Quoting with ">", how?

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Dr. Wolfgang Hintze, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. Hello,

    I'm using Windows LiveMail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308).

    The question:

    I'd like to quote incoming text automatically in my reply, using ">" like
    this
    > 1st line of incoming text
    > 2nd line of incoming text

    My reply.

    How can I configure my LiveMail to do this?

    Thanks in advance.

    Wolfgang
     
    Dr. Wolfgang Hintze, Mar 31, 2014
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  2. Dr. Wolfgang Hintze

    Good Guy Guest

    On 31/03/2014 21:11, Dr. Wolfgang Hintze wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > I'm using Windows LiveMail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308).
    >
    > The question:
    >
    > I'd like to quote incoming text automatically in my reply, using ">"
    > like this
    >> 1st line of incoming text
    >> 2nd line of incoming text

    > My reply.
    >
    > How can I configure my LiveMail to do this?
    >
    > Thanks in advance.
    >
    > Wolfgang



    You can't because Microsoft has removed that facility from version 15
    onwards. Depending on your Windows version you can download and install
    version: 14.0.8117.0427 which still has the quote facility.

    <http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-all.exe>

    Good luck.
     
    Good Guy, Mar 31, 2014
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    VanguardLH Guest

    Wolfgang Hintze wrote:

    > I'm using Windows LiveMail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308). I'd
    > like to quote incoming text automatically in my reply, using ">" like
    > this
    >> 1st line of incoming text
    >> 2nd line of incoming text

    > My reply.
    >
    > How can I configure my LiveMail to do this?


    You can't in WLM. Microsoft broke quoting in version 15. You'll have
    to the quoting yourself (i.e., manually edit the quoted content) so you
    should also trim the quoted content to provide sufficient context for
    your reply.

    To fix a myriad of defect in Outlook Express, an author wrote the
    OE-QuoteFix program. It runs as an extension in OE, a feature Microsoft
    introduced in OE and then discontinued but the specs are out there
    somewhere yet there is some flakiness to the interface and why Microsoft
    dropped it. Alas, the author never wrote a proxy (I don't know if WLM
    supports extensibility) to use with WLM or with any other NNTP client.
    There is a workaround by using AutoHotkey and a script you define in it
    that will upon command do the formatting of quoted content. It requires
    you to instigate the Autohotkey script so it is a manual operation you
    have to remember to do before sending. The guy that came up with the
    workaround calls the setup "WLM-Quotefix" despite it really isn't a
    clone of OE-Quotefix. See http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/.

    Or you can move to a more capable NNTP client aka newsreader since WLM
    is effectively also a discontinued product.
     
    VanguardLH, Apr 1, 2014
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    ...winston Guest

    Dr. Wolfgang Hintze wrote, On 3/31/2014 4:11 PM:
    > Hello,
    >
    > I'm using Windows LiveMail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308).
    >
    > The question:
    >
    > I'd like to quote incoming text automatically in my reply, using ">"
    > like this
    >> 1st line of incoming text
    >> 2nd line of incoming text

    > My reply.
    >
    > How can I configure my LiveMail to do this?
    >
    > Thanks in advance.
    >
    > Wolfgang



    The quoting ability was rendered non-functional when the last 2011 beta
    version was released. For RTM the option was entirely removed rather
    than fix it. Removing the feature provided the ability for one common
    support response - design intent, won't consider thereafter.

    Since WLM is first and foremost designed for use with a MSFT Account
    (always was) and synchronization with Hotmail type accounts (Hotmail,
    Live, MSn and now Outlook.com) for mail, contacts, and calendar...the
    ">" option for mail was retained and still, but only available, in the
    web UI (Hotmail.com aka Outlook.com)


    --
    ...winston
    msft mvp consumer apps
     
    ...winston, Apr 1, 2014
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  5. Dr. Wolfgang Hintze

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Wolfgang.

