Problem with Defragger Interface

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Installation' started by Alberto, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. Alberto

    Alberto Guest

    Hi,

    The main window of the defragger of Vista Ultimate don't open;open but soon
    close.

    Where is the problem?

    Thanks
     
    Alberto, Jan 14, 2008
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  2. Alberto

    brink Guest

    Hi Alberto,

    See if running a "sfc /scannow" (no quotes) can find and fix the
    problem for you.

    http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66978-system-files-sfc-command.html


    In the mean time, you can use the free Auslogics Disk Defrag. It works
    alot better in my opinion.

    'Auslogics - Download Auslogics Disk Defrag'
    (http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag/download)

    Shawn


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    brink, Jan 14, 2008
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  3. Alberto

    Alberto Guest

    Hi,

    Tried, using your command in DOS console that answer:

    To execute the command you must be an administrator and be in a console
    session.

    But I am administrator in "User Account" my name Alberto is Administrator, i
    don't understand.

    Please let me know.

    Thank you
     
    Alberto, Jan 15, 2008
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  4. Alberto

    Alberto Guest

    I use Vista 32 Ultimate

     
    Alberto, Jan 15, 2008
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  5. Alberto

    Alberto Guest

    Done.

    The scan give me this response:

    cbs.log

    Tried to read the log "access denied" is the answer
    Tried to se if an option to read as administrator right clicking on the file
    but not exist this option.

    How procede?

    Thank you
     
    Alberto, Jan 15, 2008
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  6. Alberto

    Alberto Guest

    I can't read the file cbs.log the defragmenter utility interface of Vista
    don't open what happen?

    I use Ultimate Defrag program and Perfect Disk program to defrag; I want to
    disable the auto defrag of Vista.The above programs are in stand by and do
    not auto defrag only Vista autodefrag.

    Is possible stop the autodefrag entering a command line in the Dos prompt
    console?

    Thanks
     
    Alberto, Jan 16, 2008
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  7. Alberto

    xiowan Guest

    Hello "Alberto":
    Is it possible that your Perfect Disk software program automatically
    disables the Vista Defragmenter program by default when it is installed? It
    seems logical that if you use an add on disk defragmenting program that the
    Vista defragment program would conflict with it if it isn't disabled
    automatically? You could probably contact the software supplier and find out
    but it should tell you that in the installation instructions for the
    software. You could also find out the hard way by temporarily uninstalling
    the Perfect Disk program and then try opening Vista's Disk Defragmenter.

    xiowan.........in tucson
     
    xiowan, Jan 18, 2008
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  8. Alberto

    Alberto Guest

    Hi xiowan,

    I've tried do disable both engines of PerfectDisk in Services of Windows
    Vista but the
    defragmenter interface window don't appear.
    ultimate Defrag is not responsible because I've installed this program later
    after the problem happen.

    Thank you
     
    Alberto, Jan 18, 2008
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  9. Alberto

    xiowan Guest

    Hello Alberto:
    I don't think you understand what I mean. I doubt if you can do anything
    with Vista's defragmenting program when you have another defragmenting
    program installed. If there were two defragmenting programs on your pc they
    would probably conflict with each other so I don't think you can do ANYTHING
    with Vista's defragmenter and don't need to as long as you have a different
    defragmenting program installed. You just can't get to Vista's defragmenter
    with Perfect Disk installed. The only defragmenting you can do is with
    Perfect disk unless you decide to uninstall it for some reason. Disabling
    Perfect Disk wouldn't change the operating system default settings for your
    defragmenter........it is Perfect Disk not Vista.

    xiowan.........in tucson
     
    xiowan, Jan 19, 2008
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  10. Alberto

    Alberto Guest

    Hi,

    Now I want to do so:

    uninstall perfectDisk
    Uninstall Ultimate Defrag
    run vista defragmenter
    uncheck autodefrag
    install again both programs.

    What you think about?

    thank you
     
    Alberto, Jan 19, 2008
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  11. Alberto

    xiowan Guest

    Hello "Alberto":
    "uninstall perfectDisk".....you should be able to uninstall Perfect
    Disk using the Control Panel>Programs & Features>Change or uninstall a
    program.

    "Uninstall Ultimate Defrag".....the Defrag program is part of the Vista
    operating system and can not be uninstalled, but after you remove Perfect
    Disk you should be able to open the Vista Defragmenter by typing Disk
    Defragmenter in the search box after clicking the start button. When the
    Defragmenter window opens you have the option of checking or unchecking Run
    on a schedule. You also can instruct it to Defragment by clicking Defragment
    now. If you plan on re-installing Perfect Disk, I would uncheck Run on a
    schedule.

    "nstall again both programs"....you can re-install Perfect Disk without
    problem, but be sure you are using the Vista compatible version. I don't
    think you can run both Perfect Disk and Vista's Disk Defragmenter program.
    You have to choose between the two because both programs work deep within the
    operating system and change the operating system to work only with that
    particular program. As an example Perfect Disk can take over the boot
    process and also constantly keep the O.S. files defragmented and running
    smoothly. Well, Vista Degragmenter does this also and the pc can't have
    both programs in control of the boot process and the defragmenting of O.S.
    files without major problems.

    My conclusion is that while Perfect Disk is an excellent Defragmenting
    program, probably better than the Vista one, you may find that configuring
    and using all the Perfect Disk features requires a great deal of computer
    expertise and you would probably be better off using Vista's Defragmenter
    program. It will do an excellent job if you just let it run as designed. It
    constantly keeps your disks in good shape and the only problem I've heard of
    is that if it is set to automatically defragment your drive(s) and the pc is
    off or asleep it will start up the next time you turn on or wake up the pc.
    If you have a powerful cpu and fast hard drive(s) you may not notice it's
    even running. If you have barely adequate hardware your system may seem a
    little slower but should still function ok.

