Physical Memory/RAM

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Mary Lou, Jun 30, 2008.

  1. Mary Lou

    Mary Lou Guest

    I have an HP Desktop Pavilion m8150n, Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, Windows Vista
    Ultimate (32), 4GB RAM, 640GB hard drive, NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS. I have
    upgrade Vista with sp1.

    I have been having some problems with my pc hesitating when I'm clicking on
    things in a game. I have just recently upgraded my memory from 3 to 4GB,
    thinking this would solve my problem. It hasn't. When I go into the Task
    Manager, it shows Physical Memory (MB) Total 3581, Cached 2730 and only 56
    Free. Is this my problem? I have a long list of processes and services
    running and I'm sure I don't need all of this running at the same time. This
    could also be causing my problem, but not sure. I have shut down some of
    these processes, but I'm not sure which ones I actually need to run the

    This problem is extremely frustrating. I have 211GB free on my hard drive
    and the box is checked for Index drive for faster searching. I would be happy
    to provide any other information.

    Anyone out there have any suggestions/advice for improving the performance
    of this pc. I have defrag running on a weekly schedule and I run RegistryFix
    and Disk Clean every day. Thank you.
    Mary Lou, Jun 30, 2008
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  2. Mary Lou

    dullpain Guest

    I have been having some problems with my pc hesitating when I'm clicking on
    Your video card, a lowly 8400GS, may just not have the power you desire to
    run the game at the settings you want.
    Try dialing back the video settings and see if that helps.
    Otherwise the prices of 8800s have come way down and the new ATI cards are
    finally competitive.
    dullpain, Jun 30, 2008
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  3. Mary Lou

    skunksmash Guest

    well for a start your 32bit OS cannot use 4gb ..... it will only
    register 3-3.5ghz depending on your VRAM & other bios functions needed
    to operate.. 64bit will use the full amount

    you have a good cpu.... & enough on board ram to game & please vistas
    but your graphics card is very poor...
    without knowing what board & ram speed you have its hard to say whats
    the slowest

    download cpuz & give us a screen shot.... of the main tab, motherboard
    tab & memory we can see what your working with & recommend an


    E2180 @ 3.2ghz
    arctic cooler pro 775
    4GB gskill HZ @ 1050mhz
    Asus P5K premium
    160GB seagate 7200
    coloursit 600w psu
    PNY 8800GT 512mb
    skunksmash, Jun 30, 2008
  4. On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:14:00 -0700, Mary Lou <Mary

    Not a surprise.

    That's normal. All 32-bit versions of Windows (not just XP) have a 4GB
    address space. That's the theoretical upper limit beyond which you can
    not go.

    But you can't use the entire 4GB of address space. Even though you
    have a 4GB address space, you can only use *around* 3.1GB of RAM.
    That's because some of that space is used by hardware and is not
    available to the operating system and applications. The amount you can
    use varies, depending on what hardware you have installed, but can
    range from as little as 2GB to as much as 3.5GB. It's usually around

    Note that the hardware is using the address *space*, not the actual
    RAM itself. The rest of the RAM goes unused because there is no
    address space to map it too.

    Also normal. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is
    a counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or most,
    of your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is
    wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it

    Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
    time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
    part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
    this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.

    How many? Most of us do too. That's normal.

    Although it's possible that you could do without some of these, in my
    experience that's very seldom responsible for performance problems. It
    isn't where I would start looking for problems.

    Is your problem only with games? Some games? All games? Which ones? I
    personally don't play computer games, so I can't be too specific, but
    be aware that game performance is often constrained by your video
    card's performance. It may be possible that that's your bottleneck.

    Almost certainly that's way overkill, but it's not causing your

    Ugh! Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
    registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
    don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
    what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
    having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

    The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    it may have.

    I recommend that you discontinue use of this product immediately. If
    it hasn't yet caused you a problem, consider yourself lucky.

    Also overkill.
    Ken Blake, MVP, Jun 30, 2008
  5. Mary Lou

    Mary Lou Guest

    Can you please tell me where to find this info? Thanks.
    Mary Lou, Jul 1, 2008
  6. Mary Lou

    Mary Lou Guest

    Thank you all for your input. I really appreciate it.

    I will discontinue immediately the use of RegistryFix. Didn't know it could
    cause problems.

    Is the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS the best out there at a reasonable price?

    I play a lot of games on Comcast Chill. These are little games, like
    mahjong, word games, puzzle games, etc. Shouldn't be having problems with
    these kinds of games.

    I play GuildWars online and I always have some kind of lag.

    Again, I appreciate your suggestions/advice. Thanks.
    Mary Lou, Jul 1, 2008
  7. Mary Lou

    DL Guest

    The type of problem you mention can be very hard to diagnose.
    Your vid card is fine for card type games, I know nothing about GuildWars,
    but I would imagine an online game 'maybe' affected by your internet
    connection, perhaps their on line help or community, if they have one, might
    offer suggestions.
    What AntiVirus application do you run?
    DL, Jul 1, 2008
  8. Mary Lou

    tr3 Guest

    Just download the vista service pack 1
    tr3, Jul 1, 2008
  9. Mary Lou

    skunksmash Guest

    skunksmash, Jul 1, 2008
  10. Mary Lou

    tr3 Guest

    tr3, Jul 1, 2008
  11. Mary Lou

    tr3 Guest

    dont forget me if u were success hehehehe....
    tr3, Jul 1, 2008
  12. Mary Lou

    skunksmash Guest

    sorry mate i don't understand what your asking ...?? do you also have
    memory mapping proble

    or gaming problem...:


    E2180 @ 3.2ghz
    arctic cooler pro 775
    4GB gskill HZ @ 1050mhz
    Asus P5K premium
    160GB seagate 7200
    coloursit 600w psu
    PNY 8800GT 512mb
    skunksmash, Jul 1, 2008
  13. Mary Lou

    Mary Lou Guest

    Thank you all for your responses.

    I already have SP1 installed.

    Looks like I will be looking for a great buy on a video card as soon as I
    can save up some $$. For some reason, I never thought it was the video card
    as I was under the impression that this was a pretty decent video card even
    though I knew it wasn't top of the line, like an 8800.

    Thanks again, appreciate it.
    Mary Lou, Jul 1, 2008
  14. Mary Lou

    Mary Lou Guest

    Antivirus - Kaspersky Internet Security Vers. 7.0.
    Mary Lou, Jul 1, 2008
  15. Mary Lou

    tr3 Guest

    it would be helping with u case,before im aslo got the same problem as u
    are but after that it realy helping me up with the mapping memory
    otherwise run the memory diagnostic
    tr3, Jul 1, 2008
  16. Mary Lou

    tr3 Guest

    so far i dont have any problem with that :D
    tr3, Jul 1, 2008
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