Question for Chris Lanier [MVP]

Discussion in 'Windows Media Player' started by Lee, Oct 6, 2004.

  1. Lee

    Lee Guest

    Why does media 10 complain that a codec is missing when in fact it doesn't
    seem to be missing? (WMP10, DirectX 9.0c, XP SP2)

    How many others besides me get an error code from 10 about, say, missing an
    avi codec, yet 9 on the same computer previously played the same files fine?
    Doesn't that prove that the correct codec is actually present?

    You often point us to your article suggesting to use GSpot. But GSpot says
    it can't determine the code; yet the same file (off a NAS) works fine on
    another machine. So the file must be good, and both GSpot and WMP10 must be
    wrong; perhaps they are using some common code somewhere else that is bad.
    Could it be it is not a codec issue at all?
     
    Lee, Oct 6, 2004
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  2. Lee

    zachd [ms] Guest

    ? Different codecs behave extremely differently. You would *have* to
    identify the codec if you wanted any type of intelligent response back. =\

    -Zach
    --
    (speaking for myself and doing this in my free time)
    See http://www.zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    Following up to your post with the resolution is good netiquette.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    Windows Media Player 10.
     
    zachd [ms], Oct 7, 2004
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  3. Lee

    Lee Guest

    I think the world deserves an explanation why WMP 10 won't play the same
    files under the same codec in the same manner that WMP 9 played them.

    This applies to a lot of codecs, not just one.
     
    Lee, Oct 8, 2004
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  4. Considering this question is addressed to me, I think the rest of the group
    deserves an explanation of your full problem. If you don't wish to provide
    it, then you don't deserve anything, sorry. Zach is correct. Do you know
    how many combo's you are asking people to pick through? One must know the
    codec, what version of the decoder you have installed, how many other
    decoders you have that can decode that same media, and so on.

    "This applies to a lot of codec's, not just one." <-Your right! Knowing
    that.....You should explain your problem, no?
     
    Chris Lanier [MVP], Oct 8, 2004
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  5. Lee

    Lee Guest

    Well, I appreciate your information and the large amount of time you spend
    helping people. Both of you agree that the involved CODEC must be known
    before it can be explained whether or not the requirements have changed, and
    if so, what they are. I think you are confirming there have been changes, but
    that different requirements were made for different CODECs.

    One affected codec might be YU51, but I haven't verified whether I heard it
    correctly, not getting it in writing.

    Unfortunately, many of the people asking why prior versions play files that
    WMP 10 doesn't, don't know about CODEC's, or at the least don't have the
    resources to find out specific ones involved. All they see is that the "new"
    WMP is "doesn't work the same".

    Until I have an elementary understanding of the requirements or design
    issues, I'm resigned to advise people to continue using the prior version;
    that either WMP 10 has some serious errors regarding playback, or possibly
    the designers are intentionally blackballing some "codecs".
     
    Lee, Oct 11, 2004
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  6. Lee

    zachd [ms] Guest

    .........
    If there's a specific problem or a specific file that shows this problem, it
    would be to the benefit of all to indicate the file or codec or provide a
    link to a sample that demonstrates the issue.
    Vague hand-wavey generalities like this just are not useful and stymie
    attempts to figure out and solve problems where they exist.
    If you've GOT a problem, please POINT out what the problem is. Otherwise,
    there's nothing anybody in the world can do to help you out here. The
    analogy would be going to the doctor and saying "it hurts" and then stopping
    there and refusing to answer any further questions. It's frustrating to
    anybody that actually makes a good faith effort to help you (such as Chris
    and myself) and it's especially frustrating to someone like me who tries to
    keep track of potential issues. If you have an issue, I prefer to know
    about it if possible. =\

    -Zach
    --
    (speaking for myself and doing this in my free time)
    See http://www.zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    Following up to your post with the resolution is good netiquette.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    Now Playing: "One Plus One is One" by "Badly Drawn Boy" in Windows Media
    Player 10.
     
    zachd [ms], Oct 13, 2004
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  7. Lee

    Lee Guest

    OK, here is what I learned since these posts - so you don't have to read the
    thread, the issue is that an AVI plays well with WMP9 but not WMP10, getting
    the infamous "no codec" error message. The question was why, philosophically,
    if WMP9 can play a file, couldn't WMP10 also play it, because the codec is
    obviously resident on the machine.

    1. The AVI files that play well with WMP9 but don't work with WMP10 use a
    four CC of "iv50".

    2. Someone told me that Microsoft intentionally won't let that CODEC play,
    even though it is on the machine.

    Do you guys know anything about this?

    Thanks ...

    Lee
     
    Lee, Nov 1, 2004
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