    Yes, we OE/WLM diehards have been griping about the missing ability to
    properly quote Replies for a few years now. The newest versions of WLM have
    several deficiencies, but I (and several others) still use it because it is
    the closest available product to Good Old OE. ;^}

    When quoting a multi-line paragraph, remove all the internal line-ends and
    then insert a single ">" before the first character of the paragraph. When
    WLM reformats the quoted text, it will add ">" before each line. This is
    not a perfect solution, but it's better than nothing.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
    Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3522.0110) in Win8.1 Pro with Media
    Center


    "Dr. Wolfgang Hintze" wrote in message
    news:...

    Hello,

    I'm using Windows LiveMail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308).

    The question:

    I'd like to quote incoming text automatically in my reply, using ">" like
    this
    > 1st line of incoming text
    > 2nd line of incoming text

    My reply.

    How can I configure my LiveMail to do this?

    Thanks in advance.

    Wolfgang
     
    R. C. White, Apr 1, 2014
    #5
  6. Thanks to all of you here for your helpful comments.

    Best regards,
    Wolfgang



    "Dr. Wolfgang Hintze" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:...

    Hello,

    I'm using Windows LiveMail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308).

    The question:

    I'd like to quote incoming text automatically in my reply, using ">" like
    this
    > 1st line of incoming text
    > 2nd line of incoming text

    My reply.

    How can I configure my LiveMail to do this?

    Thanks in advance.

    Wolfgang
     
    Dr. Wolfgang Hintze, Apr 3, 2014
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    skyrail Guest

    "Dr. Wolfgang Hintze" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
    ...
    >
    >Thanks to all of you here for your helpful comments.
    >
    >Best regards,
    >Wolfgang
    >
    >
    >
    >"Dr. Wolfgang Hintze" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    >news:...
    >
    >Hello,
    >
    >I'm using Windows LiveMail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308).
    >
    >The question:
    >
    >I'd like to quote incoming text automatically in my reply, using ">" like
    >this
    >> 1st line of incoming text
    >> 2nd line of incoming text

    >My reply.
    >
    >How can I configure my LiveMail to do this?
    >
    >Thanks in advance.
    >
    >Wolfgang
    >


    Just found a fix here: WLM QuoteFix
    http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/

    I have been searching for a long time until today to solve it.
    I guess it's working when replying to your message.

    Alternatively, before I read this page, I copied and paste the whole message
    in ultraedit, then Alt-c, enter > at begining of all lines, alt-C again,
    then select all, copy and paste in wlm.
    This method is easy but have too much manipulation.
    You could consider writing a vbs script and link to a special key for this
    purpose.

    Best regards
     
    skyrail, Apr 11, 2014
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    VanguardLH Guest

    skyrail wrote:

    > Just found a fix here: WLM QuoteFix


    Oh, you "just" found this solution that was mentioned 11 days ago in
    this discussion?
     
    VanguardLH, Apr 11, 2014
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  9. Dr. Wolfgang Hintze

    ...winston Guest

    VanguardLH wrote, On 4/11/2014 1:02 PM:
    > skyrail wrote:
    >
    >> Just found a fix here: WLM QuoteFix

    >
    > Oh, you "just" found this solution that was mentioned 11 days ago in
    > this discussion?
    >


    That's reasonably soon. Some replies show up 2-3 yrs later. :)



    --
    ...winston
    msft mvp consumer apps
     
    ...winston, Apr 12, 2014
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    VanguardLH Guest

    ....winston wrote:

    > VanguardLH wrote, On 4/11/2014 1:02 PM:
    >> skyrail wrote:
    >>
    >>> Just found a fix here: WLM QuoteFix

    >>
    >> Oh, you "just" found this solution that was mentioned 11 days ago in
    >> this discussion?
    >>

    >
    > That's reasonably soon. Some replies show up 2-3 yrs later. :)


    Sometimes they're so late that the NNTP server's retention has already
    expired the parent article so I can only see what the respondent quoted.
    In such cases, my reply is something like "You thought the OP was still
    waiting for a response. Picture a skeleton slumped over a keyboard."
     
    VanguardLH, Apr 13, 2014
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