physical Router address

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Networking' started by Dan, Jan 10, 2008.

  1. Dan

    Chuck [MVP] Guest

    Carefully, and during daylight. Would YOU want some stranger coming to YOUR
    door, asking about your computer network?

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    Cheers,
    Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    My email is AT DOT
    actual address pchuck mvps org.
     
    Chuck [MVP], Jan 12, 2008
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  2. Dan

    Chuck [MVP] Guest

    ISPs will protect the privacy of their customers, to the legal limit. Look at
    the RIAA and their "I want the name of the owner of this IP address" shit.

    No reliable ISP is going to look up a customer name, and provide it to any
    stranger who writes them "I need to contact the owner of this IP address".

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    Cheers,
    Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    My email is AT DOT
    actual address pchuck mvps org.
     
    Chuck [MVP], Jan 12, 2008
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    AlexB Guest

    No, he just should approach a desk clerk at that Hilton Hotel, a Hispanic
    woman, with a vocabulary of 20 English words and ask her point blank:

    "What is your frea*king IP address?"

     
    AlexB, Jan 12, 2008
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  4. Dan

    Dan Guest

    oh i wanted to Pre-empt a possible unexpected disconect
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    Dan’s World Inc.™I wanted to Pre-empt a possible unexpected disconnect (if
    he changes his router name I will be dropped from service?

    I got some bad information that leads me to this I think. Somebody told me
    if the owner of the router changes the name of the device I will get bumped
    off. I have the name “linksys†as the SSID.

    From what you described I no longer have to worry. Thanks.

    By establishing a shared cost now or mutual agreement I am seeking to avoid
    the hassle of going back to my 56k or setting up the same service I am
    getting now for free. That’s all really.

    I guess you would have to see the area in around my home. We are about 30
    homes on flat land with one hotel on the right. I know everybody around me
    somewhat. What stops me from just asking around? This is a delicate to some.
    Imagine an Unknowledgeable suddenly hears that “somebody is using my
    serviceâ€. I think you have to approach this with certainly in a matter and
    manner of trust.

    I just want to share the Freaking cost of the Freaking Wifi! Holy Toledo
    Bateman!

    Another Bozo On the bus
     
    Dan, Jan 14, 2008
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    AlexB Guest

    Again I am having trouble sending the post. What a weird thing. Why is it
    so selective?
    I just could not post this during the day from my office with a static IP
    address. I am wondering if Chuck may be a part of it with all his denial of
    paranoia as a problem. Now I will try it from home where I do have another
    static IP.

    Dan, I am beginning to understand your concerns.

    The SSID cannot be changed by the owner. What he can do is to change or
    reset the password and the user name. I think your laptop (give thanks to
    Vista for that) signs you in with a default password and user name. The
    other fellow gave you those. However, I should warn you against ever
    trying to sign in. All that "moral" garbage Chuck advertised is nothing as
    compared with it. Although you will have no legal ramifications for doing it
    but, I hate to say that, "morally" it is a considerable elevation. It is
    like breaking and entering. I always try to put myself in the shoes of the
    other guy if I would do something like this. It is kind of gross.

    I would consider it a godsend, like winning a lottery, a small bonus for
    your exceptional honesty or whatnot. Just enjoy it.

    Linksys router is a piece of junk. I is employed by people with no
    sophistication. Setting up passwords across a network is a hassle requiring
    some dedication. After every power outage the passwords are reset back to
    default. Passwords are easily forgotten. A person who owns that linksys may
    set himself for small trouble if he tries to safeguard himself against
    other people leaching into his hot spot. It creates considerable
    inconvenience. Instead of enjoying his music he will be running around
    resetting
    passwords and that is not easy for a non-professional.


     
    AlexB, Jan 15, 2008
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    Chuck [MVP] Guest

    Dan,

    This isn't really a forum devoted to WiFi, this is a Vista forum. To explore
    the issues of "borrowing" / "hijacking" / "leeching" a WiFi connection, you
    really should ask about this in a forum that is devoted to WiFi. One
    possibility would be microsoft. public. windows. networking. wireless.
    <http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless?hl=en>
    http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless?hl=en

    Another would be DSLR Forums - WiFi Networking.
    <http://www.dslreports.com/forum/wlan>
    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/wlan

    The issues aren't simple, as Alex would have you to believe. Legally, if you do
    anything more than using NetStumbler to identify a neighbours WiFi LAN, you are
    breaking the law in some states. Yet, I dare you to call your local PD (911 - -
    right) and tell them "Help! Somebody is stealing my WiFi!".

    Get into the right forum, Dan. Get informed.

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    Cheers,
    Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    My email is AT DOT
    actual address pchuck mvps org.
     
    Chuck [MVP], Jan 15, 2008
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    Dan Guest

    10 4 big daddy
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    Dan’s World Inc.™
    Another Bozo On the bus


     
    Dan, Jan 16, 2008
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    AlexB Guest

    For some reason, Dan my posts (I've tried a number of times) stopped getting
    thru. I think Chuck with his MVP powers turned his unidirectional antenna
    away from me as far as this thread is concerned. So, if this will be an
    exception I want to point it out to you that you should think in terms of
    multiple scales. He is trying to scary you with an improbable event of
    prosecuting someone for listening to his neighbors music while criminal
    gangs roam the internet unhindered, break into people's computers daily and
    happily get away with it.

    Thank about it for a moment and you will realize how pathetic his ridiculous
    quotations and references are.

    A few years ago I decided that I needed GMRS radio. I bought what is
    essentially a walkie-talkie. it required a license. I bought it for $80. I
    think it is good for 5 years. I used it a few times before I realized that
    it had no practical value for me. Nonetheless, afraid of consequences I
    joined a forum, asked questions, read their ridiculous answers full of self
    righteousness and self-importance. Then in the process I realized that the
    spectrum is practically empty. Nobody uses it except for some construction
    workers and only very rarely. Nobody gives a sh*t. Nonetheless I was warned
    of dire consequences if I violated precepts or broke rules.

     
    AlexB, Jan 17, 2008
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