Problem with 1 of 4 computers using MN-500 Router

Discussion in 'Server Networking' started by Keppy, Jun 3, 2004.

  1. Keppy

    Roland Hall Guest

    : > Windows IP Configuration
    : > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Carol
    : > Ethernet adapter Network Bridge (Network Bridge) 5:
    : > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Keppy
    : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport
    :
    : The bridge stuff is catching my attention, but i'm not very experienced
    with
    : the Window's bridging features. What do you think Rolland?....is it
    nothing
    : or something? I wouldn't think there is no any reason for this machine to
    : have anything bridge related running on it.

    I've seen bridging for drivers but not sure if that is the issue. I'm still
    not clear on what connects to what and what is not connecting. In the OP, I
    thought it was only one computer that couldn't connect to the network. Now
    I'm not so sure.

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    Roland Hall, Jun 8, 2004
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  2. Keppy

    Roland Hall Guest

    Ignore the previous post. It appears I'm unable to scroll down properly to
    read the full thread before posting. sheesh!
     
    Roland Hall, Jun 8, 2004
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  3. Keppy

    Keppy Guest

    No so fast... I can't F--King BELIEVE THIS!!! It's not working again
    The new IPCONFIG/ALL from the desktop is:

    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Carol_2>ipconfig/all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Carol
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Keppy
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 CT Network
    Connect
    ion
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-CE-0E-DF
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.21
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:43:54
    PM
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, June 09, 2004 8:43:54
    PM

    C:\Documents and Settings\Carol_2>
    My laptop and other computers are directly connected via wireless 802.11b
    I'm not sure what you mean by share names. I have a SSID name and each
    computer has it's computer name and the shared drives are just "computer
    name" "drive letter"

    The desktop is the one hard wired and the one the router was originally set
    up on. It worked fine for several months, then all of a sudden stopped
    working. I rebooted my computer and it was gone. Sometimes when I reboot, I
    can see the other computers in my network connections and something I can't.
    Now I can't see them. I see the Network name, but no computers. When I click
    on the network, I get a message that the network is not accessable, I may
    not have permissions. All the other computers can see the network name and
    the connected computer and the shared drives. They can even see the desktop
    and it's shared drives (via the network connections in WinXP)

    I pinged an other laptop on the lan with these results:
    C:\Documents and Settings\Carol_2>ping 192.168.2.16

    Pinging 192.168.2.16 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=128

    Ping statistics for 192.168.2.16:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 3ms
    I pinged by name:
    C:\Documents and Settings\Carol_2>ping toshiba5205

    Pinging toshiba5205 [192.168.2.16] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=128

    Ping statistics for 192.168.2.16:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 3ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Carol_2>

    C:\Documents and Settings\Carol_2>ping carol

    Pinging Carol [192.168.2.21] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 192.168.2.21: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.21: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.21: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.21: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

    Ping statistics for 192.168.2.21:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
    Reverse ping the laptop:

    C:\Documents and Settings\Carol_2>ping -a 192.168.2.16

    Pinging 192.168.2.16 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.16: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=128

    Ping statistics for 192.168.2.16:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 3ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Carol_2>

    Reverse ping the S--Ty desktop I'm on:
    C:\Documents and Settings\Carol_2>ping -a 192.168.2.21

    Pinging Carol.Keppy [192.168.2.21] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 192.168.2.21: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.21: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.21: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.21: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

    Ping statistics for 192.168.2.21:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
    C:\Documents and Settings\Carol_2>ping 192.168.2.255

    Pinging 192.168.2.255 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64

    Ping statistics for 192.168.2.255:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 1ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Carol_2>

    Interface: 192.168.2.21 --- 0x2
    Internet Address Physical Address Type
    192.168.2.1 00-50-f2-72-61-f0 dynamic
    192.168.2.16 00-02-2d-58-eb-22 dynamic
    Full rights for all computers. I have winxp set up with simple file sharing.
    The computer name
    Yes
    *****
    Now that all this stuff is posted on the board, is it safe to do so? It's
    scary.
    Thanks Roland
    Carol
     
    Keppy, Jun 10, 2004
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  4. Keppy

    Keppy Guest

    There IS only one computer that is a problem. The other three computer can
    communicate with all FOUR computers and each other. By communicate I mean,
    use the shared files and folders on each, connect via network connections
    without a hitch... this is to ALL FOUR, including the one that doesn't even
    see the others in network connections. Only the one desktop, the original,
    the one with the router connected via cable, (all the others are wireless
    802.11) the one that the router software was originally set up through is
    the only computer that will not connect to anything. If I go through Windows
    Explorer using this s--t computer, and click on Networks, and the + sign to
    see the computers connected on my network I can see my network name, and
    this s--t computer I'm on, no others but if I click on my computer via the
    network connections, I can't even get access to the computer I'm on. I get a
    not available, may not have permissions. Gees, I'm the administrator and the
    only user. The other three computer, Via the same steps, shows all FOUR
    computers under the network when I click the + and can gain access to all
    the shared drives of all FOUR computers, Including the one I'm having
    problems with. The other computers can use the shared files, folders and
    printers of the computer I'm having problems with. I've looked at all the
    setting on all four computers and they all see to be the same, except for
    their own computer names, and I log onto each using the computer name as my
    log on, so they're all different. All using the same network name, same
    setting in the network settings. I can't see anything different in any of
    them. GOD, this is driving me nuts. Last night I got an update message for
    one of my laptops that there was an update driver for the 802.11b/g when I
    installed it, it would no longer work. I nearly had a nervous break down! I
    used system restore and at first it didn't work, but after a few reboots, it
    started working. By that time I was a total basket case. I don't know enough
    about what I'm doing and I don't know where to look or what to look for.

