4-2 Guest

    In most cases, you can access to files/programs by Right click on the item,
    click Run As Administrator.
    t-4-2
     
    t-4-2, Jan 29, 2009
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  3. Johnny Fosse

    Kathy Guest

    Is there anyway to be able to access everything on my computer? I am
    running as admin., but I can't access a lot of things.

    Thanks
    Kathy
     
    Kathy, Jan 29, 2009
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  4. I'm sorry, but could you possibly be a bit more specific? What,
    specifically, can you not access?

    No one can help if you don't provide at least a modicum of pertinent
    information.

    Help us help you:

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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    killed a great many philosophers.
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    Bruce Chambers, Jan 29, 2009
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  5. In Vista, "Documents and Settings" really isn't a folder. It's what's
    called a "junction point" that's used only to redirect legacy (those
    designed before Vista) applications to the equivalent Vista locations.
    Think of it as a "virtual" folder; it's not real. It cannot be accessed.

    Again, you'll have to be specific.

    Certainly, but without knowing the specifics, it's not possible to
    provide an answer.

    Again, you can.


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    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

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    killed a great many philosophers.
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    Bruce Chambers, Jan 29, 2009
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  6. Johnny Fosse

    Kathy Guest

    Sorry. It is things like doc.and settings, under users there are some.
    What I would like to know id there anyway to be able to access everything?
    I find it very irritating that on my own computer I can't access things, or
    if I am able to change permissions etc. it takes forever. I wqould like to
    just access everything like I could in XP.

    Kathy
     
    Kathy, Jan 29, 2009
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  7. Johnny Fosse

    Gordon Guest


    There are at least two if not more, junction points in each Users
    account....I bet that's what the OP is talking about.
     
    Gordon, Jan 29, 2009
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  8. Johnny Fosse

    SuperXero Guest

    Kathy I have written an article in the past on how to unlock the vist
    administrator account. Even if your account is an administrator accoun
    it does not have full privlages. Here is the article on how to enable t
    hidden administrator account.

    'hackingmanual.net/unlock-secret-administrator-account-in-vista/
    (http://hackingmanual.net/unlock-secret-administrator-account-in-vista/

    SuperXer
     
    SuperXero, Jan 29, 2009
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  9. Please be very specific about what it is that you can't access, but
    want to. Also please explain *why* you want to access these things and
    what you plan on doing with them.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Jan 29, 2009
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  10. Like what?
     
    Jack the Ripper, Jan 30, 2009
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  11. Johnny Fosse

    Frank Holman Guest

    She keeps saying "things" and "everything".

    I think she's a blonde ;-)
     
    Frank Holman, Jan 30, 2009
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  12. You're probably correct, but we won't know if she doesn't respond.


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    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

    The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
    killed a great many philosophers.
    ~ Denis Diderot
     
    Bruce Chambers, Jan 30, 2009
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  13. [...]
    So, you ran all the time in XP as administrator probably. Don't feel
    bad, you weren't the only one by far. In fact it is because of the ease
    of doing this in XP that they created Vista's default 'Protected Admin'
    account (and hid the real one).

    Yes, it is possible to run Vista with as poor an eye toward security
    as was done with XP.

    You can disable User Account Control
    You can disable Mandatory Integrity Control
    You can activate, unhide, and use the real Administrator account
    (which is supposed to be immune to UAC I believe)

    ....none of the above are recommended.

    What *is* recommended is to work within the constraints of Vista's
    security scheme.
     
    FromTheRafters, Jan 30, 2009
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  14. Johnny Fosse

    JerryM Guest

    Another look at the system including other drives is to right click CMD.EXE
    and select run as administrator.
    This will take you to the ROOT directory where you can see all the files and
    directories on the drives.

    Jerry
     
    JerryM, Jan 30, 2009
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  15. Johnny Fosse

    JerryM Guest

    Be sure to type CD\ and hit enter to put you in C: drive
     
    JerryM, Jan 30, 2009
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  16. Johnny Fosse

    Guest Guest

    Well, I'm definitely NOT a blonde...and I have the same issues.
    I want access to EVERYTHING. What's so hard to understand about that?
    EVERYTHING!!! If there's something I can't access, that's what I want
    access to.

