PLEASE stop nagging us to reboot!!!!

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by Jon Davis, Apr 5, 2006.


  1. net stop wuauserv


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    Robert Aldwinckle, Apr 5, 2006
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  2. Jon Davis

    Jon Davis Guest

    Good call, thanks.

    Jon
     
    Jon Davis, Apr 6, 2006
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  3. This article..
    http://windowssecrets.com/comp/060302/#story1

    Explains the setting above.

    I still say that the OP would be better off just making a more informed and
    timely decision about when to install their updates.
     
    Shenan Stanley, Apr 6, 2006
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  4. Jon Davis

    Kirrin Jones Guest

    Jon, I am with you.

    The issue is not whether or not you wish to update automatically or
    download and then you choose to install. The issue is the constant
    reminder popping up to inform you that you need to reboot.

    For a server that you can't just reboot in the middle of the day or if
    you have a scheduled reboot time, but you want to be able to install the
    updates so that when it is time to reboot you can just go ahead and
    reboot knowing that the updates are already installed.

    Microsoft should simply place a different color update icon in the
    system tray when an update requires a reboot, give you one yellow (or
    red) pop up window down by the system tray that you need to reboot and
    just let that icon stay there until you do. Isn't that the same
    principle that they apply when there are updates to be installed, why
    deviate after they have been installed.

    Also Microsoft had promised fewer reboots with Windows 2003 but it would
    appear to me that almost every update requires a reboot. Where did that
    "promise" go.

    I say STOP THE DAMN POP UP! DOWN WITH THE POP UP!
     
    Kirrin Jones, Apr 6, 2006
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  5. You chose to start the car and press on the gas, now you don't want to
    listen to the road warning signs?

    You chose to install. You knew that you might be requested to reboot. You
    did it anyway.
    Don't want to be nagged? Choose to install later. Install when you log
    off/shutdown - that is an option.

    Otherwise - tweak if you want to - although you are still making the same
    choice - it's just that you decided to start the car and drive down the
    desolate desert road (with less signs) than the other roads. They will
    still be there.

    http://windowssecrets.com/comp/060302/#story1

    It would just be wiser to not start the car until you were ready to go
    somewhere.
     
    Shenan Stanley, Apr 6, 2006
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  6. Jon Davis

    Les Rivett Guest

    If it would just tell us once and then leave it up to us without the
    constant reminders which are better described as nagging.
    That is an excellent point. If we have a scheduled reboot time or if
    we want to perform a number of different tasks and then reboot.
    Yes a different colour would be an adequate reminder without all the
    constant nagging.
    I was once promised my two front teeth for Christmas which didn't
    eventuate so I'm unlikely to place much faith in a Microsoft promise.
    I heard what you said, there is no need to shout. :)
     
    Les Rivett, Apr 6, 2006
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  7. Although I don't agree with your practices, I do agree with you that if the
    user has already responded that he or she will reboot the OS later then there
    is no reason to keep popping up a reminder.

    Yes, the OS needs to reboot for some reason or another. Yes, your updates
    are not fully applied until you have rebooted. Yes, you should reboot your OS
    when it says it needs to be rebooted.

    But that isn't the issue here. When a user makes the choice not to reboot
    then don't bother the user by asking again. If you want the OS to be
    rebooted, then don't give the user a choice and reboot the OS automatically.
    Have a big warning appear before the install begins that says "Your system
    will be rebooted immediately following the installation of this update. Close
    any open applications now, or select 'Cancel' to stop the installation
    process."

    Or have the Windows Update icon appear in the systray as a grinning skull
    with the number of hours that the user has gone without the required reboot
    if you don't want to force the reboot upon them.

    Don't sit on the fence with an annoying reminder. Either force the reboot
    and give the user a chance to stop the install first, or give the user a
    choice and let them live with the consequences if they don't reboot
    immediately.
     
    MisterSinister, Apr 11, 2006
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    Jeff Guest

    I just happened upon this post and found it rather silly at first. I thought
    Mr Davis was just looking for some excuse to complain about Microsoft After
    reading all the post, I thought Jon should get a life, until MisterSinister's
    post.
    Great job MisterSinister.
     
    Jeff, Apr 17, 2006
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    Rob Kraft Guest

    Torgeir, thanks for providing the info that Jon (and thousands of other
    people) are looking for - how to turn the nag screen off. We have many
    machines that cannot auto-update because we want to review the updates first;
    however, we review the udpates during working hours and then, if we apply
    them, we cannot reboot because the machine is connected to by other users.
    We have the machine scheduled for a reboot at night - but don't need the nags
    all throughout the day.
     
    Rob Kraft, May 12, 2006
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    Zief Guest

    I can't believe you are all chastising this guy for his perfectly valid
    comment. What he is trying to get across is 'Later' MEANS 'Later' and not I
    will ask you again in 10 minutes!!!! This feature of Windows Update, combined
    with the other one that actually operates a timer - so if you've just nipped
    off to make a drink or something you may not even have any choice in the
    matter, are major pains in the ass!
    If you have to restart, for whatever reason, immediately after installing an
    update, it should make this MASSIVELY clear before you initiate it and then
    not even give the later option as there is no point if its going to continue
    pestering. Its pathetic and I really don't know what planet you are on if you
    actually think its alright and logical for the system to continue asking if
    you want to restart after your first answer was 'Later' meaning you
    acknowlege it needs a restart, but you will do it in your own time.
    After all the system only needs to be restarted because files that are in
    use need to be reloaded with the updates, and other than remaining vulnerable
    to what the updates fix, there is no other real reason for immediately
    restarting.

    This feature has f%^ked me over a few times now and I totally agree with you
    Jon, its just poor. I mean if they are that worried about people who don't
    know what they are doing and are unaware of the risks when they press
    'later', why don't they display another message stating the risks of not
    restarting immediately, then if the user still presses 'later' it f&%ks off
    and never asks again. Simple as that!
     
    Zief, May 31, 2006
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    rally jinx Guest

    Thank you!!!!!!!!! My computer has been nagging me all night to restart and
    doesn't seem to understand that "later" means when i'm done with what I'm
    doing. Now hopefully it will stop. It doesn't matter how you choose to get
    your updates - if you find yourself in the position of not being able to
    leave your computer because it might restart itself while you're gone is
    really annoying. If it says "restart later" that should mean "later when I
    choose" not "5 minutes whether you like it or not." Anyway, it hasn't told me
    it's going to restart yet so thanks.
     
    rally jinx, Jul 14, 2006
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  12. Jon Davis

    Lucas Guest

    Hear, Hear!

    The only reason I ever had automatic updates set to install automatically
    (instead of just download) was because the folk at MS recommend you don't use
    an admin account for day to day use, so I don't, but if there are updates to
    install, non-admin accounts aren't given the same little balloon letting them
    know (even if they can't install them themselves), hence there was no other
    way to know about updates when your pc is on continuously on a non-admin
    account.
    Good thinking MS.
    You know it makes me wonder if the people at microsoft even use windows, or
    if they just never turn their computers off and a couple of magical fairies
    make sure they keep up to date.
     
    Lucas, Aug 9, 2006
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  13. Jon Davis

    AdamC Guest

    It is possible to adjust this behaviour using the Group Policy editor
    (either on a user basis or system wide)

    If you are, as you say, an advanced user, this should be easy enough for you
    to configure.

    Hope that helps
     
    AdamC, Oct 13, 2006
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