Problem with KB951748 XP Update

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by Chipete, Jul 8, 2008.

  1. Chipete

    skyking9876 Guest

    Same problem here and I don't use Zone Alarm
     
    skyking9876, Jul 9, 2008
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  2. But, PA Bear, I didn't see "just use Windows" anywhere on that recommeded
    list! ;-)

    I imagine you could go to any number of pages that have rankings that
    conflict with one another. The best way, in my thinking, is for users to try
    out misc free or trial versions and see which firewall works best for their
    own purposes. So I'd probably start with good, well-known sites where users
    do the ranking/reviews/ratings instead.
     
    Roger Overunder, Jul 9, 2008
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  3. Chipete

    Rick Guest

    say you

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    Rick, Jul 9, 2008
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  4. Chipete

    Roachbeastie Guest

    Hi,

    I worked around the issue by first looking at my ZoneAlarm Firewall logs,
    noting all blocked outgoing connections under destination and taking note of
    the ports at the and of the ip address (those are the numbers at the after
    the colon 65.54.191.188:xxx) Most critical for web surfing is port 80. There
    are many others that will impact other functions on the web, be it your email
    service, secured internet sites etc. So anything that does not work as it
    should is likely being blocked.

    Once you know them, go to the firewall tab, Internet Zone Security, click
    the custom radio button, next scroll down to Allow outgoing TCP ports, check
    it off and add the port numbers that you find in the logs seperated by a
    comma. Apply the changes and you should no longer have any problems.

    While setting the the trusted zone to medium security, unintalling Zone
    Alarm or other suggestions go, IMHO, they leave you too vunerable and I feel
    are risky options.

    Hope this helps!
     
    Roachbeastie, Jul 9, 2008
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  5. Chipete

    George 2 Guest

    I also had the same problem. After sending a long time with my ISP they
    advised about the MS security update. I remove the update and my internet
    sevice works again. Microsoft needs to make some adjustments to the parch.
     
    George 2, Jul 10, 2008
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  6. Could it be because it's a test of third-part firewalls that offer two-way
    protection?
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jul 10, 2008
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  7. Chipete

    Kayman Guest

    And a pretty ordinary one, so it seems.
    And which security company you are representing?
    What else you'd expect from advertisement-driven publications? You're
    blinded by all that hype and hogwash.
    For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic job
    at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an 'real-time'
    anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
    protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
    The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does not
    give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement lots
    of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be monitored.
    Instead following advertisement-driven magazines why don't you try to
    educate yourself and become a more knowledgeable Security Expert. You're
    are free and urged to contact Jesper M. Johansson directly, he also hangs
    out MSFT newsgroups.

    PFW Criticism.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_firewall#Criticisms

    "Personal Firewalls" are mostly snake-oil.
    http://www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html

    Why your firewall sucks.
    http://tooleaky.zensoft.com/
    "But I quickly realized the truth: The added protection provided by
    outbound filtering is entirely illusory."

    At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
    http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx

    Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2006/05/SecurityMyths/default.aspx
    Scroll down to:
    "Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be Safe."

    Exploring the windows Firewall.
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
    "Outbound protection is security theater¡Xit¡¦s a gimmick that only gives the
    impression of improving your security without doing anything that actually
    does improve your security."

    Approximately 800 vulnerabilities discovered in antivirus products
    http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1445
     
    Kayman, Jul 10, 2008
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  8. Chipete

    Kayman Guest

    Do yourself a favor and educate yourself prior posting embarrassing
    messages.
     
    Kayman, Jul 10, 2008
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  9. Chipete

    bulabula Guest

    I had the same problem. Unistalled the update and now it works fine.
    typical microsoft half measures
     
    bulabula, Jul 10, 2008
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  10. ... and what hole exactly does ZoneAlarm plug?

    Harry.
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], Jul 10, 2008
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  11. You do now ... several in fact.

    Come to think of it, I don't know any expert who /doesn't/ use Windows firewall,
    except in specialist situations where additional functionality is necessary.

    Harry.
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], Jul 10, 2008
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  12. How's that, exactly? What precisely do you think these third-party snake-oil
    products do that Windows firewall doesn't?

    Harry.
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], Jul 10, 2008
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  13. Microsoft can't fix it; the bug is in ZA. No doubt ZA will issue a fix in due
    course.

    Harry.
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], Jul 10, 2008
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  14. Chipete

    geester Guest

    Yes email and internet blocked on my PC, this is rediculous!
     
    geester, Jul 10, 2008
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  15. Chipete

    Marcello Guest

    Hey guys,
    also here.. i mange a dozen of PC and, yesterday, every PC with KB951748
    lost internet connection... today, after removing it, it's ok!
    (do you think it's a conflict with Zone alarm (free)?)
     
    Marcello, Jul 10, 2008
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  16. Chipete

    George Guest

    ZoneAlarm has just emailed saying it has a permanent solution that it will
    release in a few days. In the meantime suggests KB951748 is uninstalled and
    not reinstalled until ZA update is installed.

    Thank you ZoneAlarm. Would MS be that fast in providing solutions?
     
    George, Jul 10, 2008
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  17. you would have thought microsoft would have checked to see if any update
    would cause a problem before they put them on the chritical list.
     
    iamalittledevil2003, Jul 10, 2008
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  18. Chipete

    Kayman Guest

    What for? For providing a horribly broken software to their uninformed
    users?
    It's not MSFT's responsibility providing solutions for broken 3rd party
    software.
     
    Kayman, Jul 10, 2008
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  19. Chipete

    Kayman Guest

    You would have thought ZA would have checked their software to see if it is
    properly coded prior releasing it to their uninformed users.
    Rest assured that ZA was fully aware of the 'Patch Tuesday' security
    updates but chose to do nothing about it.
    Best solution:
    http://zonealarm.donhoover.net/uninstall.html
     
    Kayman, Jul 10, 2008
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  20. Chipete

    George Guest

    Go Kayman. Is that a chip on your shoulder or do you just believe that MS is
    God and can do no wrong?

    Your attitude toward third party vendors only compounds the anger people
    feel when their perfectly operating PCs are totally stuffed up by MS updates.

    A little tact and diplomacy may make the great "uniformed" slightly more
    sympathetic to the great way MS treats its customers.

    Cheers mate. Have a cup of tea and a good lie down.
     
    George, Jul 10, 2008
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