Problem with KB951748 XP Update

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by Chipete, Jul 8, 2008.

  1. Chipete

    sparks68 Guest

    How can I stop KB951748 repeatedly installing itself? Uninstalling manually
    is a pain. Its killing my ZoneAlarmpro that has worked pefectly till now, and
    losing my net access and emails, and keeps reinstalling itself when I'm not
    looking!
    Many thanks for info.
     
    sparks68, Jul 10, 2008
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  2. Chipete

    sparks68 Guest


    This link doesn't work!
     
    sparks68, Jul 10, 2008
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  3. Chipete

    Kayman Guest

    Two chips, one on each side actually; Enables me to walk straight. In this
    particular case the manufacturer of this 3rd party application is most
    definitely wrong.
    Which vendor are you representing? Can't you handle the truth?
    I knew about KB951748 prior its release on 'Patch Tuesday' (an information
    which is easily obtainable if one is interested). Rest assured ZA were well
    aware of this security patch also but chose to ignore it.
    George, go and complain to ZA!
    And what is that supposed to mean? Did MSFT request you or anybody else to
    install this application?
    I can't help if the facts are hurting. MSFT has nothing to do with this
    issue [PERIOD]!
    George, go and direct your frustration to ZA.
    Now that is good advice, I am cracking a can right now.

    Hooroo
     
    Kayman, Jul 10, 2008
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  4. Chipete

    Kayman Guest

    On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:46:00 -0700, sparks68 wrote:

    ZA never worked 'perfectly'! It's an illusion and gives the user a warm &
    fuzzy (secure) feeling - don't fall for it!

    Use this:
    http://zonealarm.donhoover.net/uninstall.html

    Then, in your OS activate the in-build f/w application; You'll be glad you
    did!
     
    Kayman, Jul 10, 2008
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  5. Chipete

    Marc Guest

    Microsoft should remove this update off their critical list....until they
    can fix the update to work with Zone alarm
     
    Marc, Jul 10, 2008
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  6. Chipete

    Kayman Guest

    You are completely out of line. It is ZA, the maker of this 3rd party
    application, who is at fault! They were well aware of this issue prior the
    release of KB951748. Do yourself a favor and uninstall this horribly broken
    thing.
    FYI:
    http://securosis.com/2008/07/08/dan...ue-in-dns-massive-multivendor-patch-released/

     
    Kayman, Jul 10, 2008
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  7. Chipete

    FuRoSh Guest

    WHat leads you to beleive this was an issue with ZA? Only because
    Microsoft didn't apparently affect any other firewalls???

    I put the blame on the lack of QA from the "company" that released the
    patch! So if I have various 3rd-party software on my "windows"
    machine, it's there responsibility to figure out if they can play well
    with my "fix"??? Really wow that is so lame...

    Some software companies get bought out or are no longer in business,
    which does indicate EOL on their products but for general software
    release the party responsible for releasing the "fix" has a
    responsiblity to test, test, test aka QA their so called fixes.

    Let's just say you run a medical practice, stock trader, or some other
    financial programs and you need to get their blessing whenever MSFT
    will be releasing a fix????
    Msft can't test all the 3rd party software in available but I can
    assure you they have their QA test beds setup which run most of not
    all the "security" apps on them, unfortunately they probably rushed
    this one out the door...
     
    FuRoSh, Jul 10, 2008
    #87
  8. Third-party firewalls need to be compatible with the OS, not the other way
    around.

    Checkpoint was fully aware of the vulnerability addressed by KB915748 (which
    didn't cause the same problem in Comodo or Online Armor firewalls).
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jul 10, 2008
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  9. Chipete

    MSUser100 Guest

    ZA just released an updated Version of the Firewall:
    Ver 7.0.483.000

    It solves the problem.

    Congratulations for their responsibility and quick response.
     
    MSUser100, Jul 10, 2008
    #89
  10. Perhaps this will give you some idea of why Microsoft don't test monthly updates
    with every piece of third party software:

    <http://secunia.com/product/>

    Harry.
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], Jul 10, 2008
    #91
  11. Seriously, the bug was in Zone Alarm's software, only they can fix it. That's
    not a chip, it's a fact.

    Harry.
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], Jul 10, 2008
    #92
  12. Chipete

    Kayman Guest

    <snip drivel>

    Do your homework before mouthing off!

    http://securosis.com/2008/07/08/dan...ue-in-dns-massive-multivendor-patch-released/

     
    Kayman, Jul 11, 2008
    #93
  13. Chipete

    Kayman Guest

    Responsibilty?? Quick response?? Ha, you've got to be kidding!
    ZA's ignorance is inexcusable, their arrogance is shameful - UNINSTALL this
    horribly broken software and use the WinXP or Vista in-build application!

    http://securosis.com/2008/07/08/dan...ue-in-dns-massive-multivendor-patch-released/

     
    Kayman, Jul 11, 2008
    #94
  14. Chipete

    Bert Guest

    I have an ASUS Wlan card 138G v2 together with the ASUS Control Center v
    2.3.7.0 and that did not work anymore after this update. Uninstalling the
    updated fixed it but I found that out only after trying all kinds of other
    things... :(
     
    Bert, Jul 11, 2008
    #95
  15. Chipete

    Kayman Guest

    Uninstalling KB951748 is definitely *not* right course of action.
     
    Kayman, Jul 12, 2008
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  16. Chipete

    Rick Guest

    I believe that you are incorrect. The proper procedure is to un install
    the offending update determine what it is interfering with get the
    appropriate update and reinstall the update. It seems to me that no
    problems will occur following this sequence. There is no evidence that
    anyone has availed themselves to exploiting the DNS hole so in the short
    term un installing it should pose no problem.

    --

    Rick
    Fargo, ND
    N 46°53'251"
    W 096°48'279"

    Remember the USS Liberty
    http://www.ussliberty.org/
     
    Rick, Jul 12, 2008
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  17. Chipete

    Kayman Guest

    The update in question did/does not cause any 'offense'. On the contrary,
    it provides vital security.
    ZA *is/was* the culprit which caused the 'offensive' behavior.
    Google is your friend :)
     
    Kayman, Jul 13, 2008
    #98
  18. Chipete

    KymY Guest

    KB951748 has been a huge problem for ISPs (inc. Telstra Bigpond) and Zone
    Alarm users down here - switchboards snowed-under

    I've been off-line for a week and trying to find the cause has taken hours -
    till the Bigpond operator gave me a fix after an hour on hold

    Please Microsoft - fix this giant xxxx-up NOW !

    Kym Yeoward
    Alice Springs NT
     
    KymY, Jul 13, 2008
    #99
  19. PA Bear [MS MVP], Jul 13, 2008
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