Radical Overhaul

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by tonybb, Feb 10, 2005.

  1. tonybb

    tonybb Guest

    Let's face it, Windows Update with XP is pretty flaky, and the
    Troubleshooting pages are out of date - they just repeat stuff about proxies
    and firewalls etc. ad nauseum without addressing the bugs that we encounter.

    It's time for a radical overhaul of Windows Update, and importantly, the
    troubleshooting pages. I'd guess it needs at least five times the resource
    currently devoted to it within Microsoft.
    tonybb, Feb 10, 2005
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  2. I never have problems with Windows Update..
    Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\), Feb 10, 2005
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  3. tonybb

    JR Guest

    I have some machines that have nothing but trouble with update. There must
    certainly be some bugs that only show up on certain installations. I have
    other machines that work fine. This needs some looking into at MS and some
    REAL answers. I believe tonybb is correct is saying the troubleshooting
    pages are quite out of date.
    JR, Feb 11, 2005
  4. Some of the REAL answers remain with the end user who sometimes makes
    changes without realising the full potential of what is being done..
    Microsoft can't be held responsible for every configuration on every

    Mike Hall
    MVP - Windows Shell/user

    Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\), Feb 11, 2005
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    Pam Guest

    Well, I am happy for everyone who is NOT experiencing problems with this last
    update. This is the very first time I have every had any problems with them.
    Perhaps you will remain among the fortunate few Mike and not have to go
    through the problems the rest of us are.
    Pam, Feb 11, 2005
  6. There often is no responsibility.
    Considering the total # of Windows XP computers in the world.
    And that no 2 are identical.
    It is amazing updates, drivers, programs etc can be made to function
    appropriately on the different computers.
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Feb 11, 2005
  7. Jupiter

    I would agree with you entirely, but I did use the word 'some'.. there are
    more than a few regular posters in these newsgroups who insist on messing,
    tweaking and generally worrying about little things that should be left well
    alone.. some would rather believe those that spread myths and rumours,
    acting on shaky advice.. some just won't listen at all..

    Of all the people that I support or ever have supported, those who leave
    stuff alone if it is not broken are the ones that have the most trouble free
    computing experience.. for the others, it is a constant battle..

    And for those in the post who are unhappy with WU, I understand that there
    is a version 6 in the pipeline.. maybe this will address some of your
    complaints.. but remember this.. if it works for the majority, then others
    should be prepared to take some of the responsibility maybe for when it

    I don't believe in luck..

    Mike Hall
    MVP - Windows Shell/user

    Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\), Feb 11, 2005
  8. Mike;
    From What I understand the new version will update more than just Windows.
    But I am sure it will not update 3rd party programs as I have seen suggested
    by at least one poster.

    I also do not believe in luck.
    Those that believe in luck become dependant on luck and thus set themselves
    up to fail.
    Protecting a computer takes time and diligence...and no luck.
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Feb 11, 2005
  9. Let's hope that it doesn't.. MS takes enough hits updating 3rd party drivers
    supplied by the 3rd parties..

    For what it's worth, I always let WU do the NIC and audio drivers on both
    home computers, and so far, only one crapped out.. it was an updated driver
    for an Intel 536P modem.. I rolled back, installed the driver from the Intel
    site and........... it crapped out.. reduced modem speed to that of a
    1200baud.. everything else has been ok.. I guess that I have just
    been................... um............. errrrr............. patient and
    diligent (no luck required)..

    Mike Hall
    MVP - Windows Shell/user

    Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\), Feb 11, 2005
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    mammawolf Guest

    I'm here trying to figure why my modem ceased to function after installing
    the latest updates (until I "restored " to before the updates). I have never
    had problem with updates before. It is BITS related? (excuse my ignorance)
    mammawolf, Feb 11, 2005
  11. Modem issues would not be BITS related.
    Did you go to the modem manufacturers website and get the latest drivers for
    your operating system?
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Feb 12, 2005
  12. tonybb

    tonybb Guest

    Yeah Mike, blame it on the User - what a very professional response

    Lets all give Mike a hearty round of applause for never having any problems.

    Tell me, what does MVP stand for?
    tonybb, Feb 15, 2005
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