    I don't want anybody telling me I can't do something...ever.
    You're allowed to enable as much security as you find helpful.
    I should be allowed to enable as little security as I find helpful...
    that being NONE!!!

    You want an example? I want to delete a gigabyte of restore points
    before I image the partition.
    I've had so much hassle with this, that I can't remember exactly, but
    as I recall, I was unable to copy a license file into
    a subdirectory of "program files".
    I couldn't delete a bunch of stuff in "documents and settings".

    Depending on how a directory got created, I may or may not be able
    to access it directly of have it indirectly accessed by a program.
    Changing the permissions on a file doesn't seem to help, but changing
    the permissions on the parent directory and it's contents seems to
    work...maybe...I'm very confused.

    I don't want to hear about why I shouldn't do it. You have your reasons
    to do whatever you want. I have MY reasons to do whatever I want...and
    I WANT ACCESS TO MY COMPUTER!!!!! I don't want to justify it to you
    or anyone else. I want to know HOW to do it.

    Over the last few months, I have been able to open up permissions and get
    access to most stuff, but I couldn't tell you how I did it...just played
    with settings until it worked.

    While I'm on a RANT!!! I also want the converse. I DON'T WANT
    WINDOWS DOING STUFF THAT I DIDN'T ASK FOR.
    I don't want anything automatically updating.
    I especially don't want anything updating after I unchecked the
    "update automatically" check box. There's some interesting stuff posted
    about how loosely M$ interprets your grant of permission to invade your
    computer.
    I don't want any program accessing
    the web for any reason except Firefox and Thunderbird.
    I don't want anything to happen when I insert a CD. I don't want my
    music indexed, I don't want my files indexed, I don't want ANYTHING
    to happen automatically. Gimme a check box or three to enable stuff if
    I want it.
    There is no reason for media player to run at all. WMPlayer accessing
    the web for any reason is unacceptable.

    Before you tell me I can disable autoplay, let me say that it doesn't
    work for me. When I plug in a flash drive, wmplayer.exe starts running.
    It prevents safely removing some, but not every flash drive. And it
    ties up my CD drive so I can't burn a CD without starting task manager
    and killing wmplayer.exe. There's no excuse for that. I don't want
    wmplayer.exe to run EVER. If you delete the file, and the prefetched
    copy and the restore points...wmplayer.exe still comes back. GRRRRR!!!.


    I gotta go take a blood pressure pill...maybe two!!!
    Hang in there, Kathy...you're not alone. Don't take their
    dismissive tone personally. They get that way from dealing with the likes
    of me.
     
    Guest, Jan 30, 2009
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  17. Johnny Fosse

    Gordon Guest


    <sigh. that's because "Documents and Settings" is a JUNCTION POINT, a
    SYMBOLIC LINK. It doesn't contain anything. It points to the Vista
    equivalent so that legacy XP apps will work.
    I suggest you get to know how Vista works, rather than ranting on about how
    it's not like XP....
     
    Gordon, Jan 30, 2009
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  18. Johnny Fosse

    Guest Guest

    Sigh all you want. I can tell you that with stock Vista, I couldn't do
    much in documents and settings.
    After messing around with it for a long time, I now have full access to
    the whole tree. Doesn't seem to matter which are links and which are real
    files/directories...that part just works like I expect it to.

    I'm sure there are many valid reasons for locking down a system
    so Joe the data-entry guy can't mess up the system. Just gimme
    a way to work around all that for MY system.
    I can live with a (very) limited amount of "are you sure you wanna do that?"
    I won't tolerate "NO!".
     
    Guest, Jan 30, 2009
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  19. Johnny Fosse

    Dave Guest

    You're the type of person that MS is trying to protect the rest of us
    from....
     
    Dave, Jan 30, 2009
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  20. Johnny Fosse

    Dave Warren Guest

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    That's because "Documents and Settings" doesn't exist anymore, it's just
    a junction pointing to the new paths.
    There is never a no, but rather, it's a case of "if you don't know how
    to get around it, you probably shouldn't be touching it"
     
    Dave Warren, Jan 30, 2009
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