Poor Security Measures Waste Time

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Ricue, Apr 4, 2009.

  1. Ricue

    Ricue Guest

    Hi, My story is complex please read it all before posting as my literary
    skills are lacking.
    I was just your average guy with XP looking to upgrade so I got
    the Vista Ultimate x32. I already knew that UAC while well meaning was
    not effective, so I turned that off after about 5 minutes and 30 dialog
    boxes. I also knew that Vista had the ability to download pretty much
    anything even with the security center's updates set to OFF, via BITS
    and wuaclt.exe. I saw evidence of this through Process Explorer. So I
    thought to myself, OK I deal with it and turned both services off from
    Process Explorer.
    Then they came back. I also turned off the services in the
    services.exe program, and they came back. They were not the only ones
    using my PC for others gains, Windows Media Player (A program I do not
    use) has several processes (wmpnscfg.exe and others not currently
    visible in my procexp) which can take up as much as half of my
    processor. I don't recall when exactly it happened but now when I try to
    kill the windows update service I receive an ACCESS DENIED dialog. The
    same thing is appearing everywhere: in the registry, while trying to
    open or delete files (I checked via process explorer, they were not in
    use), and pretty much anywhere you may need administrator access.
    I ran many different spyware and virus scanners, lately being
    WinPatrol and PC Tools Spyware Doctor. And Once a month I let Windows
    Updates have its way with my computer for security updates and whatnot.
    To my knowledge there is no virus or the like.
    My first route to fix this problem was to go online, and see what
    happened to other people. I found out about how Admin rights were not
    admin rights, also I found out how to turn on the real admin
    (active:yes). I thought that was it but even on the 'real' admin account
    I face the same troubles, I repeat none of my problems are solved.
    My first successful fight against this ACCESS DENIED was when someone
    wrote command-line that opened up the registry under System-level
    rights. Apparently if you do it in system it gets done. WOOT.
    *****Now how can I elevate my Admin with real admin rights to
    System-level rights or something similar?*****

    Note: in my attempts I have made several folders with new rights:
    usually Everyone, Admins and my Account name in a desperate attempt to
    gain access, maybe the conflicting rights is to blame but I know not all
    the places I have edited.
    Note: My previous account from my XP appears in some rights lists as a
    series of weird numbers, I originally thought the numbers were some
    hacker but others have found it when an account becomes non-existent
    such as mine.
     
    Ricue, Apr 4, 2009
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  2. Ricue

    Mark H Guest

    Turn on UAC, answer the prompts and you should now have access to those
    restricted areas.
    UAC works even when it is "turned off" in a limited fashion to protect
    restricted areas.
    This is only my guess as I've seen this happen to me.
     
    Mark H, Apr 6, 2009
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  3. You may be able to get a system level command prompt, but I don't know
    about getting a login account with a system token.
     
    FromTheRafters, Apr 6, 2009
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  4. FromTheRafters, Apr 6, 2009
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  5. I especially liked this gem:

    "... I already knew that UAC while well meaning was not effective, so I
    turned that off after about 5 minutes ..."

    His complex IT skills, came through, despite his claimed lack of
    literary skills. :eek:)
     
    FromTheRafters, Apr 7, 2009
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  6. Ricue

    Ricue Guest

    Thanks guys, problem solved.
     
    Ricue, Apr 7, 2009
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