    Here is the support website for Perfect Disk if you want to learn more:

    http://www.raxco.com/support/

    xiowan........in tucson
     
    xiowan, Jan 19, 2008
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  12. Alberto

    Alberto Guest

    Hi,

    I don't need the autodefrag of Vista.
    When I want to defrag I do this operation manually about every week and a
    complete
    backup of my hard disk.
    I think this continue movement of the hd heads using autodefrag is not ok
    and the hd life is reduced.
    I want to turn off the autodefrag of Vista so you said that is only
    necessary to uninstall PerfectDisk to be able access the Vista defrag
    Interface.

    Ok,

    Thank you

    Regards
    Alberto
     
    Alberto, Jan 20, 2008
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  13. Alberto

    brink Guest

    Alberto,

    When you gain access to Vista's Disk Defragmenter, this will show you
    how to turn the automatic schedule off for it.

    http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/72832-disk-defragmenter.html

    Shawn


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    brink, Jan 20, 2008
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  14. Alberto

    Alberto Guest

    Hi,

    Unfortunately nothing seems to activate the defragmenter interface of Vista.

    Done: Uninstall PerfectDisk program
    Uninstall Ultimate Defrag program
    restart windows
    Tried to run the defragmenter utility of Vista run normal and run
    as administrator

    nothing work

    When I launch the defragmenter utility of Vista appear the UAC control and
    ask me to allow that application to run.I click "allow" then nothing happen
    the "wait" symbol of Vista don't appear.

    Where is the problem now!

    Thank you

    Regards
    not appear
     
    Alberto, Jan 20, 2008
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  15. Alberto

    brink Guest

    Alberto,

    I would recommend that you run a Repair Install to fix the problem.

    http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-repair-install-vista.html

    Shawn


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  16. Alberto

    Alberto Guest

    Hi,

    I don't know but someone tell me that the defrag utility tool in Windows
    Vista Ultimate Italian version is not installed! Work but the interface to
    change settings is not available
    It's necessary install the defragmenter utility (graphic interface) because
    MS has not allow to access the interface for people that is unable to use it
    and defrag the hd so this operation is autoexecute by operating system.

    You know how to enable the interface in Vista 32 Ultimate?
    or the prompt Dos command to disable the autodefrag operation done by the OS?

    Thank you
     
    Alberto, Jan 23, 2008
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  17. Alberto

    brink Guest

    Alberto,

    I do not know how by command, but you should be able to disable it
    through Task Scheduler.

    1. Open the Start Menu
    2. In the White Line (Start Search) area, type "taskschd.msc" (no
    quotes) and press Enter.
    3. Click Continue
    4. In the left pane, click on the little white triangles to expand the
    folders "Task Scheduler Library", "Microsoft", "Windows".
    5. In the left pane, click on the "Defrag" folder.
    6. In the middle pane top box, right click on "ScheduledDefrag" and
    click Disable.
    7. Close Task Scheduler.

    It should not run anymore unless you do it manually.

    Shawn


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    Alberto Guest

    mmmmmk...... I think you're right something is wrong in the file system or
    registry.

    The console appear but no tasks are included and no visible in the left
    panel as you say. Is not possible add in the right panel new activity.

    Do You think is better to do a windows repair?

    Please let me know

    Thank you
     
    Alberto, Jan 23, 2008
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  19. Alberto

    brink Guest

    Alberto,

    Are you doing this from within an Administrator account?

    If so, then something is definitely wrong.

    I would recommend to try doing a System Restore to a restore point
    dated before the problem started or a Repair install to see if it can
    fix the problem. If it cannot, then the only thing left is a clean
    install.

    http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-repair-install-vista.html

    Shawn


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    brink, Jan 23, 2008
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  20. Alberto

    Alberto Guest

    Hi,

    The problem is caused of an error during the launch of the application
    "taskscheduler"

    is this:



    Nome registro: Microsoft-Windows-TaskScheduler/Operational
    Origine: Microsoft-Windows-TaskScheduler
    Data: 24/01/2008 10.30.13
    ID evento: 709
    Categoria attività:Aggiornamento attività del modulo compatibilità non
    riuscito
    Livello: Errore
    Parole chiave:
    Utente: SYSTEM
    Computer: Exatron
    Descrizione:
    Modulo compatibilità attività: impossibile aggiornare l'attività
    "User_Feed_Synchronization-{F8ED0AC4-68C7-4080-BA49-9216E50C49E8}.job". Dati
    aggiuntivi: valore errore: 2147750677.
    XML evento:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-TaskScheduler"
    Guid="{de7b24ea-73c8-4a09-985d-5bdadcfa9017}" />
    <EventID>709</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>709</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-01-24T09:30:13.101Z" />
    <EventRecordID>248572</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="1048" ThreadID="1756" />
    <Channel>Microsoft-Windows-TaskScheduler/Operational</Channel>
    <Computer>Exatron</Computer>
    <Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
    </System>
    <EventData Name="CompatibilityAdapterTaskUpdateFailed">
    <Data
    Name="TaskName">User_Feed_Synchronization-{F8ED0AC4-68C7-4080-BA49-9216E50C49E8}.job</Data>
    <Data Name="ResultCode">2147750677</Data>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Is Italian but hope you understand.

    Thank you
     
    Alberto, Jan 24, 2008
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