    Carol
     
    Keppy, Jun 10, 2004
    #24
  5. Check the event logs on all 4 XP machines and look for Browser Service,
    Master Browser, or a lot of Browser Election errors or warnings.
     
    Phillip Windell, Jun 10, 2004
    #25
  6. Keppy

    Keppy Guest

    I know this is really bad, but where do I find the event logs. I don't think
    there will be any errors on the other machine because they've have no
    contact with this machine. This machine hasn't been able to even attempt to
    connect to one of the other and the others are connecting to this one just
    fine. But maybe the logs on this machine will tell us something about why it
    will not connect to the network.
    Thanks again Phil, as you can see, I don't know much about anything and I'm
    really frustrated.
    Carol
     
    Keppy, Jun 10, 2004
    #26
  7. Keppy

    Keppy Guest


    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    The laptop shares with the other two computers the way everything is
    supposed to work. The three computer are all able to share files and folder
    BUT not only amoung themselves, they can get to the shared files, folders
    AND printers on the machine I'm having the trouble with. It doesn't
    recognize any of the other machines, though it does see the network in
    network connections. It even sees the name of it's own computer, but none of
    the other. If I try to access any of the shared drives on it's own computer
    via the network connections, I get an error, No access, may not have
    permission.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Now that all this stuff is posted on the board, is it safe to do so? It's
     
    Keppy, Jun 10, 2004
    #27
  8. Before we chase this rabbit too far,...if it is a "network browsing issue"
    then that can be tested by going to the Run line (Start button --> Run) and
    typing the machine name of one of the other machines preceeded by two
    backslashes (\\somemachine). This would pop up a browser window listing the
    shares on the target machine. This would work even if Network Places doesn't
    show anything. If it fails, then try the same thing using the IP# that one
    of the machines has assigned to it rather than using the name.
    (\\192.168.1.5) .

    Networking isn't dependent on network browsing to function, it will continue
    to function, but the Network Places window depends solely on Network
    Browsing and will be blank if Network Browsing fails.

    The Event Log is found on my Win2000Pro machine in Control Panel after
    opening Administrative Tools. I think it is in the same place in XP but you
    may have to set the Control Panel's view to Clasic View (or whatever they
    call it now).

    Usually if something is screwed up, it often show up in one of the sections
    of the Event Log Viewer.

    Don't run multiple treads. Pick one thread and reply in it. It is too hard
    to keep track of otherwise. I probably do over a 100 messages a week, it's
    already hard to keep track of.
     
    Phillip Windell, Jun 10, 2004
    #28
  9. Keppy

    Keppy Guest

    When I do that, it pops up with all the shared drives on the computer I
    enter. AND I can access those shared drives and files. I'm even able to drag
    files to this computer.

    I don't see an event log, but I have a netsetup log. I don't see anything in
    that. Everything looks the same from back in November, when everything was
    working perfectly, to now.

    I'm wondering if, when that, so called expert, told me to change some of the
    settings on the things that automatically load, from auto to manual or
    disable, if when I returned everything back to "the way it was", if I missed
    something and I don't have something loading automatically that should or
    needs to load to connect to the network.
    Carol



     
    Keppy, Jun 10, 2004
    #29
  10. That's right. You have a network browsing issue,...which has nothing to do
    with the network functionig or not.
    in

    Set Control Panel to Classic View so you can see something. Open
    Administrative Tools in Control Panel, then open the Event Log. I'm wasting
    my time here if you aren't going to do that.
    Maybe,..don't know,...have no way to know.
     
    Phillip Windell, Jun 11, 2004
    #30
  11. Keppy

    Keppy Guest

    I can see the administration tools, I have my control panel open so that
    everything is visible, but it's not there, sorry.
    Carol
     
    Keppy, Jun 11, 2004
    #31
  12. Well, it should be there somewhere. All systems based on "NT Technology"
    have it,....unless they've stripped it out of that "home" version like they
    have so many other things. I stay as far away from any "home" version of
    anything as I can get, so I don't know what all they might have do to it. I
    really hope they eliminate it in the next version of the OS and only have
    one variation of the OS.
     
    Phillip Windell, Jun 11, 2004
    #32
  13. Keppy

    Keppy Guest

    This is an XPpro OS, but I do see an event viewer in my system tools in
    accessories. It lists a lot of junk that doesn't make much sense to me but I
    can see errors and something that concerns me, I see entries of "remote
    access successful via IR(something)" I have remote access disabled and I
    don't know what that means. It seems to correlate with the use of MSN and
    messenger (which I hate). I don't think it has anything to do with my
    networking problem, but it does concern me whether or not my computer has
    been "invaded".
    Carol

     
    Keppy, Jun 11, 2004
    #33
  14. Things may be moved around, but it is there somewhere.
    IR is "Infa-Red". (Like a TV Remote)
     
    Phillip Windell, Jun 11, 2004
    #34
  15. Keppy

    Roland Hall Guest

    :
    : : > This is an XPpro OS, but I do see an event viewer in my system tools in
    : > accessories.
    :
    : Things may be moved around, but it is there somewhere.
    :
    : > It lists a lot of junk that doesn't make much sense to me but I
    : > can see errors and something that concerns me, I see entries of "remote
    : > access successful via IR(something)" I have remote access disabled and I
    :
    : IR is "Infa-Red". (Like a TV Remote)

    Start---Run---eventvwr---ENTER

    In XP Pro, it's under Admin Tools and Computer Management or just call it
    directly from Run, as listed above since it's on the path.

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    Roland Hall, Jun 15, 2004
    #35
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